Forum rules update

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Howdy everyone. The rules to the forum have been updated. The new rules are given below, and are available in the rules thread in the Announcements category.

5. No account hopping to evade suspension.

You are personally responsible for your conduct on the forums. If you create a new account to continue posting because another account was suspended, any forum accounts involved wil be permanently suspended.

First offense minimum: Permanent suspension

6. No proxy posting.

Posting on behalf of a suspended user is not allowed.

First offense minimum: Permanent suspension

Common sense stuff, but it has become an issue recently, so here we have it.

- Ash
So is Atro history now? Anybody know? :eek:

So is Atro history now? Anybody know? :eek:


I certainly hope not. It will be a much sadder place without him. I'll see if I can find out.

First offense minimum: Permanent suspension




I just have one question i'd like defined. If thats the minimum whats the maximum?
Sounds a bit excessive, but ok.

A question, what about posting for people who have said goodbye (like some posters have done) or otherwise quoting posters from other forums or the like, who may no longer be here?


First offense minimum: Permanent suspension




I just have one question i'd like defined. If thats the minimum whats the maximum?


They take your liver.
Greetings,




First offense minimum: Permanent suspension




I just have one question i'd like defined. If thats the minimum whats the maximum?


They take your liver.



Muahahahhahaha ! Oh well, looks like we have seen the last of Atro.

ash has probably got his "serious" face on, so everybody behave like normal... Just do as nothing ever happened.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil
It's pretty common sense stuff really, Ash shouldn't even need to post things like this.

It's pretty common sense stuff really, Ash shouldn't even need to post things like this.


Yes, but this is Atrophical we're talking about... God love him!
If the MINIMUM first offense is a perma ban then I would say this is the very serious face. And it was most likely Atro.
Bwah ha ha.

Bwah ha ha.



Sadly, its only a matter of time :(

Anyone running a book? :D
My next ban will be my last, so sayeth AshNC.

Just a matter of time? Yes.
In a hurry to get there? No.

Please name those rules the "Anti-Atrophical" rules.
wooot.. welcome back Atro... we'll just all have to team up and keep you in line ;)
Greetings,



Please name those rules the "Anti-Atrophical" rules.



I'll gladly second that motion.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil
I had a dream...


I had a dream where these forums were moderately using censorhsip.
It only is my opinion but I do feel the moderators should need to moderate themselves and address the issues rather than blame the posters.

(This will be my last post on the subject - Tho I truly have deep feelings about it but I don't want to cross the line)
Yeah, wouldn't wanna pull an Atro and get bwnned from the forums.
Greetings,


Yeah, wouldn't wanna pull an Atro and get bwnned from the forums.



Oh yeah, even got a nice ring to it.

Muahahhahahahahahhaha !

Carefull about pulling Atro's around here, the mods are FEIRCE.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil
whats a proxy?

Bwah ha ha.



WOOT! :)

Had me worried there, boy :p

whats a proxy?


From what i see its posting for somone who has quit or been banned or forum banned

whats a proxy?



It is like when your evil SO posts similar opinions while you're...erhm....unwelcome.

Bwah ha ha.


*wipes away tear and give manly hug*
Glad you're still here, you big lug!

Please keep in mind that this is a board solely dedicated to Lineage II - therefore, discussions having nothing to do with the game (for example, real world news/matters) will be removed. We would like to keep this board Lineage II specific, and therefore encourage you to participate in other message boards available on the Internet should you wish to participate in non-game related discussions. We welcome any topics on this board that directly relate to Lineage II.



This section of the forum rules is not being monitored enough, especially in the General Discussion section. There are threads that start that have absolutely nothing to do with L2 and are just a waste of reading for people coming to these boards looking for Lineage 2 information.

There are too many people coming on this board to goof on people, goof on NC and the game, and just generally goof off.


Please keep in mind that this is a board solely dedicated to Lineage II - therefore, discussions having nothing to do with the game (for example, real world news/matters) will be removed. We would like to keep this board Lineage II specific, and therefore encourage you to participate in other message boards available on the Internet should you wish to participate in non-game related discussions. We welcome any topics on this board that directly relate to Lineage II.



This section of the forum rules is not being monitored enough, especially in the General Discussion section. There are threads that start that have absolutely nothing to do with L2 and are just a waste of reading for people coming to these boards looking for Lineage 2 information.

There are too many people coming on this board to goof on people, goof on NC and the game, and just generally goof off.


:eek: :eek: :eek:
Greetings,



Please keep in mind that this is a board solely dedicated to Lineage II - therefore, discussions having nothing to do with the game (for example, real world news/matters) will be removed. We would like to keep this board Lineage II specific, and therefore encourage you to participate in other message boards available on the Internet should you wish to participate in non-game related discussions. We welcome any topics on this board that directly relate to Lineage II.



This section of the forum rules is not being monitored enough, especially in the General Discussion section. There are threads that start that have absolutely nothing to do with L2 and are just a waste of reading for people coming to these boards looking for Lineage 2 information.

There are too many people coming on this board to goof on people, goof on NC and the game, and just generally goof off.



OH NOES ! I guess I better go hang myself.

ROFL ! /autoban

Don't make me pull an Atro on you !

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil


Please keep in mind that this is a board solely dedicated to Lineage II - therefore, discussions having nothing to do with the game (for example, real world news/matters) will be removed. We would like to keep this board Lineage II specific, and therefore encourage you to participate in other message boards available on the Internet should you wish to participate in non-game related discussions. We welcome any topics on this board that directly relate to Lineage II.



This section of the forum rules is not being monitored enough, especially in the General Discussion section. There are threads that start that have absolutely nothing to do with L2 and are just a waste of reading for people coming to these boards looking for Lineage 2 information.

There are too many people coming on this board to goof on people, goof on NC and the game, and just generally goof off.



<~~Owned :eek:
Actually, there was no single motivation or test case for this update. It was one of those odd moments where it's not a concern for anyone, then multiple similar issues pop up all around the same time.

And while I agree that the consequences are extreme, there's really no way that this can be considered a "crime of passion." Many times people will say hurtful or offensive things on forums and click submit before they even think. When it comes to proxy posting or account hopping, that requires pre-meditation, and possibly even enlisting an accomplice.

In short, there is no other way to interpret this behavior as anything but a deliberate and willful attempt to thumb one's nose at the rules and regulations of the forums.

Another way it differs from other types of forum offenses is that there is no "sliding scale." When we say "No flaming," there isn't a list of each and every manner of flaming possible. Sadly, people are just too inventive when it comes to thinking of ways to be cruel to their fellow human beings. But with suspensions, it's a binary equation. Either you're active, or suspended. There's no room for interpretation, and there's no subjectivity.

And lastly, the consequence is as serious as it is as a deterrent. A significant portion of folks (but no, not all of them) account hop or proxy post in a deliberate attempt to play "Catch me if you can" with mods and admins, not because they've decided to change their ways and put an end to the habits that got them a suspension in the first place. We don't have time to for such shenanigans, and the penalty set for these offenses proves it.

Proxy posting is not a habit that people should get into, but at this point I will clarify that you'll only get the boomstick for doing so on behalf of a suspended user, and doing so in a public forum. I have no qualms with receiving private messages in this format (although it's impractical because the person could just reach me via the email system, and I won't discuss disciplinary issues when there's an unrelated intermediary involved).


Sounds a bit excessive, but ok.

A question, what about posting for people who have said goodbye (like some posters have done) or otherwise quoting posters from other forums or the like, who may no longer be here?



If you think there's something worth citing, and it just so happens to have been authored by someone who's been suspended from these forums, I suggest putting it into your own words. If you really, really just HAVE to quote it, include a URL to the source material. I'd like to see that it really was part of a seperate discussion in a seperate venue before showing up on these boards. But frankly, if I were to get even the slightest hint that this method was simply being used to facilitate proxy posting for bannees, it will be curtailed as well.

- Ash
Ok, that makes good sense, thanks for writing that out.


and there's no subjectivity



Í would guess the subjectivity lies in wether its actually a proxy post or not.

We don't have time to for such shenanigans.



What's the name of that restaurant you like to go to with all the goofy shot on the walls?
Not to make a moke of you Ash, but do you know the restriction level of "temporary suspension"? I know several people banned permanently for a single inappropriate message, in subsequently deleted threads. One of most intererting ban cases was the permanent suspension for a message "I fully agree with him" (something after really offensive post).
As a result - no post, no thread, no offensive message anymore, a lesson, but no access. The funny thing is - they are still playing the game, they still might be helpful for forum newbies or other players, but they have no choice but to stay away from game forums.
I don't want you to think my post is proxy postnig of some sort. What's is done is done. I don't want to state your or any other ban-hammer holder has made something beyond their right. But... I do really feel it's a bit too much of punichment for them. As you probably know, many posters never read forum rules judging their posts from the "general practice". And if someone by mistake makes proxy posting on this forum... he's banned permanently and has no way to join forums again, even knowing what was wrong and willing to obey forum rules in future.

I would like to ask you or whoever is in charge of forum policy to make proxy posting suspension a bit less frustating for people who don't know it. May be a month suspension in addition to private discussion with the banned person would be enough? Second try may be permanent, but first... Well... Even botters have their second chance from time to time.
shenanigans.?
aaaa good movie

but still dont know what proxy posting can u put it in simple speak?
A proxy is someone acting on behalf of another. When Atro was banned, Tinktinka posted replies on his behalf hence the affection name given to this new rule.

Tink was the proxy in this case.
o you mean a patsy?(if i spell it right)
Sorta, but a patsy is a person that is easily manipulated. Like I need a patsy to take the blame for that car I stole.
u stoled a car 0.o?
Stop winding us up you patsy :p
LOL no that was a 'for instance'. The simpsons did an episode about Homer being a patsy too come to think of it.
Hmm
In some cases, the people who are banned are so loyal to the game....that they start a new account.
Especially the ones who are banned for speaking about issues in game...

I have an idea who this post was really directed at. ;)

*nods and smiles*
:D
I had a dream...


I had a dream where these forums were moderately using censorhsip.
It only is my opinion but I do feel the moderators should need to moderate themselves and address the issues rather than blame the posters.

(This will be my last post on the subject - Tho I truly have deep feelings about it but I don't want to cross the line)

:eek:

The power of ressurection!
Back to the depths with you, thread. You're like eight years old. Please don't resurrect eight-year-old threads, folks. They're tired, let them rest.