Helms

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Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm" like they did on Evercrack.Not only would it look sick as hell and more realistic but it would save us from lookin at the same MUGS everyday...Hope everyone agrees.. :eek:
Would be nice. Id agree to it.
alot of people thing that a helmet will cover the head... not technically true... a helmet doesn't need to cover everything...

I want to see helmets....

anyone watch chronicles of narnia? first time i saw some of the warriors, i thought "Brig"... saw the helmets.. and ****, that kind of design would work great in l2...
lol i thought the same thing when i saw it judas :D


/signed

Hope everyone agrees.. :eek:


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I agree with SirElrohir because:

I disagree with helmets. Why? simple.

Right now we have for each race and gender a couple of 'mugs' to choose from and a few hairstyles to boot.

Put in the helmet. Everybody wears the same one. We would lose a lot of variation here.
Helms would look nice on male dwarfs or human male knights...But it wouldnt fit on most of female chars....try to imagine an archer wit a helm, would not fit in with a rest of armors. It's good how it is, besides were will be more head accessories on c4. So you can wear a crown if you're a Castle Lord and think of it as a helmet :)

Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm"



Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm"



Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm"



Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm"



Id like to SEE helms with a option to "hide helm"


Helms would look nice on male dwarfs or human male knights...But it wouldnt fit on most of female chars....try to imagine an archer wit a helm, would not fit in with a rest of armors. It's good how it is, besides were will be more head accessories on c4. So you can wear a crown if you're a Castle Lord and think of it as a helmet :)


People should stop thinking of helms as a big metal bucket over your head.
For example Avadon circlet would look like a nice pretty, that's right, circlet = crown like helmet.

Lineage 2 = pretty, so any hemets that would show would conform to that look, not look like a primitive medieval bucket over a knights head ok.

And ofcourse:

with a option to "hide helm"


So just turn it off if you feel you are looking at clone wars, however since if they would be implemented they would probably not cover much of the head, you wouldn't.

People should stop thinking of helms as a big metal bucket over your head.
For example Avadon circlet would look like a nice pretty, that's right, circlet = crown like helmet.



That would actually go along with the L2 storyline. If they made helmet types correspond with their names (like you suggested) I would like to see that. I'd /helmet on

For example Avadon circlet would look like a nice pretty


I don't want to look pretty. :(
Well maybe they could make a male version as well as a female version? Shouldn't be too hard considering armors have different versions no?

Well maybe they could make a male version as well as a female version? Shouldn't be too hard considering armors have different versions no?


Would it give me "helmet hair"??? :(
That I can't answer :p
/helmet on is not enough - I don't want others to see me with a helmet any more than I want to see it on my own screen. This would introduce sealing for A Grade helmets (necessary to conform with set looks), it would ruin individuality when they are put on (as pointed out earlier), and it is already stated by developers that the head accessories that are being pushed starting in C4 will take visual helmets' place.

Which is a good thing.

Seen the castle circlets? So ugly you could cry, right?

Imagine having to wear one (even if it's only visible to some) for practicality. I shudder at the thought. :(

PS: Search for the win!

/helmet on is not enough - I don't want others to see me with a helmet any more than I want to see it on my own screen. This would introduce sealing for A Grade helmets (necessary to conform with set looks), it would ruin individuality when they are put on (as pointed out earlier), and it is already stated by developers that the head accessories that are being pushed starting in C4 will take visual helmets' place.

Which is a good thing.

Seen the castle circlets? So ugly you could cry, right?

Imagine having to wear one (even if it's only visible to some) for practicality. I shudder at the thought. :(

PS: Search for the win!




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this simply doesn't make any sence . "it'll ruin (individuality)" ?

how the hell, we are all already clones.. we get roughly 3 faces to choose from, roughly on average 5 hair styles to choose from, roughly 4 hair colors, and that's it. That leaves very little for us to be unique with just our head. How can adding even simply another say (how many helmets out there? lets say 4 helmets for each grade, and there are 5 grades atm, 6 with S)..

so adding an additional 20-24 unique stickly HEAD related graphics will lower the "individuality" of the players... this is just terrible math..

Top it off, i think it would be the best idea to actually let us unseal helmets to robe/light/heavy stats and having the helmet change it's characteristics... Add that to the "head" count individuality factor. wow a whopping 72 additional variations!

We'll be able to look around now and see our friend ... say ALL Male Elves with Blonde hair and that ugly mug of a puppy face, and say that you could identify who was who if you couldn't see there robes/light armor/heavy. Reguardless, you through the helmet idea in, it'll make things a little more distingushible. Not to mention it'll make the game feel more complete...

We aren't talking **** silver buckets on our head, we talking helmets that actually suit the make of the species, the style of armor they are wearing it with. Not to mention it DOESN'T nessaryly have to cover all of the hair/ or face for that matter....

Take a gander around and do a search on Chronicals of Narnia and see if you can find the armor that looks like they are all wearing brig (similarely)... they are wearing helmets.. different races/species wearing the same set..... and look at how they designed them to fit the characters.... i wouldn't call it a prime example of exactly what NCSOFT should use... i'm saying, look at how they made it and worked with the looks of the characters.


Put in the helmet. Everybody wears the same one. We would lose a lot of variation here.



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Seen the castle circlets? So ugly you could cry, right?


Actually I love most of them O.o
They should definately include helmets into view as a Tank I want to be seen fully armored and tin canned like thats what I am. But if all races and more spcifically all classes had a different look to helms it need not be that bad. An Elven Archer wearing a Helm could have more a padded cap or headband look to it. Thing is there are lots of ways it could be done without being bad. Its just silly that now there are no options to see helms at all.
I think the best solution would be two options. First a client side option to force disabling the display of ALL helmets(for people who don't like it). Also have a checkbox next to your helmet that says "Show", which you could uncheck so nobody sees the helmet even if the option to is enabled.
A helmet has a good chance of covering central elements of your hair (it has to, as it would look bad with 90% of hairdos if it didn't make the majority of hair 'disappear' - anything but small accessories does).

Correction: The circlets themselves look good. Any character wearing them looks ******ed.
draw up a few concepts..... keep a few hair styles in mind and use a general say.... Heavy BW helmet in mind....

it works....

see when a DE fighter has long hair.. and puts on any breastplate or armor that doesn't mesh with the long hair, the hair is changed to work with the armor... (it's put into a pony tail)...

It can easily be done the same way.

Not to mention, i still see no valid reason for not having helmets around..... We one person says it's ******ed looking another says it'll look sweet.. frankly, i haven't seen any other reason why this would be bad.. specially if we are given the option to see the helmets...
I want to look complete, let me see my BW helmet ! make it have ear like things :p
This isnt a bad idea and alot of people want it, but its up to the korean developers and im sure they must have thought of a reason why they didnt want it.
You could also make jewelry a visible option too. Why do we have the rings, earrings, and necklace (other than mdef etc...)? Of course, I'm sure guy toons might not want to run around showing jewelry but I'd love to see it on my toons. It could also add to the customization of toons.
Bling Bling.
I dont like the fact my dude who is a macho gladiator has to wear two freaking rings two earrings (EWW!?) and a necklace i think tattoo's for male chars and jewelry for female chars for m def. Although it would be funny to see a fat old dwarf running about in full bling :cool:
Well obviously I meant this with a /toggle on off option :p

Another cool option would be to show tatoos.

I think Short would like pretty kickass running with full jewelry, tatoos, and her pink mask ;)
ugh i shudda at the thought.
Wha? I'm just thinking of things that are already in-game that could help us look different from each other. :(
I mean to say, i shudda at the thought of a gross orc lol. The idea is a great one.
If you want to see a "helmet"(not a bucket) on your head, choose female DE with hairstyle "F" (i think it was F, the last one) :P

If you want to see a "helmet"(not a bucket) on your head, choose female DE with hairstyle "F" (i think it was F, the last one) :P



you mean that kinda neato jewelery throughout the hair kinda of style.... that could be a possible form of "helmet" for robes....


If you want to see a "helmet"(not a bucket) on your head, choose female DE with hairstyle "F" (i think it was F, the last one) :P



you mean that kinda neato jewelery throughout the hair kinda of style.... that could be a possible form of "helmet" for robes....



Check out the Guild Wars "Helmets". The Elementalists have a small glowing, flaming etc stone that floats in front of their fore head.

Some of the Fighter helmets are really neat. The archers get a sort of kerchief that goes in front of their mouth.. sort of like the shadow.

Very neat and doesn't really obscure anything.
Hmmm...I'll have to go back and check it out. I think I still have my toon.....

see when a DE fighter has long hair.. and puts on any breastplate or armor that doesn't mesh with the long hair, the hair is changed to work with the armor... (it's put into a pony tail)...



And, can you guess just how happy the long-haired DEs are with this?

Right. Thought so.

ETA: Guildwars helmets and linked friendlists made me quit the game. The fighter helmets, as any 'helmet' (as opposed to headwear, even a fancy one) must make the hair disappear completely to avoid clipping issues.


see when a DE fighter has long hair.. and puts on any breastplate or armor that doesn't mesh with the long hair, the hair is changed to work with the armor... (it's put into a pony tail)...



you are quite touchy on your hair style?

I know several people.. including myself with the long hair.... But i love that fact that when wearing something that apparently doesn't suit the armor i'm wearing, where the hair looks like it's sticking through the armor, that it changes.

Why the hell you i be outraged that they made something look very good. Not to mention aloud us change, it frankly doesn't make any bloody sence, not to mention, it looks BETTER. I have long hair on all my characters, only those that use say a brig set, or whatever else that doesn't really work, that it's different.

More people like a change of hair styles, then they do ranting and raving that there hairstyle has changed FREELY and can be put back FREELY due to armor.

And like the option above, if you anything like Jet Li (NO TOUCHY THE HAIR), then fine, DISABLE showing of helmets for yourself.

And, can you guess just how happy the long-haired DEs are with this?

Right. Thought so.

ETA: Guildwars helmets and linked friendlists made me quit the game. The fighter helmets, as any 'helmet' (as opposed to headwear, even a fancy one) must make the hair disappear completely to avoid clipping issues.



ETA: Guildwars helmets and linked friendlists made me quit the game.



These things made you qute the game? You are a very complex woman Maline.



ETA: Guildwars helmets and linked friendlists made me quit the game.



i'd have to agree.....

I'm actually talking to several other friends, (women), about this and i'm getting the same responce from every one of them, they wouldn't quit a game over a helmet thing. Actually, all of them would like to see it.
These things made you qute the game? You are a very complex woman Maline.

don't want helms. However I would like to see armor dyes. Yes dyes that can alter the color appearence of armors. This would make things a bit more unique.
Blue wolf would have to be renamed to greenwolf or what ever O.o
or its original name in the chronical one book.
I dont see a problem if u have an OPTION to TURN IT OFF, people comon dont be so selfish in the other hand if we would have helms already and some one wanted the option to SHOW/HIDE helm would u disagree to that too or would u /sign Hmmm figures some people just dont care for others taste even if they can go to OPTIONS/TURN OFF HELMS (CHECK MARKED) my 2 cents people im not planing to make a riot now