Pets: The Soulless

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Phantom Summoner is the only summoning class that has a summon that drains mana. OK, for whatever reason this was deemed necessary.
However, while under the effect of the mana drain curse my toon cries out constantly while being "bled" mana.
This is unimaginably annoying, and in my ever so humble opinion completely unnecessary.
Transfer Pain also continously consumes mana when toggled on, and my character is nice and quiet about it.
In the name of everything that is holy and just, PLEASE fix this insanely annoying curse.

Respectfully,

Damara


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Also, I'd like to respectfully suggest a horrific and agonizing death to whomever decided that animation should be in place.

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Ahahahaha, Im not here to help, just to say go ES woo woo.
While i agree that the curse is pointless and irritating. However it's not inteded to be used solo, that's why in C4 it only drains 10% XP.
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While i agree that the curse is pointless and irritating. However it's not inteded to be used solo, that's why in C4 it only drains 10% XP.


You know, I hate this sould even more than summoners.
By the way, I hate Shadow sound as well.

While i agree that the curse is pointless and irritating. However it's not inteded to be used solo, that's why in C4 it only drains 10% XP.



Solo, group, either way I want to tear my ears out when the Soulless is summoned.

Damara
Servitors - Making Their Masters Turn Off Effect Sounds Since Prelude (TM).

Making servitor idle sounds much softer or removing them, fixing the curse (animation and sound <3), and seeing to it that ponies don't go 'tap tap tap' in the water would be ever so sweet.

Hey, and while we're at that - NEON PINK?!?.
What does it sound like?
oh I agree... that's awful.

What does it sound like?

It sounds and is animated like a never-ending bleed effect. It's extremely irritating.

Fortunately, it's on a summon that's not terribly handy anyway, so I've resolved this issue by never bringing it out ;)
same as bleed, plus the animation. So every couple second my cahracter makes the little sissy whine sound. Nothing compared to the unicorns though. I'd kill someone if they made me listen to that.
In C4, it has more attack power than the shadow, and, and this is the important part I guess, it has a lowered experience penalty (10%).

Merrow and Kai will effortless become the 'better choice'... while... the soulless.... will still make you bleed. :p

In C4, it has more attack power than the shadow

...now I'm going to have to summon it once to check the difference. Thanks a lot :mad:
What level do you want to see the stats at?

I bothered to screenshot every level of Shadow/Soulless/Nightshade on the PTS for my personal amusement. Of course I won't post all of them (no <3 for private servers), but if you want to know a specific one...
Ooo, that way I can check from work. If you could post/PM, say, 40/60/75 that would summarize the progression nicely :)
I would appreciate it as well, i didn't bother to level up soulless on the PTS.

I would appreciate it as well, i didn't bother to level up soulless on the PTS.

I think it's a trend.
nah soulless is my offical raid summon, in C4 i'm probably gonna use soullessfor normal hunting and nightshade for group PVP. soulless is especially rockin' for raids with minions.
I didn't save the message. If you still have it, could you forward it bekkar?
What I don't get with this entire thing thoght, Why do Phantom summoner get a debuff with tehre AoE summon and not the 2 other summoner classes??? Whatm ake there summon so special?

Can anyone fill me in on that... as trully I don't get it, I think it's very unfair.

And another ennoying thig about this you can't put auto spam of SPS or BSPS on it in C4 becose every 2 min it going to cast that debuff and yes it's hte summon who cast it, and it's an magic skill so it will ofcorse is one SPS/BSPS up doing so.....

But hten yet again why does PS have an debuff to use there AoE summon.....

I didn't save the message. If you still have it, could you forward it bekkar?

Done.

What I don't get with this entire thing thoght, Why do Phantom summoner get a debuff with tehre AoE summon and not the 2 other summoner classes??? Whatm ake there summon so special?

Can anyone fill me in on that... as trully I don't get it, I think it's very unfair.

Umm...I think you're getting your servitors mixed up. The one with the debuff is the Nightshade, which is the equivalent of the Seraphim--it's the "party trick" summon, not the AoE summon. The Nightshade gets debuffs instead of the party-buffs the other two "party trick" summons get. And, while we're on that topic, buffs are usually much more useful than debuffs, so that's seriously not something to be getting jealous over.
The AoE summon is the Soulless, which has a Poison Cloud attack (seriously weak) and a Corpse Burst attack (situational at best).

Or are we not talking about the same thing?



Or are we not talking about the same thing?



He's asking a very valid question, why is it that the Phantom Summoner get's a debuff (mana drain) to use the Soulless when no other summoner class does.
It's not like the AOE skills it has are all that great, definitely not nice enough to deserve the mana drain curse.

Damara

He's asking a very valid question, why is it that the Phantom Summoner get's a debuff (mana drain) to use the Soulless when no other summoner class does.
It's not like the AOE skills it has are all that great, definitely not nice enough to deserve the mana drain curse.

Ah, so it was "why do Phantom Summoners get debuffed while using their AoE summon", I found "Why do Phantom summoner get a debuff with tehre AoE summon" rather opaque.

No good reason.
I think PS were designed to have mana mangement problems, actually--no recharge, MP debuff on one summon...but I'm just speculating, and I have no idea why they would design it that way. Of course, it merely makes PS use fewer spells than the other two, so it limits options rather than having any tangible effect within a playstyle.

Edit: and as long as we're listing problems with it, does it still lose its "stay" command whenever it attempts to renew the debuff? That was one of the reasons I never used the Soulless, it doesn't remember commands.
it loses the stay command? nasty, never tried that. While i love the soulless, and i do, I do feel strongly that he is at BEST equal to the other pets. When you add in the curse it makes soulless vastly inferior and useless when soloing which is the major part of my hunting.
Don't worry, i never hunt with the merrow as well.. it's just a great training tool with its speed and C1 HP.
Merrow has about 10% more attack power than the other summons and 66% less experience penalty (i.e. 10% instead of 30, turn it around in your head a bit and it'll make sense).

That means, if you wind up not needing the recharges, you get a noticable bunch of extra EXP with it. Very noticable. ;p
To put it in perpective,

in c3 i could get .55% self-buffed per 20 mins @ lvl 69.

in C4 at the same area i can get 1.3% (equivalent) using Kai and Beast Soulshots @ lvl 69.

2.4X lvling speed. (wow... that came out perfectly ;p. soulshots 2x + -20% exp penalty)
Life is good.
I might have to break level 50 at this rate... I'm almost out of summoners to reroll into!
That was a C3 comment Maline.. be sure I'll try the merrow Vs Boxer Vs Seraphin solo and party to chose the best option for my pve hunts ;)
Seraphim solo is not an option.

Too weak.
lol.. yeah and summoner stop nuking at 52 :)

You know me silv: I still nuke, Seraphin has more Patk than me and still hit with pss and eats even less xp than the others.. her buff can either increase my casting speed or my MP regen.. this is something I'll have to try both solo and party.

In fact, I am more wondering which one from the Boxer and the Merrow, will be my lvling Servitor and I am also prety sure that partying will still make me lvl slower than soloing.. specially after (too briefly) seeing my Mirage this morning hunting with pss and pbsps.

Well.. i'll do it as soon as I get these books and skills.. I have no sp left atm :/
i've been looking forward to using soulless but my clan wants me to use the new one exclusively due to it's pvp nastiness. Tonight i'm going to try solo with soul-less, with his patk bonus i think it'll be doable.