anyone else thing you should be able to spoil raid bosses?
i dont play my bh anymore but dwarfs usually arent needed for raids so why not bring at least 1 to spoil like 1k varnish or something?
Judging by the spoils of non raid boss mobs, Antharas would more likely spoil something like 2 animal skin or maybe 5 thread or if you are lucky 2 SoP.
stop thinking about farmers, this game isnt made to counter the farmers. they just want a raid boss spoil because THEY like it, so not doing it because it might benefit a farmer is stupid
wanna get rid of farmers, stop punishing the people who like Pvp.
I love Pvp but hate the idea of losing XP. its the dumbest thing.
y have arenas, just make all of the L2 world an arena. it would fix a lot of things.
LIKE FARMING
Oh you mean, the couple of A-grade weapons and the dozen of enchant scrolls and the whole bunch of other items, which sum up to a worth of over 1000 Million adena easily are not enough incentive for farmers already ? I seriously doubt, that 1000 varnish would make the loot significantly worth more (in case of antharas).
Sounds to me, like you have never actually killed a raid boss before.
Or maybe you are one of TimeCops bretheren and believe, that every Dwarf simply has to be a bot ?
I think you are confusing PvP and PK here. PvP IS already without penalty. PK is not.
Botters do not PvP, they can only be targets of PK. And if you make bots free game, you automatically turn everyone into deers, made for being hunted by bored kids.
I think you are confusing PvP and PK here. PvP IS already without penalty. PK is not.
Botters do not PvP, they can only be targets of PK. And if you make bots free game, you automatically turn everyone into deers, made for being hunted by bored kids.
Hunting Kitten
yea yea, i meant PKing, as for turning others into deers, umm no. see thats not the idea, Lineage 2s world is be enough to if ur killed, you can go somewhere else and lvl. the idea of me dieing from a "bored kid" as you say, already happens, its called Ebay and botting, I cant do either of these, so why punish me who would like to lvl, but cant because a 13yo kid comes and kills me, turns red laughs and dies once or twice, and then goes buys more things with Usd$ and can put it off, if your going to incorperate a PVP/PK system into a game dont incorperate it with the experience part of the game.
leave it separate.
I do not see, how taking away PK-penalties would make your stance against bored idiots any better. Instead it would turn more people into killers, just because they can, and because there is no penalty.
Actually bot trains flag :p Dunno if its me or not but i already hitted a few that flag back heheheh.
I totaly agree that BH should have better spoils at high lvls(A grade weapon parts as spoil plz!) As is right now BHs have nothing to look for at high lvls.
To get on topic, yes, it would be really cool, if raid bosses had some spoil table, like non-raid bosses do. It would really make not that much of a difference, cause raids are solely done for the drops anyway (with exception of the soulcrystal and subclass quests), so why not mix in a little bit of spoil loot.
At least then a BH would not have to dance to keep the nukers happy, but could at least do 1 useful thing in the raid. And since on raids, the loot is spread by internal clan rules anyway, this would not make Dwarves any richer than they are.
Oh btw... Did anyone ever try to SEED a raid boss and survived the wrath of the clan/ally killing it ? (remember: Seed nullify any chance of normal drops aside of adena). Imagine you kill Antharas and all the thing drops is adena and harvests 10 crops :)
Hits needed to kill a normal mob: 20
Hits needed to kill Antharas: (a lot more)
Spoils needed to land on a normal mob: up to 4 or 5
Spoils needed to land on Antharas: (we need three rechargers for the Bounty Hunter, plz)
dont want it to be easy but 2 spoils will usually guarantee you spoil a pink mob (unless you are a ws like me who spoiled dc robe fabric at blazing swamp)
10 would be fairly reasonable for a raid
BTW you cant seed raid bosses if you could i would be seeding raid boss farmers on a million alts
I think you are confusing PvP and PK here. PvP IS already without penalty. PK is not.
Botters do not PvP, they can only be targets of PK. And if you make bots free game, you automatically turn everyone into deers, made for being hunted by bored kids.
Hunting Kitten
yea yea, i meant PKing, as for turning others into deers, umm no. see thats not the idea, Lineage 2s world is be enough to if ur killed, you can go somewhere else and lvl. the idea of me dieing from a "bored kid" as you say, already happens, its called Ebay and botting, I cant do either of these, so why punish me who would like to lvl, but cant because a 13yo kid comes and kills me, turns red laughs and dies once or twice, and then goes buys more things with Usd$ and can put it off, if your going to incorperate a PVP/PK system into a game dont incorperate it with the experience part of the game.
leave it separate.
How about have normal pk rules in play so peeps stillget punished for killing those who can't fight back and lower xp lose to a pk to 1% so the guys being pked lose almost nothing. I do think things should also be incorperated to protect noobs where say anyone 25 levs higher then someone they kill gets double or triple the karma.
I think you are confusing PvP and PK here. PvP IS already without penalty. PK is not.
Botters do not PvP, they can only be targets of PK. And if you make bots free game, you automatically turn everyone into deers, made for being hunted by bored kids.
Hunting Kitten
yea yea, i meant PKing, as for turning others into deers, umm no. see thats not the idea, Lineage 2s world is be enough to if ur killed, you can go somewhere else and lvl. the idea of me dieing from a "bored kid" as you say, already happens, its called Ebay and botting, I cant do either of these, so why punish me who would like to lvl, but cant because a 13yo kid comes and kills me, turns red laughs and dies once or twice, and then goes buys more things with Usd$ and can put it off, if your going to incorperate a PVP/PK system into a game dont incorperate it with the experience part of the game.
leave it separate.
How about have normal pk rules in play so peeps stillget punished for killing those who can't fight back and lower xp lose to a pk to 1% so the guys being pked lose almost nothing. I do think things should also be incorperated to protect noobs where say anyone 25 levs higher then someone they kill gets double or triple the karma.
post this into the thread i started about PVP, those are some good ideas, ive covered this in the PvP thread.
AKA killing a lower lvl with a high lvl will eff u over. just like trying to kill a low lvl raid boss with a high lvl char will get you paralized for a long time, trying to kill a low lvl could have the same effect.
back on topic.