Devs...FIX THIS PLEASE!

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Someone was not thinking streight when they were making sin eater. I cannot kill a mob without my summon out but yet I cant summon with sin eater out. FIX THIS PELASE.

I am not saying make it so we can have 2 summons/pets out, I am saying make it so the sin eater is not a pet. Or do something that allows us to have a summon/pet out with sin eater.
uh dont expect to have anything fixed with a subject like that. Demanding gets nothing in this forum. Well everything gets nothing in this forum
Simple solution, you're a summoner, don't pk :p
well thats the harsh life of a summoner
Anyway, a lvl 40 summoner that can't kill anything is...
Either ebayed, or hasn't played his char on his own...

I guess Elven Wizzies never reach 40 solo if they don't use summons o.O
The issue isn't that he can't kill anything, it's that he can't use his primary weapon, a summon, at the same time he uses a Sin Eater. At 40 it's fairly minor (actually he probably gets experience faster summonless, if it's like PS) but imagine at, say, 60.

The issue isn't that he can't kill anything, it's that he can't use his primary weapon, a summon, at the same time he uses a Sin Eater.



"I cannot kill a single mob" sounds to me that he's just... nevermind.

"I cannot kill a single mob" sounds to me that he's just... nevermind.

Prone to exaggeration? Whiny? Somewhat annoying?
;)


"I cannot kill a single mob" sounds to me that he's just... nevermind.

Prone to exaggeration? Whiny? Somewhat annoying?
;)



If you'd know how precise u just described LostGrace :cool:
Where do I check for "all of the above" ? ;)

LostKitten
No matter who Lostgracce is, it's still a FRACKING BUG!!

Imagine all you Melee, Nukers, Buffers, Healers, totally unable to respectively Patk, Nuke, Buff, Heal once you summon the Sin Eater.. what will you do, other than whine over and over again, on every fracking L2 official and fan boards? :mad:

This is a very old and valid request from the summoner community, we're not better or worste than any other classes in-game, in that regard.

On a side note.. LG, you could have chosen a better topic title!
Hmmm, you mean, if I were to use only the skills, that I had before lvl 40 already.
Well, I guess, I would just hit the mob with my weapon, as I always do.

Bounty Hunters apparently are broken by default :) We do not get to use leet 40+ skills or stuff with or without a sin eater out :)

giggling Kitten
I posted it the way I did because I am angry about it.

And dont tell me to not pk, I have to pk for varouse resons, and I refuse to be denied the option to pk, an option that everyone else has.
I don't deny you the ability to PK.

And just like Bounty Hunters, you can grab a weapon in your hand and kill mobs with your pre 40 spells and level a sin eater.

Yes, it does suck for Summoners, but that is the way it is. Before there was a sin eater quest, you had no chance at all to lower your PK count.

Sin Kitten
simple fact is that alot of summoners play them because thye love their summon. so you cant expect them to use other methods to clear their pks with sin eater. its not a bug, but it sure is not the way it should be.
waaaaaaa

Hmmm, you mean, if I were to use only the skills, that I had before lvl 40 already.
Well, I guess, I would just hit the mob with my weapon, as I always do.

Bounty Hunters apparently are broken by default :) We do not get to use leet 40+ skills or stuff with or without a sin eater out :)

giggling Kitten



schmuse if you are like a summoner then not only would u have no skills but you would have no patk either
Im nto use to having this many people in my defence. I feel special.
Aren't you circumventing a ban by posting from that account, Skeleton? You're being defended because for one you only posted in an annoying way, not about a silly thing.

To Schmuse: Your 'skill' thing would make sense if summoners had fighter stats. They do, however, have melee stats, very weak LA mastery, and harshly reduced PDef when the sin eater is out (no transfer pain).

If you agreed to nuke until you could level your sin eater on your BH, I could see a parallel. Until then, it's just not the same. :p
yeah, a summoner looking to lower his pk count has to have good friends as the only that you can do this is join a party, summon your sin eater, and go sit down somewhere out of the way.

that is an exageration, I admit, and a low level summoner might be able to hunt on his own, however the point stands. this is somewhat unfair, really.
Everything they do in this game tends to drive people to party.

Why would this one issue be any different?

Find some friends like the rest of us have to.

Find some friends like the rest of us have to.


It wouldn't be so bad for him if he weren't so abrasive ;)


Find some friends like the rest of us have to.


It wouldn't be so bad for him if he weren't so abrasive ;)



For [censored] sake, stay out of my post Shadowhyn.

My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.
ask a friend to help u.. just use ur nukes till mid 55 should be ok and heals...or get a huge sword and light armor and go melee.

Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters.



Umm no they can't... some can't even PK effectively.



Find some friends like the rest of us have to.


It wouldn't be so bad for him if he weren't so abrasive ;)



For [censored] sake, stay out of my post Shadowhyn.

My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.


I'm going to say leave it as it is just because of your attitude.


My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.



This isn't a valid point. Not every class has the capability to solo.

Try this point instead since it seems to be what you're trying to say:
Every other class retains their offensive capabilities regardless of how effective that ability may be while leveling a sin eater.



My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.



This isn't a valid point. Not every class has the capability to solo.

Try this point instead since it seems to be what you're trying to say:
Every other class retains their offensive capabilities regardless of how effective that ability may be while leveling a sin eater.


The other classes that cannot cannot really pk (aka healers, unless your an EE =P)

My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.


Ok, I apologize, I'll stop poking at ya. But I do have some comments about your point;

Not every other class can solo lvl a sin-eater. I lost the ability to solo at about 80% through lvl 47, so for me to try to level a sin-eater by myself would be suicide. Until this bug is fixed, your best bet will be to duo or trio with other players, so that you don't have as much downtime. Or, grind it out on greens/blues. Good luck. :D




My point is valid. Every other class besides summoners can solo lvl up their sin eaters. But us summoners cannot.



This isn't a valid point. Not every class has the capability to solo.

Try this point instead since it seems to be what you're trying to say:
Every other class retains their offensive capabilities regardless of how effective that ability may be while leveling a sin eater.


The other classes that cannot cannot really pk (aka healers, unless your an EE =P)



If you're perfectly fine with them being denied the right to PK then I'm perfectly fine with your being denied the right to use a sin eater.
Also, at high lvls, some melees solo lvling a sin eater would take a really long time. They'd need oop buffs or a huge amount of healing pots to avoid long down time periods so I dont really see whats the problem here. You cant solo lvl your sin eater, big deal get a party thats what others do too.

And btw, what on earth is an ES pk'ing, healers? Lowbies? Dont say you pk *insert the three letter word here* ;)

Also, at high lvls, some melees solo lvling a sin eater would take a really long time. They'd need oop buffs or a huge amount of healing pots to avoid long down time periods so I dont really see whats the problem here. You cant solo lvl your sin eater, big deal get a party thats what others do too.

And btw, what on earth is an ES pk'ing, healers? Lowbies? Dont say you pk *insert the three letter word here* ;)



ES summon is EXTREMELY powerful. Their nuke HURTS and ES have the means to buff them up themselves. But like so many people already said, not many classes can solo to lvl up their sin eater. Summoners are more than just their pet summon, they have cubic, they can play healer. Trust me, there are not many that can solo lvl up their Sin Eater, if this were possible there would probably be more rampant PKing than you care to have going around :).
The point is not about our ability or inability to lvl solo with the Sin Easter.. it's about our inability to use our MAIN SKILL with the sin eater, in other words: and with the Servitor pet ss, that BUG is even more annoying.

Like I said, all you, playing the tuff guys in this thread, would whine the hell of it if NCsoft says that Healers could not use their buffs.heals, Fighters could not use their Physical skills and Nukers could only melee... while the Sin eater is out!

Having some personal issues with Skeleton's behaviour, shouldn't blind your judgments like that.

Like I said, all you, playing the tuff guys in this thread, would whine the hell of it if NCsoft says that Healers could not use their buffs.heals, Fighters could not use their Physical skills and Nukers could only melee... while the Sin eater is out!


i could accept that, though. There are multiple penalties for going red - why should reducing your pk count be easy? As it stands, though, it is unfair toward summoners.


Like I said, all you, playing the tuff guys in this thread, would whine the hell of it if NCsoft says that Healers could not use their buffs.heals, Fighters could not use their Physical skills and Nukers could only melee... while the Sin eater is out!


i could accept that, though. There are multiple penalties for going red - why should reducing your pk count be easy? As it stands, though, it is unfair toward summoners.



Its not. It took me a day to lvl my sin eater 1 level, just to have 2 pks taken away. I have to level it 5 more levels, and unless I get the ability to level it with my summon out It will be harder then you guys think it is.

Try playing a summoner and try to level a sin eater before you talk [censored].

And If I wanted to nuke then I would have gone sps. I dont wanna nuke, thats why I went ES....
well.. lets compare it with nukers..

they can solo it..

take away their nukes when they summon sin eater and they cant


and what about archers..

take away their patk


u get it yet?