Dice.

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What happened to my dice? I can no longer make em roll....it says "players are no longer allowed to play dice, but feel free to sell em to the store" or some such garbage.

Whats going on here....dice were my fave....one night in gludin I made 50k by betting with some chick. but now.....I'm crushed.
Thank the Koreans. They had to take the dice out of the game, because apparently (that's what I read at least) people there are not allowed to gamble, e.g. roll dice for money or something like that. So they removed all dice from the game with a patch during C3, and now we get the same treatment with C4. Most likely simply because the animations for the dice are no longer in game, and the NA team cannot put them in again by themselves - not because they want to prevent the players on the NA servers from gambling.
You know, this is as stupid as the no swearing allowed or no lingerie on the US servers.

If people really want to gamble, don't you think that they will do so in another way? Plenty of randomness in Li2 to gamble if you like that.
Oh.

I still think that someone leaked the information to Gambling Commision about there being Gambling in L2, but they aren't getting their share of the cut (err, call em 'taxes'). So GC told NCsoft to cease all Gambling in L2.
Does that mean, that the monster race track will be removed too ? ;)

Monster Race Kitten
exactly what i was gonna say kitten, thats the biggest gamle spot in game, and joining lottery is a gamble in a way

i loved my dice, i was an addict and rolled it 100 times in a minute to annoy people.. and now i cant anymore
Everytime you leave town, you are betting that you don't get PK'd or killed by a mob. Everytime you enter a catacomb, you are betting that you don't get trained. Yes, the higher level you are, the better the odds are in your favor, still a gamble.

i loved my dice, i was an addict and rolled it 100 times in a minute to annoy people.. and now i cant anymore



It's funny what people are interested in. I never thought the dice were of any value and I actually thought that others felt the same way as I rarely saw people use them.

Live and learn :eek:
Online games need a random number generator of some form. We used the dice to determine who got drops from raid bosses in C3. Stupid not to have some kind of generator of random numbers.

Online games need a random number generator of some form. We used the dice to determine who got drops from raid bosses in C3. Stupid not to have some kind of generator of random numbers.



my thoughts exactly, substandard/normal information that was given to the player base said that the dice were being removed from NPC stores - not that dice were also being disabled. I purchased about 100 dice from the NPC, some for possible resale but with a clan and alliance I've always seen dice used to see where the raid drops went - you need a random number generator; guess now everyone can go to the race track and choose which mobs comes in first to see who gets which drop.
or drop them on the floor and use random pickup :p

or drop them on the floor and use random pickup :p



good idea


i loved my dice, i was an addict and rolled it 100 times in a minute to annoy people.. and now i cant anymore



It's funny what people are interested in. I never thought the dice were of any value and I actually thought that others felt the same way as I rarely saw people use them.

Live and learn :eek:


I used mine to annoy people. I actually had a dice roll as part of one of my fighting macros. *I* thought it was funny and that's really all that matters. Sucks they got rid of them. :mad:
It's sad really, I didn't know about the dices until last week, and I bought some for my charachers because they were fun to have. And now they don't work.

Right now it's they only thing I don't like in C4, my Dices don't work anymore.
I guess I'm more conspiratorial than most. My view on the removal of the dice is a bit different. The dice used the random number generator, and gave a numeric display of its sampling of that RNG. It was therefor a sampling tool for the RNG.

I've always wondered if this sampling feature could be used to help the success-rate of over-enchanting. Have your friends start rolling dice, when someone gets a 'six' or a 'five' or whatever, hit the enchant scroll. Maybe you'd need to see multiple 'sixes' or something. Doing such experiments would have been free, since, if there was no relationship, you'd just have the normal chance.

Perhaps someone found a magic sequence of dice throws that flagged a 'sure-thing' overenchant period. That would trigger a move to remove dice from the game.

I also bought a few of these just before C4, when their removal from the shops was announced. I incorrectly thought 'removed from the NPC store' would not mean 'disabled from use.'

[Oh, 'dice' is plural; the singular of 'dice' is 'die.' 'Dices' is what the Vegamatic does, if you are old enough to remember that commercial.]

I guess I'm more conspiratorial than most. My view on the removal of the dice is a bit different. The dice used the random number generator, and gave a numeric display of its sampling of that RNG. It was therefor a sampling tool for the RNG.


I do not think that would have worked. As far as I know, the local client only displays, so all "processing" and "number rolling" is done on the server. So when you roll the die, note the number and roll the die again, in between the two rolls the server has produced THOUSANDS of other random numbers for all the other stuff happening in the world. So the sequence of random numbers you get from rolling a die in game does not help you one bit.

[Oh, 'dice' is plural; the singular of 'dice' is 'die.' 'Dices' is what the Vegamatic does, if you are old enough to remember that commercial.]



In french with just put a "s" for plural, we don't change how the word is spelled. :p

Un dé, des dés
im 99% sure the random generator for a dice roll runs seperate from any other. ive had some testing on pts and live on crafting and overenchating and never really saw a difference in high or low rolls
I liked to have the dice in long-running macros to give a visual/auditory cue that it was done.

And to run thru town making happy noises about so-and-so rolled a 4. Kinda like a poor-man's squeaky shoes.

The brutal irony is that the christmas trees I gave away
would still be working today. (not that I miss them, really)

No dice. :(


[Oh, 'dice' is plural; the singular of 'dice' is 'die.' 'Dices' is what the Vegamatic does, if you are old enough to remember that commercial.]



In french with just put a "s" for plural, we don't change how the word is spelled. :p


Wow. I have tons of posts but would never take the time to correct someone about something like this (I assumed you were not a native English speaker anyway).
Great. The dice were one of the best ways for spliting up raid drops, and now we don't even get that.

All my dreams of opening up a casino in c5 have gone down the drain :(

Oh, 'dice' is plural; the singular of 'dice' is 'die.' 'Dices' is what the Vegamatic does, if you are old enough to remember that commercial.]


Hm, my Advanced Learner's Dictionary from Oxford University Press says that dice is unchanged in plural (dice / dice).
I'm annoyed that this change was slipped in unannounced. They said they wouldn't be available from stores, not that they were intentionally breaking all the ones we already owned.

I liked my dice. :mad:

I'm annoyed that this change was slipped in unannounced. They said they wouldn't be available from stores, not that they were intentionally breaking all the ones we already owned.

I liked my dice. :mad:



/agree

I bought about 200k worth of dice from the npc to resell after they were removed from shops. BUT NOPE now I'm out 200k and cant sell them and I cant even play with them!!! I LOVED dice... I had one to two dice on each char of mine. It was worth the inventory slots to play with dice >_<


I'm annoyed that this change was slipped in unannounced. They said they wouldn't be available from stores, not that they were intentionally breaking all the ones we already owned.

I liked my dice. :mad:



/agree

I bought about 200k worth of dice from the npc to resell after they were removed from shops. BUT NOPE now I'm out 200k and cant sell them and I cant even play with them!!! I LOVED dice... I had one to two dice on each char of mine. It was worth the inventory slots to play with dice >_<


You should be able to sell them back to an NPC.

To be fair, since they blatently mislead us about this change, NPCs should buy them back for exactly what they cost for us to purchase them.
LOL!!! I thought they just wouldn't sell them anymore, so I bought a bunch of them for my friends and clanmates....LMAO....
I loved the dice. I used to gamble with them and just plain have fun. Their removal deeply disturbed me. I think this post should become a petition and placed on the suggestions forums. That's what a GM told me to do. Bring back dice for a better tomorrow. /signed
They got dice out because Koreans where making RL gambles and losing everything... you know Koreans, they dont go home for weeks because they stay at internet cafes....

you know Koreans, they dont go home for weeks because they stay at internet cafes....


All of them!?! :eek:
:)Yes :p lol J/k :eek:
Dice were temporarily disabled in the launch of Chronicle 4, and we plan on changing this during the next scheduled server maintenance on Tuesday. Dice will be usable after the server maintenance, but will still not be sold in the NPC vendor stores.
thank god.
OMG YESSSSSSSSSSS we can use dice again!!

Dice were temporarily disabled in the launch of Chronicle 4, and we plan on changing this during the next scheduled server maintenance. Dice will be usable after the server maintenance, but will still not be sold in the NPC vendor stores.



YAAAAAAAAA thank you!!!