Cancel: NERFED!

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C4 has ruined my bestest spell in the game cancel. Before, I used to be able to cancel, sleep, surrender, nuke to death anyone, anytime, anywhere.

Now, they made this change in C4:


6) The probability that Cancel will remove buffs and debuffs has been considerably reduced, and the reuse time has decreased from 300 seconds to 120 seconds.




Considerably reduced? Mine still lands 100% of the time, and it usually takes off every buff. Thank you for lowering the reuse time to 120 seconds and ruining my favoritest spell.
Ive had it completely miss me a few times by high lvl Sorc/SpS. And don't forget SE,EE, and WCs get a buff that resists debuffs and buff removal spells so......it actually did get nerfed. And I have yet to have cancel shut out of my buffs completely. I think people were expecting a huge SpS/Sorc crippling nerf but all they got was a balancing nerf :confused:.
I've had cancel cast on me 10+ times already and it havn't missed yet and always left me with 2-3 buffs :( This is not really a nerf IMO. Maybe the resistance buffs will help but before that it's worse than C3 so far.
You have archane chaos later on. You may like it.
Please stop complaining about he nukers getting a balancing nerf. You are WAY overpowered in c3. Now maybe one of us OVERnerfed daggers (although it's better nowin c4) even has a chance to clobber one of you in PvP.

Please stop complaining about he nukers getting a balancing nerf. You are WAY overpowered in c3. Now maybe one of us OVERnerfed daggers (although it's better nowin c4) even has a chance to clobber one of you in PvP.



Sarcasm escapes you.
If it's any consolation, it was hard to tell at first.

Also... Daggers.... shup up. Remember C2? I don't, but I saw the videos and heard the stories. All of you c3/c4 whiners are just butthurt fotm rerolls from C2... so rofl @ u.

Also, cancel can still land... but reduce a lower amount of buffs ( at random ). Sometimes it missed completely, and sometimes it left me with all but 1-3 buffs.
The more nukers loose the better, meeles (not only daggers) are weak compared to ranged/nukers, so dont insult ppl for complaining about that, bhodosativa.
This thread needs to be canceled...

The more nukers loose the better, meeles (not only daggers) are weak compared to ranged/nukers, so dont insult ppl for complaining about that, bhodosativa.



The FOTM trains got what they deserved.

Also... Daggers.... shup up. Remember C2? I don't, but I saw the videos and heard the stories. All of you c3/c4 whiners are just butthurt fotm rerolls from C2... so rofl @ u.



Anyone who uses the term "butthurt" derserves the same.

Besides that, I started my dagger in C1, not C2, so I was hardly FOTM. Personally I hated C2, it was stupid to be able to kill players 15 levels above me without difficulty...now that's what most nukers have.

I'm actually 100% pleased with daggers in C4.

C4 dagger = C1 Dagger IMO.

But that doesn't mean nukers don't need a good whacking with the nerf bat. ;)

Anyone who uses the term "butthurt" derserves the same.


I agree 100%. I feel that those using this term are probably just waiting for the right moment to come out of the closet anyway. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Also... Daggers.... shup up. Remember C2? I don't, but I saw the videos and heard the stories. All of you c3/c4 whiners are just butthurt fotm rerolls from C2... so rofl @ u.



Anyone who uses the term "butthurt" derserves the same.

Besides that, I started my dagger in C1, not C2, so I was hardly FOTM. Personally I hated C2, it was stupid to be able to kill players 15 levels above me without difficulty...now that's what most nukers have.

I'm actually 100% pleased with daggers in C4.

C4 dagger = C1 Dagger IMO.

But that doesn't mean nukers don't need a good whacking with the nerf bat. ;)



Only problem is the one nuker class that needs a smack with the nerf bat instead got hit with a boost bat. Necros were nasty to begin with and now they are even stronger with new skills, new summon, and summon shots.
After many tests I had figured out that on WC m def (1004 m def) The first lvl of cancel starts at about 40% land rate and works its way all the way to about 65% at the highest lvls. Im working on obtaining the resist cancel buff and I will tell you how that affects it
Quick question cuz this post is confusing me a lil bit...

Are you saying now that Cancel lands like 75% of the time if not higher, but that when it lands its not as effective and on top of that the reuse as been cut drastically.... If so, as a sps i can live with that, it doesnt seem as bad a nerf as i was expecting...

Correct me if im wrong here guys, i havent tried my cancel yet in arena against another player, so im not sure how good it is yet or not good ......

Side note tho, for aura flare, i havent tried it in PvP, can anyone tell me what its doing now in terms of nerfing against other players.

Ive tried it against mobs, theres a time delay on it before re-use is available, but you can counter that prety good with fast casting speed... 1000+... so whats the damage on that one........in PvP of course :)

Cheers!!
Ok, what they did to auraflare is in pvp it's 50% the damage it used to be but in pvp only. Also you'll get a little 3sec debuff in which if you use any other spell (other then auraflare) it operates at 50% matk. Example: I tested it on our clan's SK, prominence 362 - auraflare 129 followed by another auraflare 129 followed by prominence ~130. I then used aurabolt with out the debuff and it did ~168, but everytime auraflare did 129, no more, no less.

As for cancel, I had a clanny use cancel on me in the arena to try to get rid of some debuffs from the hot springs. It got rid of all but 2 ol buffs and the debuffs (go figure huh), he tried again and it did absolutely nothing.
its a good thing if you think it got nurfed but now the mobs have a 100% cast now and has yet to failed 1 time at least it makes it more equal on the game for pvp
Test it w/ arcane power on, Tokara. Cancel did land pretty well on PTS.
And mob Cancel was like the one in C3.
Hot springs 'buff' can be overbuffed, nor cancelled. Just death/class change.