Now Exile has every 4 clan halls in Goddard, they allready has Antaras and if you want to go kill it, you must ask Exile first, but they will not let you to do it, they need adena. They deside what clans will have a castles, they deside to let youre ally live or die. I have played on Teon for 6 mounth and have seen how desapear 3 allys, desapear because Exile need to fight with someone. In a moment then one ally has destroed they start war to anouther ally, and all this ally start losing peoples, klans and ... Velaskas allready will belong to them it is only a mater of time, and there is nothing we can do about it. We hoped NCSoft will bring a little rule to not have more than "some" CH in one ally, but there is no this rule. All clans in ally Exile now has clan hall, they have Aden and Inadril castles, they have new territories, they have everything. There is only few clans stayind againts them and this clans are dieng. In a moment they disapeared there is YOURE ally who will have next war with them. Exile has twinks in every big ally and to start war they need only to attack youre self with wis twinks, and there is nothing YOU can do about it, it is a future of every big ally on Teon. Ofcourse you can contact with them and sign papers about peace, but this peace will be only until they need it and next day if there is no one to fight they will start to fight with you.
Point: if we all not act now we will lose server, we will lose oure future, we need fight to bring balans. It dosent mater what we all beleave or hoped ... until Exile is agsist only they deside the fate af all ally. Help to clans what staying against Exile now, clans like ImortalChaos or TwilighT, help to destroi Exile - and you will have chens to big future, you will nave chans to siege, you will have chans to kill Antaras, Velaskas, you will have chans to do enething you want - and this chans belong only to you, no one will deside youre future - you will be the one!
Most funny part is when you say that exile NEED enemy....to remember...UntameD attacked exile, Defiance (Unforgiven) attacked exile then bring the biggest zerg ever on this server to try killing exile and take our castle but............they failed, and now who attack who? you said that its 6 month you are playing that game and maybe someone need to tell you that the war between Unforgiven (subclans) and exile had started sionce the beginning of Teon. For antharas why are we farming it? simply because we got a whole ally to equip and all the bif we put on the CH (999 999 999 a every CH) well we kinda try to have it back even if CH cost more than that money.
well the natural order of big empires are that they do fall, and when they do they fall hard. just look at history and it will follow that way even in a computer world. so if you have so much problems with them, just wait ;)
havnt had any problems with them myself, they have always been nice to me ;)
Most funny part is when you say that exile NEED enemy....to remember...UntameD attacked exile, Defiance (Unforgiven) attacked exile then bring the biggest zerg ever on this server to try killing exile and take our castle but............they failed, and now who attack who? you said that its 6 month you are playing that game and maybe someone need to tell you that the war between Unforgiven (subclans) and exile had started sionce the beginning of Teon. For antharas why are we farming it? simply because we got a whole ally to equip and all the bif we put on the CH (999 999 999 a every CH) well we kinda try to have it back even if CH cost more than that money.
HF playing L2 :)
slight clarification, exile attacked UT at one of the lilith raids.
and biggest zerg ever is and always has been exile during the first parts of their war with UT. 4 alliances + random clans vs 1 who at it's max was 7 clans.
I feel better knowing that exile rules than any other ally !
I've never been Exile, but i never had any trouble with any exile's member or clan.
not like those garbage allies like tempest, UT or defiance are/were!
agreed they have never done anything to me, maybe i just have run in to the nice people of exile but they have rezed me many times and never griefed me or anyhting like that.
I feel better knowing that exile rules than any other ally !
I've never been Exile, but i never had any trouble with any exile's member or clan.
not like those garbage allies like tempest, UT or defiance are/were!
Lol omg man i was in UntameD when Drekken ask all UntameD to be ready to do Lilith BECAUSE Exile was gathering to do it. Exile did say to untamed that they knew they were raiding and it would be stupid to start a war for that and Drekken did begin the war without asking any other clan leader of the alliance, that's why untamed broke out into untamed+Tempest after this. And if you really wanna know Drekken planned long time before that happen to declare war to Exile. Srry to dissapoint you but i was in a good position to see what was happening before UntameD-Exile war.
And for the zerg escuse me to remind you something. Old school Defiance was Defiance and insolence which was 2 allys against only 1 with 10 clan in it, so who are the zerg, The 2 alliances or the 1 with 10 clans.
and you are right elhiot..Yeah all big empire will fall one day, we know this but our purpose at the moment is trying to make this moment the further as possible in the time (dunno if its really english what i said o_O)
Exile is not telling anyone how to play or what to do..If we would have done that we should have taken Oren castle, Gludio Castle, Giran castle and give them to the ally WE choosed. For exemple during Defiance war we took giran castle, we didn't needed it we said all are free to take it except our enemy. SO we stayed on the field defending the castle against our enemy the others were free to do what they wanted to
I feel better knowing that exile rules than any other ally !
I've never been Exile, but i never had any trouble with any exile's member or clan.
not like those garbage allies like tempest, UT or defiance are/were!
Exile is not telling anyone how to play or what to do..If we would have done that we should have taken Oren castle, Gludio Castle, Giran castle and give them to the ally WE choosed. For exemple during Defiance war we took giran castle, we didn't needed it we said all are free to take it except our enemy. SO we stayed on the field defending the castle against our enemy the others were free to do what they wanted to
Yea you gave that Castle. In that situation it would be very difficult to divide forces into protection of two castel's, especially, that siage of Giran and Aden in one day. And Innandril In another.
I feel better knowing that exile rules than any other ally !
I've never been Exile, but i never had any trouble with any exile's member or clan.
not like those garbage allies like tempest, UT or defiance are/were!
who are you IG?
I'm not sure you need to know it :p
so you'll talk [censored] about other people without chance for reprocussion, but somehow to you they're the garbage? sounds like an exile ********* to me.
Because i felt like you wanted to tell me what happened. And we let it cause we didn't needed it like tonight for goddard we will not sign up for it cuz we really dont need it
And for the zerg escuse me to remind you something. Old school Defiance was Defiance and insolence which was 2 allys against only 1 with 10 clan in it, so who are the zerg, The 2 alliances or the 1 with 10 clans.
depends on how many members online at the same time and it was only 12-14 clans totally in those 2 allys at most (and some clans was mid-lvl)
btw Old Defiance is the only Ally that TOOK Innandrill from Exile... after that Exile was so furious that they took the chance and retook it on Christmas day when 90% of Defiance celebrated christmas
To bad that so many was carebears in Defiance after that...leaving the ally, instead they should had gathering more people for the fight
and as it says in other posts ... Exile descide what clans that should have a castle or not ....they choose RM (Syndicate) to have Goddard .. so they helped them get it .. by killing every other ally/flag on the field .. and it will be really nice to see who Exile gonna give Giran too on the next siege since its an "Exile-enemy-ally" that took it yesteday
becuz he says its useless to risk to lose a castle for one we didn't really care about unless it was on our enemy hands
(i know why we let it to other alliance ^^)
Bought them ? :)
only person that owns Giran is IA is WcAbex, our leader :)
politics commands exile now, not to control too much - they saw it when they took giran off drekken; thus stirring up more angst vs themselves. i saw it first-hand, ppl who never cared about what exile done all of a sudden were like "WTH?? THEY CANNOT DO THIS !!"
exile have good opposition imo, we joined IA and have awesome pvps so far, if these allies that fought exile where to stop, then exile wud disband imho like that other ally (devianne/sieghart?) that owned their server, they decided enough was enough, they owned their server for 3 years hard, and no challenge was left, so they broke up for the better of the server
btw Old Defiance is the only Ally that TOOK Innandrill from Exile... after that Exile was so furious that they took the chance and retook it on Christmas day when 90% of Defiance celebrated christmas
. Exile descide what clans that should have a castle or not ....they choose RM (Syndicate) to have Goddard .
My bad if Defiance people didn't paly on christmas day..I wasnt on but it was a religious fest..Russian didn't fest it they did few weeks later. Defiance treyed to take aden/innhadril on Russian fest and they didn't succeed. We had a chance to took innhadril, we did it; you had a chance you didn' t do it.
Goddard---> not my stuff but We said before siege if one of our enemy will show up at that siege we will come... So we did
becuz he says its useless to risk to lose a castle for one we didn't really care about unless it was on our enemy hands
(i know why we let it to other alliance ^^)
Bought them ? :)
only person that owns Giran is IA is WcAbex, our leader :)
politics commands exile now, not to control too much - they saw it when they took giran off drekken; thus stirring up more angst vs themselves. i saw it first-hand, ppl who never cared about what exile done all of a sudden were like "WTH?? THEY CANNOT DO THIS !!"
exile have good opposition imo, we joined IA and have awesome pvps so far, if these allies that fought exile where to stop, then exile wud disband imho like that other ally (devianne/sieghart?) that owned their server, they decided enough was enough, they owned their server for 3 years hard, and no challenge was left, so they broke up for the better of the server
WcAbex is a botter and bot protector, what are you doing associating with the likes of that idiot?
I quote him and his "friends" when we were trying to talk with them after getting in a dispute over killing one of their bot protectors in FP: "jajajajajajaja". That's all they can say. Oh, and "i pk war u", and then dares to flag on a lone 52 healer with 15 of his clannies around, but won't go red, of course.
yeah so exiles have a majority of the server, and most of the clan halls. even if they didnt, do u have the money to buy a clan hall? ^^ starting bid: 500mil. gl with that ;)
btw, exiles didnt give giran away back around christmas to someone of their choosing. there were at least 3 ally/clans that were fighting for it and exiles chose to keep defiance away is all. thats politics. aurora took it and held it the next time around against defiance and exiles didn't help then. aurora lost it to syndicate on christmas when syndicate had backup and aurora was at less than half due to christmas. it was a nice siege though, aurora held it until the last 12 minutes when a fresh batch of enemies came in, took out the crippled defenders (lack of mp, hp etc) and had enough time to pray while defenders were waiting to be teleported.
exiles dont bother anyone except for the occassional one u see protecting bots and their own enemies. ive met some really good people in exiles. all major allies will be criticized and whatnot. and whoooooo the hell said anything about asking for permission to kill antharas? LOL.
agreed they have never done anything to me, maybe i just have run in to the nice people of exile but they have rezed me many times and never griefed me or anyhting like that.
/acc
I'd rather let Exile have the server than these Spanish botters who are barely able to speak english. Exile is at least an ally which i see xp'ing? Can't really say that about IC (yeah they do in 9 man parties late at night - you can see them sometimes but most times they log off). Exile is powerfull and there are a lot of idiots in it (big bunch of people=certain percentage of candidates for postnatal abortion - just a matter of fact) like luxaeterna (morons from a to z), 3D, dvp, etc. Nevertheless at least the clan leaders have enough braincells and manners to solve any matter properly.
Im not a fan of exile but what is currently available on the other side is the worst scum that this server ever has seen (and it has seen a lot).
becuz he says its useless to risk to lose a castle for one we didn't really care about unless it was on our enemy hands
(i know why we let it to other alliance ^^)
Bought them ? :)
only person that owns Giran is IA is WcAbex, our leader :)
politics commands exile now, not to control too much - they saw it when they took giran off drekken; thus stirring up more angst vs themselves. i saw it first-hand, ppl who never cared about what exile done all of a sudden were like "WTH?? THEY CANNOT DO THIS !!"
exile have good opposition imo, we joined IA and have awesome pvps so far, if these allies that fought exile where to stop, then exile wud disband imho like that other ally (devianne/sieghart?) that owned their server, they decided enough was enough, they owned their server for 3 years hard, and no challenge was left, so they broke up for the better of the server
WcAbex is a botter and bot protector, what are you doing associating with the likes of that idiot?
I quote him and his "friends" when we were trying to talk with them after getting in a dispute over killing one of their bot protectors in FP: "jajajajajajaja". That's all they can say. Oh, and "i pk war u", and then dares to flag on a lone 52 healer with 15 of his clannies around, but won't go red, of course.
wow screens or it never happened? :)
ur name is familiar but i cant place the char - whats ur IG name?
yeah so exiles have a majority of the server, and most of the clan halls. even if they didnt, do u have the money to buy a clan hall? ^^ starting bid: 500mil. gl with that ;)
btw, exiles didnt give giran away back around christmas to someone of their choosing. there were at least 3 ally/clans that were fighting for it and exiles chose to keep defiance away is all. thats politics. aurora took it and held it the next time around against defiance and exiles didn't help then. aurora lost it to syndicate on christmas when syndicate had backup and aurora was at less than half due to christmas. it was a nice siege though, aurora held it until the last 12 minutes when a fresh batch of enemies came in, took out the crippled defenders (lack of mp, hp etc) and had enough time to pray while defenders were waiting to be teleported.
exiles dont bother anyone except for the occassional one u see protecting bots and their own enemies. ive met some really good people in exiles. all major allies will be criticized and whatnot. and whoooooo the hell said anything about asking for permission to kill antharas? LOL.
LOL Exile never bother anyone ... well thats true
unless
u hunt on "their xp-spot" if you do they just tell you to move or face the power of exile ... if you kill them ... they came back with a whole party to gank you ...
but finally 3 allys had making an attempt to work together and stop atleast some of Exiles domination .. in members those 3 allies is slighter more members than the almighty Exile ... but coordinate 3 Allies is a **** hard work, but it seems to be working. The last week Exile had suffered substansial losses .. both in mass pvp and they even lost the fight about Antharas... so the 3 allies could kill it
so the fight of teon has begun .... just to bad that Exile has the benefits of lots of clanhalls in Aden and the small bridge to Innandrill ..... if thats not been the case .... Exile ruling of this server had been ended
agreed they have never done anything to me, maybe i just have run in to the nice people of exile but they have rezed me many times and never griefed me or anyhting like that.
/acc
I'd rather let Exile have the server than these Spanish botters who are barely able to speak english. Exile is at least an ally which i see xp'ing? Can't really say that about IC (yeah they do in 9 man parties late at night - you can see them sometimes but most times they log off). Exile is powerfull and there are a lot of idiots in it (big bunch of people=certain percentage of candidates for postnatal abortion - just a matter of fact) like luxaeterna (morons from a to z), 3D, dvp, etc. Nevertheless at least the clan leaders have enough braincells and manners to solve any matter properly.
Im not a fan of exile but what is currently available on the other side is the worst scum that this server ever has seen (and it has seen a lot).
im sorry but you really have NO idea unless ofc ur in exile then your post makes sense for your bias comments, otherwise you rly dont have a clue what youre saying
I know Exile and some Pretorians from the time they were first on Lionna, and even now, I never heard of anything about Exile ruling the server or anything like that.
If you're saying they decide who can bite Anthie or not and some sort of stuff, well, do you know how much people there are into this alliance ? ( I think around 200 maybe more, not sure about that ) Then upon that total, pick the number of 61+ willing to get stuff for free ( or at least frigging really cheap ).
I think Exile, having the possibility to get to Anthie as often as they can, are right to exploit that possibility to the max.
Keep in mind organizing such an alliance requires a lot of qualities, maybe taken as defaults by non-members of that alliance.
If they'd want to rule the server, they could have raise Aden's Tax rate. Did they ? I guess not.
I don't think either the reason why some alliances split up is because of Exile. Would be kinda ridiculous though. It be some kind of "They are too strong we'll never beat them". Hey that's a kind of a challenge isn't it ?
As much Exile as they all are, they remain simple humans playing in front of their screens and thus they COULD be beaten if the opposite clan/alliances were organizing at the same time.
However I don't know how much clans/alliances they have on their back, if every of those were coordinating a frontal assault against Exile, maybe hey could beat them, or at least, they would harm them hardly enough for opponents to make them more vulnerable.
If you're saying they decide who can bite Anthie or not and some sort of stuff, well, do you know how much people there are into this alliance ? ( I think around 200 maybe more, not sure about that ) Then upon that total, pick the number of 61+ willing to get stuff for free ( or at least frigging really cheap ).
And for the zerg escuse me to remind you something. Old school Defiance was Defiance and insolence which was 2 allys against only 1 with 10 clan in it, so who are the zerg, The 2 alliances or the 1 with 10 clans.
Both.
If a man weight 178Kg and another weight 197Kg, who is the fat guy?
And regarding the zerg disscussion here is an article I find quite interesting
The Magic of 150
The human cortex, responsible for complex thought and reasoning, is overgrown in humans when compared to other mammals. Scientists have argued for years about why this is the case.
Dunbar has gone through anthropological literature and found that the number 150 pops up over and over again. For example, he looked at 21 different hunger-gatherer societies around the world and found that the average number of people in each village was 148.4.
The same pattern holds true for military organization. Over the years, through trial and error, military planners have arrived at a rule of thumb for the size of a functional fighting unit - 200 men. They have realized that it is quite difficult to make any larger a group than this to function as a unit without complicated hierarchies and rules and regulations and formal measures to insure loyalty and unity within the group. With a group of 150 or so, formalities are not necessary. Behavior can be controlled on the basis of personal loyalties and direct man-to-man contacts. With larger groups, this seems impossible.
Take a lesson from this. If you are engaged in a large enterprise or are planning to work for one, realize that large groups rapidly reduce the efficiency of an operation. If each department is separated, especially if there are hundreds or thousands of people involved, complex systems of organizations will be required to keep everyone in check. Peer pressure is much more powerful than the somehow vague concept of a boss or punishment. People will work only hard enough not to get fired in a very large group, but will live up to the expectations of their peers in smaller groups where they have a personal relationship with each of their co-workers. Of course, a small group size is not by any means a guarantee of success. Small enterprises fail all the time. It's just a concept -- an idea to keep in the back of your mind as you vegetate in that basement cubicle
one funny thing about the war between IA/TT/Syndicate and Exile
is that Exile has beginning to leave their precious hunting-grounds that they have qwned for long time, like FG, Doomhill and BS, just to name a few of the spots
Before, everytime you get there, you see Exile hunting there .. but now ... NO Exile to be seen ... only other clans there now
So for the first time .. i really think Exile is feeling the same power AGAINST them, that they have used on others for so long..
SO GOGOGO the 3 Allies .. keep up the good work and maybe what we see is the beginning of the end....
This weekend its time for even more MASS-PVP -- Its siegetime
And for you guys not reading another forums and not beeing involved in the war heres a link to one of the biggest PvP outside sieges
but finally 3 allys had making an attempt to work together and stop atleast some of Exiles domination .. in members those 3 allies is slighter more members than the almighty Exile ... but coordinate 3 Allies is a **** hard work, but it seems to be working. The last week Exile had suffered substansial losses .. both in mass pvp and they even lost the fight about Antharas... so the 3 allies could kill it
so the fight of teon has begun .... just to bad that Exile has the benefits of lots of clanhalls in Aden and the small bridge to Innandrill ..... if thats not been the case .... Exile ruling of this server had been ended
lol yes, be proud of your 3 alliance zerg against 1 ally zerg. Even if Exile have 480 members ( which is the max ). And during that Anthy fight we had 209 people online. I am sure each enemy ally had atleast more then 100 people online which still makes you outnumbering us big time. Numbers do matter unfortunate. Everybody keeps telling bla bla Exile 450+ people. Well let me tell you something, I did many times /allyinfo during sieges and the most numbers we got was 300 or so. Never 400+ till now, but that will change soon.
And you took Antharas so what ? ++pvp. Took you also 4 hours to kill it with that ammount of force.
We not xping anymore in the usual spots ? Ofcourse not, people lvl up and have to go higher spots. You really thing lvl 70 exile will go level at doom hill ? Dark blue mobs ?
And if Exile is not leveling neither the enemy is, you really think Exile is the one having trouble to xp ? To fight a war you cannot xp aswell ( unless you do it overnight )
And also big laugh at the thread starter, I wonder what's his ingame name is.
I'm new to the server and I don't quite understand what is it all about? What do you mean by "Teon is now belong to Exile"? They have couple of clan halls and castles and they are big alliance. And what? What is your problem? You must learn that this is MMORPG. You play with another people. If there is one antharas and 100000 ppl want to kill him we always will have a conflict. We can solve it by diplomacy or war. So they win a war with you and they kill antharas. You lost. It happens. Maybe next time you will have more luck. Why do you need to cry at forum and why do we have such big thread about nothing?
And about hunting grounds. There are common rulez in MMORPGs about it. When you enter some room with mobs or some location where another party is xping you can: Ask them if you can join or go to another room. You DO NOT kill mobs that they are killing and DO NOT pickup their drops. Use your common sense. If you want to xp in some room and some guy enters it and finishes mobs started by you -> you get angry don't you?
On other hand if you were first in some room and other party enters it and tell you to leave -> this is very rude. And if you really hate it you can get some friends and allies and start a war. Isn't it fun?
If you don't like playing with another ppl buy GuildWars :) Simple.
That's the very interesting feature in L2 - Ppl have influence on the world. I like it very much. I like talking to ppl, playing with ppl, trading with them, going to kill raid bosses or having pvp, war, competition, castle siege, etc.
One advice: Stop complaining and start having great time playing Lineage II :)
I'm new to the server and I don't quite understand what is it all about? What do you mean by "Teon is now belong to Exile"? They have couple of clan halls and castles and they are big alliance. And what? What is your problem? You must learn that this is MMORPG. You play with another people. If there is one antharas and 100000 ppl want to kill him we always will have a conflict. We can solve it by diplomacy or war. So they win a war with you and they kill antharas. You lost. It happens. Maybe next time you will have more luck. Why do you need to cry at forum and why do we have such big thread about nothing?
And about hunting grounds. There are common rulez in MMORPGs about it. When you enter some room with mobs or some location where another party is xping you can: Ask them if you can join or go to another room. You DO NOT kill mobs that they are killing and DO NOT pickup their drops. Use your common sense. If you want to xp in some room and some guy enters it and finishes mobs started by you -> you get angry don't you?
On other hand if you were first in some room and other party enters it and tell you to leave -> this is very rude. And if you really hate it you can get some friends and allies and start a war. Isn't it fun?
If you don't like playing with another ppl buy GuildWars :) Simple.
That's the very interesting feature in L2 - Ppl have influence on the world. I like it very much. I like talking to ppl, playing with ppl, trading with them, going to kill raid bosses or having pvp, war, competition, castle siege, etc.
One advice: Stop complaining and start having great time playing Lineage II :)
Cya all in game / Have Fun :)
your main argument this is a mmorpg u cant steal rooms/its V rude to do that, this is lineage2, pure pvp ruleset, there is no killstealing.
but finally 3 allys had making an attempt to work together and stop atleast some of Exiles domination .. in members those 3 allies is slighter more members than the almighty Exile ... but coordinate 3 Allies is a **** hard work, but it seems to be working. The last week Exile had suffered substansial losses .. both in mass pvp and they even lost the fight about Antharas... so the 3 allies could kill it
so the fight of teon has begun .... just to bad that Exile has the benefits of lots of clanhalls in Aden and the small bridge to Innandrill ..... if thats not been the case .... Exile ruling of this server had been ended
lol yes, be proud of your 3 alliance zerg against 1 ally zerg. Even if Exile have 480 members ( which is the max ). And during that Anthy fight we had 209 people online. I am sure each enemy ally had atleast more then 100 people online which still makes you outnumbering us big time. Numbers do matter unfortunate. Everybody keeps telling bla bla Exile 450+ people. Well let me tell you something, I did many times /allyinfo during sieges and the most numbers we got was 300 or so. Never 400+ till now, but that will change soon.
And you took Antharas so what ? ++pvp. Took you also 4 hours to kill it with that ammount of force.
We not xping anymore in the usual spots ? Ofcourse not, people lvl up and have to go higher spots. You really thing lvl 70 exile will go level at doom hill ? Dark blue mobs ?
And if Exile is not leveling neither the enemy is, you really think Exile is the one having trouble to xp ? To fight a war you cannot xp aswell ( unless you do it overnight )
And also big laugh at the thread starter, I wonder what's his ingame name is.
/Helepolis
Exile - Pretorians
we could argue about how many each side is for eternity, but those 3 allies together have less than 500 people and i can assure you there wasn't 300 in antharas lair, never the less we killed it without the help of a pro-RaidBoss-farmer clan, but im sure you can kill it without them too (just wonder how long it will take then)(next time you do the lizard skip pc and tell us how long it took)
and the part:
And if Exile is not leveling neither the enemy is, you really think Exile is the one having trouble to xp ? To fight a war you cannot xp aswell ( unless you do it overnight )
was REALLY interesting
Exile xping "overnight" that was a nice statement ...
i usually sleeps at night and when im sleeping i cant xp,
so xping while sleeping sounds like botting to me .... correct me if im wrong :p
WCAbex admitted it on ventrilo while talking to MauluZ. They said they are taking the risk to be bann but they got easely high lvls....For the Screens, using [censored] u see ur enemy coming so when we go saints, we target some IC member and when we come near them to kill... **** forcelogg so strange!!!!!!
And for the "belong to Exile". We made something for more than one year what do you hope? that we give you all our castle, clan halls, we reroll and try to get the server again? if the server "belongs" to Exile who must be blamed? Exile cause they are too strong atm? or their enemy who have been too weak?
And for the "belong to Exile". We made something for more than one year what do you hope? that we give you all our castle, clan halls, we reroll and try to get the server again? if the server "belongs" to Exile who must be blamed? Exile cause they are too strong atm? or their enemy who have been too weak?
Don't talk as if you where a member of Exile 1year ago. I doubt more then 30 of the current exile members where at the first Giran seige.
The thing is TT, IA and Syn only fight to gother to have a good shoot at Exile. It would just look stupid if an alliance of 200 members run up to Aden and try take a castle from 450 people. It might aswell have been that Ia Tt and Syn all where fighting each other and then noone would ever seige exile.
If exile split in two there would have been 5-6 equally strong sides instead of 2. This would indeed have made the server alot more interesting.
Unless TT+IA+Syndicate zerg would decide to still keep on attacking Exile/Split Exile and keep together.
Well that would proboly happen for ~1 week before something happens that will cause a conflict. Many of the Tt, Ia, Syn members can't even speak to eachother because of language problems, do you really think they have high team spirit? Even during the short period I was in Defience I heared many ppl wanting to to Pk other alliances but respond useally was something along the lines with "don't touch them, we need them to help us with Exile"
I need more post count so i rant small scale...
I stick to my small scale PvP 1 vs 1 from time to time
mass scale PvP in LineageII fells like walking though Giran.
So i dont matter if its 10 people or 400. I cant see anyone of them anyways
I need more post count so i rant small scale...
I stick to my small scale PvP 1 vs 1 from time to time
mass scale PvP in LineageII fells like walking though Giran.
So i dont matter if its 10 people or 400. I cant see anyone of them anyways
I need more post count so i rant small scale...
I stick to my small scale PvP 1 vs 1 from time to time
mass scale PvP in LineageII fells like walking though Giran.
So i dont matter if its 10 people or 400. I cant see anyone of them anyways
To be under one alliance you'd need to disband 13 clans out of your 25 clans, and even then you wouldnt be able to fit all people in 1 alliance, as the max is 480 members and TT+IA+Syn has 645 members(last chobits counted from the community system).
Btw, the numbers are 450 Exile vs 645 TT+IA+Syn for all those who dont follow Blah.
To be under one alliance you'd need to disband 13 clans out of your 25 clans, and even then you wouldnt be able to fit all people in 1 alliance, as the max is 480 members and TT+IA+Syn has 645 members(last chobits counted from the community system).
Btw, the numbers are 450 Exile vs 645 TT+IA+Syn for all those who dont follow Blah.
on paper yes, in reality no these numbers are not true
Aye, in reality they're smaller for both sides as getting that many people online at the same time is nigh impossible thanks to timezones, work, school and whatnot.
can someone plz change the title of this thread to
Teon is no longer belong to Exile
This Eastern was a gladly day for Teon since the Mighty Exile LOST Aden .. even though they had the advantage of not only defending, but also having 5 of the 6 clanhalls there
and on the next day they even lost Gludio
so now they only posess Goddardh, whitch castle the Ally that took Aden, let go of and didnt even try to defend it when exile attacked
And your point is? They're still the single, most powerful alliance on the server. It took 3 alliances +a number of random clans to even take a castle from them.
And your point is? They're still the single, most powerful alliance on the server. It took 3 alliances +a number of random clans to even take a castle from them.
Yeah but its easier to defend than attack, I could see an alliance like IA (for example) succesfully defending aden without the help of any other ally. This might be the begining of the end for exile but I severely doubt it.
And your point is? They're still the single, most powerful alliance on the server. It took 3 alliances +a number of random clans to even take a castle from them.
A castle ... you mean 3 castle in 2 siegeweekends and that 3Ally vs 1 Ally is a badly used excuse
it was in numbers almost identical at the siege ... the 3 ally was maybe 50 more
wonder what a bookmaker had set for odds on that siege:
You actually think they defended Gludio with passion? :P
Even if the odds were just 50 people difference thats already a big chunck. But then you'd need to add in MDK, Equire and all the other fanboys out there. Those boost the numbers alot more than U2.
Exile didnt have their leader present at the start of the siege, they were unorganized and that combined with enemy forces that outnumber you usually leads to defeat.
As long as Exile is out there and needs 3 other alliances to keep it in check, they are the most dominant ally on the server.
LOL, Antharas. They've done it without U2/PC too, and can do it even now. If they'd just call more people there they wouldnt need U2 at all, but as it is now they can go there with 150 people and kill the lizard. Unlike TT/IA/Syndicate zerg which failed with 300 people, so GG there.
You actually think they defended Gludio with passion? :P
Even if the odds were just 50 people difference thats already a big chunck. But then you'd need to add in MDK, Equire and all the other fanboys out there. Those boost the numbers alot more than U2.
Exile didnt have their leader present at the start of the siege, they were unorganized and that combined with enemy forces that outnumber you usually leads to defeat.
As long as Exile is out there and needs 3 other alliances to keep it in check, they are the most dominant ally on the server.
LOL, Antharas. They've done it without U2/PC too, and can do it even now. If they'd just call more people there they wouldnt need U2 at all, but as it is now they can go there with 150 people and kill the lizard. Unlike TT/IA/Syndicate zerg which failed with 300 people, so GG there.
how many alliances did exile need to fell untamed? that's right.. 4. in addition to kiss *** clans and farmers. i seriously fail to see your point.
and i fail to see the point in exile's whining about zergs. when exile is down to 200 people, and anti-exile brings 800, *maybe* then they can whine about zergs. till then, they're whining about the same [censored] that they did before.
they can do antharas without U2/PC? where? i havent seen it in C4.
seriously, charmille, when did you become such an exile fanboy? you ought to clean that brown off your nose, it really looks pretty bad.
I'm not a fanboy of either side, for all I care they could all quit L2, would save most of Teon from all the [censored] and would also get rid of a big chunk of unlegit players at the same time.
I'm being neutral, and that involves more than just looking what 1 side says. I've been running at the Aden siege field many times, and the last 2 sieges Exile got _zerged_.
If you think that 2 parties of nukers matters much when the alliance could muster over 300 people, then you're just not ready to accept the facts. Exile has all the firepower and manpower to take Anthy alone if they so choose to, but apparently they like to deal with U2 more.
Even if the odds were just 50 people difference thats already a big chunck. But then you'd need to add in MDK, Equire and all the other fanboys out there. Those boost the numbers alot more than U2.
But not in lvl ~ and doing Anthy, raids and holding castles with the aid of farmers...is kinda sad.
I'm not a fanboy of either side, for all I care they could all quit L2, would save most of Teon from all the [censored] and would also get rid of a big chunk of unlegit players at the same time.
I'm being neutral, and that involves more than just looking what 1 side says. I've been running at the Aden siege field many times, and the last 2 sieges Exile got _zerged_.
If you think that 2 parties of nukers matters much when the alliance could muster over 300 people, then you're just not ready to accept the facts. Exile has all the firepower and manpower to take Anthy alone if they so choose to, but apparently they like to deal with U2 more.
tbh your posts yell "I Want to join Exile tomorrow!"
If you think that 2 parties of nukers matters much when the alliance could muster over 300 people, then you're just not ready to accept the facts. Exile has all the firepower and manpower to take Anthy alone if they so choose to, but apparently they like to deal with U2 more.
You have never been on an Antharas-raid ---- thats for sure
2 partys with lvl70 nukers = 100 melee/archers (just a figure to show importance of nukers)
last time i was on anty i was a lvl62 with aqua-spells doing around 150-300damage per spell (and lots of failure)(and without BD-dances), when the lvl70+ archern did around 50damage a shot
then take a lvl70+ SH that uses wind attacks (that anthy is weak against)
and i think even you could realize how much help 10-20 lvl70+ SH do, when raiding Antharas.
And even a bigger aspect .. having 10-20 lvl70+ nukers that it doesnt matter how many times they die (it only saves time to delevel later) makes a HUGE difference.
You have never been on an Antharas-raid ---- thats for sure
2 partys with lvl70 nukers = 100 melee/archers (just a figure to show importance of nukers)
last time i was on anty i was a lvl62 with aqua-spells doing around 150-300damage per spell (and lots of failure)(and without BD-dances), when the lvl70+ archern did around 50damage a shot
then take a lvl70+ SH that uses wind attacks (that anthy is weak against)
and i think even you could realize how much help 10-20 lvl70+ SH do, when raiding Antharas.
And even a bigger aspect .. having 10-20 lvl70+ nukers that it doesnt matter how many times they die (it only saves time to delevel later) makes a HUGE difference.
And you think that Exile doesnt have enough nukers of their own? Ofcourse they could get 2 groups more of their own nukers, but that then again takes more organizing. It's much easier to use farmers who work like machines and are always ready. It's smarter to use the farmers, as you realise too. They do good dmg and using them minimizes the exp loss to your own alliance. If you think completely logically, thats what everyone should be doing = minimizing own losses and making the raid go faster and easier. Then again, you can think of the consequences of allying with farmers...
Exile does the most logical thing, which also happens to be the one that most people despise - allying with farmers. You can blame them all you want for it, but any effective, calculating leader would understand that it is the smartest thing to do if you only look at the raiding. If you then take also politics into account, it turns rather ugly since allying with farmers is never something that others like. In a sense, mauluz valued fast and succesfull anthy raids more than the public opinion and thats gotten him a fair share of enemies dont you agree?
I very well know what Anthy is weak against and how melees got _no_ purpose to be there. I also know the former tactics, and the new tactics. All I need to do is chat in IRC with some friends from Bartz since they got no problems doing him and they've been doing it with small numbers.
deg, I dont wanna join ShadowS T_T (they got room, or so I have been told lol)
Btw, both sides are as bad. Exile allies with Farmers while the counter zerg has IC+former LE members. And lets not forget the recent Dance of Medusa exploiting either. Or how Bat puts alliances on KOS cos he didnt want us to siege, just like Exile did before.
Both sides are equally dirty, and I personally hope that they all split up. Exile could break into 2 alliances and the counter zerg could break up too. Would be much better for the server when there is no single dominating faction.