con vs bleed

ok it was my understanding that con effected the land rate of bleed
if thats true why do dwarfs get cure bleed?

mobs where i hunt land bleed about 90% of the time (-4 con)
surely no other class has con as high as dwarfs so is it possible to lvl there without an se?

also off topic abit but theres a mage dye dorfs are meant to get
int-wit maybe?
what are the benefits of it and what are the drawbacks

thx for any help in advance

Orc fighters have higher con than dwarves, and destroyers atleast get Bandage skill too(Cure Bleed)

Dont remember which mental tat it was but it was for raising resistance against sleep etc.

Mobs are ignoring everything, so why wonder?

Mental Shield 4 + Magic Barrier + Song of Warding and
a 40ish toon still gets sleeped by same level mobs that
don't use SpS...

Mobs are ignoring everything, so why wonder?

Mental Shield 4 + Magic Barrier + Song of Warding and
a 40ish toon still gets sleeped by same level mobs that
don't use SpS...

yeah i made a post about this a month or so back
basically mobs 7 lvls lower than me were landing stun 95% of the time
as for slow root sleep poison cancel well im a dwarf i expect those to land

just wish my con would buy me some survivability against bleed and stun
i mean im a dwarf what else do i get?


any word on that mage tat yet?

also off topic abit but theres a mage dye dorfs are meant to get
int-wit maybe?
what are the benefits of it and what are the drawbacks

The benefit of -int +wit for a dwarf is a small boost in resitance to sleep, root and a few other debuffs

party with a AW or PW, that should give you a hint about how good your con is (those skills land on them like every single time). As for bandage, an emergency dressing is cheap, instant, and consumes no mp, buy a few form the store. (personally I only use bandage to make ppl ask :P )

-int +wit offers some improved protection vs sleep, root and some other debuffs. I dont know exactly how much it affects the %, but its free, since dwarves have not a single skill that needs M.Attk. (p.s.: dont buy the expensive mammon dyes, +4wit -5int dyes from store are much cheaper and just as good, since int is useless to us)

Umm, what lvl of bleed can the emergency dressing cure >.> I remember them not being able to cure the high lvl bleeds, but gotta check that.

Anyway, Bandersnatches at Walls of Argos give bleed 8, and even with -con I usually resist it while ES gets it almost every time. Also, I'm much less stun prone even if I've gone -con with my tats and armor so it does help.

Umm, what lvl of bleed can the emergency dressing cure >.> I remember them not being able to cure the high lvl bleeds, but gotta check that.

up to lvl 7

my bleed cure does up to 9 but cost 55 mp so it still sucks

so no skill is effected by wit?
if i - my wit i wont get poisoned or paraed easier?
could it be true that this tat is as free and con - str for nukers?

about stun mobs use special stun (mob stun) that lands more than shield stun. Resist stun+doom and they still have pretty decent chance to land it.

I suppose the same applies to bleed. Seems root/hold is fixed because mental shield indeed helps against.

So, if emergency dressing is up to lvl 7 it is of no use at Wall of Argos since mobs give lvl 8 bleed. And higher lvl sting has higher bleed lvl too ;)

Emergency dressing is like greater antidote to me then = no value since they wont help anyway.

Yes, Player's bleed max is 8 as well.
Emergency dressing and dtox potions were done when chars maxed at lvl 65...

Ye, luckily I got bandage skill but it eats mp T_T and it doesnt help other classes so they either suffer the bleed or get a healer along.

Yes, Player's bleed max is 8 as well.
Emergency dressing and dtox potions were done when chars maxed at lvl 65...

when classes start getting cure sleep root para and stun as self skills then expect bleed cure in a can

i think its meant as a way to balance pvp you dont want ppl carrying around a potion that just cures your main skill everytime you use it

and it doesnt help other classes so they either suffer the bleed....

lol bleed takes off 1k hp dont think many classes will just stand there and take that

Nah, lvl 8 bleed takes around 400hp from me, no big deal. And I can cure it if I want with bandage skill but imho thats waste of mp that I can use for Fatal Strike and VS in pve. And I regen/heal back with VR anyway so doesnt matter to me. But a BD is screwed it :(