No one said we think WLE are hardcore, although fighting 30+ of them with only 6 of us is quite fun, which is what he ACTUALLY meant. Why do people insist on posting flamefests? Its just like people think Beer was absolutely serious about the 30 clan war thing, my god its a game, he was having fun with it and people get all OMG OMG OMG over little comments lol.
And DW likes fair and fun PvP... hey, we'll even fight a WLE zerg, and these guys don't kid around. I liked that fight, eventhough we had no chance of beating them in the end. Why? because they don't grief us into a war.
"Those guys dont kid around" That would imply that you would think they where "Hardcore" because hardcore people dont kid around but thats besides the point.
I can direct you to exactly where that post is if you like.
Vandano are you ready to 1v1 me without recalling? You guys setup gank squads, you don't pvp. You "zerg" as you like to call it. You have many players 76+ and you pursue my guys at Forbidden Gateway with those chars lol. I think it's funny that when I actually find PK out xping we school you guys in a 9 v 9. It's when you have 5 76+ attacking 6-7 barely 60+ that you win.
Anyway... I'm having fun, everyone is saying "GF" after pvp except you. Cheers ^^
Sounds like some one got there head handed to them :confused: Lets all stop and cry with him. Weep, sniff, weep, weep. Feel better? Ok 1 more cry Weep weep weep sniff weep! baby!
Sounds like some one got there head handed to them :confused: Lets all stop and cry with him. Weep, sniff, weep, weep. Feel better? Ok 1 more cry Weep weep weep sniff weep! baby!
Im not going to quote cause frankly im to lazy, Just try to follow.
How is it us going after lowbies when there is 4 of us standing next to and flagging on your RAID GROUP!!! You get ressed after the raid boss rocked you (didnt even get to the main boss) and you come after us... Atleast 30 to umm MAYBE a group by the end. We proceed to gather 100+ pvps... Kammy kites Solidarity, TreUnity, and NM 30+ of them and racks up a whopping 26 pvps before both mobs and the rest of the people catch up to him with no mp.
All is fine and good being a PVE clan in a game entirly based on PVP but dont come after our 4 people with your 30 get rolled and claim that "Oh your lvl 76 where just lvl 60 of course you can take us 10 to 1"
Now to adress that screenshot... I see 4 people dead on the floor from both sides... that was all of our force against all 9 of you... Sounds outnumbered to me. As far as me recalling, You should try to get your prophets straight I was not in that group it was another untagged prophet that was recalled to avoid getting involved in politics. So try again with your awsome screen shots.
"I never said you where kos"
Granted the words "Your KOS" never where spoken but the "You will fear the consequences for your actions" and "Give that back or else" or perhaps "You will be kos to our alliance If you do that again... We do it again for the hopes of a kos"
Dare i go further? I think i made the point
But we still do not fear taking on your 30 person zergs (With pleny of high levels)
Well thats all i have to say it is now 4 In the morning and im tired
Good Night :D
And DW likes fair and fun PvP... hey, we'll even fight a WLE zerg, and these guys don't kid around. I liked that fight, eventhough we had no chance of beating them in the end. Why? because they don't grief us into a war.
"Those guys dont kid around" That would imply that you would think they where "Hardcore" because hardcore people dont kid around but thats besides the point.
I can direct you to exactly where that post is if you like.
Continue with the votes
"those guys don't kid around" implies that they do bring a LOT of players. Which is fine, it's all GF and stuff after we win or loose... (I'm not saying WLE isn't hardcore, there's a few real good PvP and PvE players in that alliance. Also some real good friends of mine.)
You're the one that flagged on me, you were alone... I figured I'd get ganked if I flagged on you, but I did it anyways... (I'm not ******ed, tyvm.) Of course I'm right on this one, and xnoobzillax ganks me... He was untagged at the time, and on his lvl 75 Necro... GG there bro!
And then there's the time that I got dropped (the guy went red on me) by one of 7 (!) lvl 70+'s... your lvl 76-ish players are ussually scouting FG, looking for easy kills...
It's also funny how the guy that can't kill anything other than some lowbies comes here and tries to flame. I don't see REDVII or Donchoplin posting here about how they OWNED us, eventhough it's them that's doing the actual killing. You just hide behind them.
As Beer already said, you are the only one that doesn't know how to say "GF". I bet you play with your teeth clenched and you kick your cat/sister when you get killed... (Ow wait, you never die, since you recall when things get rough!)
I remember just fine what I posted, it's you that doesn't understand what I meant... and taking that as your sig is just hilarious. Please change that, because anyone who read this should know exactly what I mean by "those guys don't kid around".
quit crying about us looking for pvp. you're playing a pvp game, so either stand up or quit.
or petition them to get banned because they pose an idol threat. that seems to work on this server.
dont wish for people to quit. that really doesnt solve a **** thing. just makes you look more like an [censored] than a respectable player. too many people have either quit or got banned because of idiots that rant and rave or **** that really doesnt matter and take it to a personal level.
people need to really not take things personally. set up some 9v9s or schedule a mass pvp then talk about that because no one can say that wasnt "fair" then that'd most likely end with more positives than negatives for both sides.
Looking for PvP isn't ganking people 10 lvls below you.
Go talk to synergy or NM if you're convinced you're THAT good.
You all keep saying that but we have many times come to you guys outnumbered 3+ to 1 (us being outnumbered) and have still wanted to PVP you often with good result. You can say 10 lvls lower bla bla bla but 10 lvls is nothing when you ahve us beat 3 to 1.... and so what if where wondering around looking for people to kill and we stumble upon 4 of you xping. We kill those 4 and your 30 show up we kill your 30 with our 4 and you complain that where higher lvls.
And I appologize for calling Solidarity a clan when in fact they are an alliance. To me and everyone else they seem to be more of a clan with different names since there all always together.
I pick Section One! OMG they suck at PVP, but mobs fear them in PVE. They have every mob on Gustin on KOS. They launch wars across the continent. The other day I swear the Silenos Commanders near Goddard quaked in their mighty boots when they saw S1 buffing nearby.
must make you feel like a pretty big man bringing something irelevant to the game into a conversation. Why dont you mature a little more and contribute something a little more productive to the topic. kk?
must make you feel like a pretty big man bringing something irelevant to the game into a conversation. Why dont you mature a little more and contribute something a little more productive to the topic. kk?
Shall i say the same to you. I do not believe that thread had anything todo with the topic. If you intend to belittle someone perhaps you should do it on a more personal basis instead of posting an irrelevant post about someones irrelivatn post. kk?
At least now I have a hero... Your so powerful VANDANO, Can you please instill us with some more of your wisdom? We clearly see you are the most powerful. There is no need of you taking so much space to say it on the forum, you can clearly see everyone knows that... In fact, why do you still play? You clearly dont have anything that pose a serious threat to your incredible skills.
Even your attemps at making other alliances ventrilo crash are working perfectly. The way xNoobzillaX log and unlog reapeatedly is superb. We <3 you guys. Keep up the good work!
Looking for PvP isn't ganking people 10 lvls below you.
Go talk to synergy or NM if you're convinced you're THAT good.
You all keep saying that but we have many times come to you guys outnumbered 3+ to 1 (us being outnumbered) and have still wanted to PVP you often with good result. You can say 10 lvls lower bla bla bla but 10 lvls is nothing when you ahve us beat 3 to 1.... and so what if where wondering around looking for people to kill and we stumble upon 4 of you xping. We kill those 4 and your 30 show up we kill your 30 with our 4 and you complain that where higher lvls.
And I appologize for calling Solidarity a clan when in fact they are an alliance. To me and everyone else they seem to be more of a clan with different names since there all always together.
Ok, so let's get this straight Vandano. You are picking a fight with 30+ people because you KNOW you can win. They are telling you blatantly that even they are confident they can not beat you, yet you attack them anyway. You won't fight Nightmare who has equal levels, as you run everytime they stumble upon a DW vs PK pvp. Tell me it isn't true...
Killing 30 people that prefer PvE takes a supreme PvP champion, your clan leader must be proud. Don't worry though, there is a level cap, and we will all catch your levels soon enough. I just think it's funny that the weakest link of PK (a prophet) is the one talking the most... Post your PvP/PK Vandano.
Moderator, I demand some sort of repremand for this kid attacking Tiffers in real life. That's uncalled for, unacceptable, and against forum rules.
I shall post my pvp PK of 126/10 un-padded pvp scores. When we run from the "NM DW groups" its it purely a strategy that strings you out and works perfectly every single time. In our running we end up turning around killing atleast half of your 2 groups to our few people.
As far as us knowing we can win, We dont go into a pvp hoping to whipe the floor and stand over bodies. We go into pvp in hopes of taking down atleast as many of them as they do us not about taking everyone out but if that happens so be it.
AS far as a prophet being the weakest link in a pvp. Beer how many pvp's have you been in where both you and your golem where rooted the whole time useless as a box of rocks with alot of hp. Ask your daggers and tanks and all your melees how useless they are with root on them. Its not about the pvp score on the prophet its about being a support class. Its about rooting healing and buffing for your clan to be able to do the dmg and you to keep the damage off of them.
I can clearly see you know your pvp thinking that my pvp score is what would make me an important link to a clan. Without all the necessary parts you cant pvp. You dont pvp without prophet buffs, You dont raid without tanks, You dont stun with root on you.
Moderator, I demand some sort of repremand for this kid attacking Tiffers in real life. That's uncalled for, unacceptable, and against forum rules.
It was a legitmate question he never did state that in fact she was fat was just asking if it was just him or if other people seemed to think so. I believe he should feel free to express there opinion on a picture.
What if in fact the picture was not hers would it still be attacking her personaly or would it all just be a missunderstanding.
Please try again beer I can go all day
Remember InnerSanctum? You guys were a real good pvp clan, RC killed you ty~
Yes RC did kill us with harveys crew and all those lvl 75's that joined but whatever we ended the war they all dropped and we continued to kill you all and we still had fun.
I dont mind dieing ever I will stick with whoever is in my pvp group till they die. I get a 50% clan hall res and i wont back down. Returning from a sure death is innevitable if in fact my group went down. Return is a skill I get perhaps I should flame you all for using vamp claw when you get low or bishops using heal to avoid dieing for now reason.
I appologize for the multiple posts but i get yelled at when i edit posts and dont mention it so id rather just repost.
Looking for PvP isn't ganking people 10 lvls below you.
Go talk to synergy or NM if you're convinced you're THAT good.
You all keep saying that but we have many times come to you guys outnumbered 3+ to 1 (us being outnumbered) and have still wanted to PVP you often with good result. You can say 10 lvls lower bla bla bla but 10 lvls is nothing when you ahve us beat 3 to 1.... and so what if where wondering around looking for people to kill and we stumble upon 4 of you xping. We kill those 4 and your 30 show up we kill your 30 with our 4 and you complain that where higher lvls.
And I appologize for calling Solidarity a clan when in fact they are an alliance. To me and everyone else they seem to be more of a clan with different names since there all always together.
Ok, so let's get this straight Vandano. You are picking a fight with 30+ people because you KNOW you can win. They are telling you blatantly that even they are confident they can not beat you, yet you attack them anyway. You won't fight Nightmare who has equal levels, as you run everytime they stumble upon a DW vs PK pvp. Tell me it isn't true...
Killing 30 people that prefer PvE takes a supreme PvP champion, your clan leader must be proud. Don't worry though, there is a level cap, and we will all catch your levels soon enough. I just think it's funny that the weakest link of PK (a prophet) is the one talking the most... Post your PvP/PK Vandano.
Moderator, I demand some sort of repremand for this kid attacking Tiffers in real life. That's uncalled for, unacceptable, and against forum rules.
1. synergy is our friends, and we do fight Nightmare.
2. if she doesnt want RL brought into forums why would she post her picture?
3. in the earlier post your own clan memeber said 30 vs 6 is fun so your allowed to do it but no one else?
4. if you have problems with us killing you when we run by you dont war us in the first place.
5. were you comparing your pvp count to a prophet.... lol
6. and if its lvls you think gives u the advantage im 61 and between Dirty Work, Nightmare and soldarity that day i got 16 pvps in that 20 minute period.
oh and we dont run from nightmare we kite them. see when we kite them we pull them apart and its breaks them down. its a pvp skill you use when your out numbered. you should try it next time your having "Fun" against 30 WLE
must make you feel like a pretty big man bringing something irelevant to the game into a conversation. Why dont you mature a little more and contribute something a little more productive to the topic. kk?
then she shouldn't have used a photograph of her as her avatar if she didn't want people to judge her.
pvp is fun++++++
we fight everyone and anywhere we fight whit the numbers we have 1 or 2 or 6 dosent matter we ge tganked but dont yell we gank but dont yell, our opponets gank and yell our opponets get ganked and yell, we defend our self, my pvp is going up and up for each day i play each day i get ganked and i gank, when plz start trash talk i aint gonan shot up, when plplz cry when ganked i laugh when i get ganked 5 times day i get pretty pisty yes agreed, when we gank 1 grp they get ****** but well we use our tactis and u u use yours so what is the biog deal, and if we had to go for the lvls hmm who should we pvp then Nm lol we pvp em every singel day we gank we get ganked. no big deal.
Erby how the hell would you know what there around for. Havent seen you at a pvp in months against NM or any other clans for that matter. You seem to have alot ot say for someone who ahasnt grouped or xped with us in a very long time. Nevermind pvp in any way but against us.
Zvar ? isa ? you both agree with griefing low lvl clans?
dont think u are around for much of this anyway.
we belive in pvp
we do pvp
well that we are that high lvl is hard working from our side and i know low llv clans/players work as hard as we do for our lvls, but if they greif us or something like that yes i belive in pvp against low lvl clans, if they dont grief or something like that then my anshwer will be no i diont belive at it then, i belive in fair fights and i allmost every time go for fair fights unless iam tired off getting ganked, but any how war us and its ONLY 1% or .50% for a death so it does not matter that much anyways, if i get killed and loose 4% yeay then what so ever when its a fair fight i dont complain about it.
so yes i care about low lvl clan`s pvp i know how anyoing it is to get ganked, pked.
I would tend to disagree. If your going to claim that she has fought more NM then I have you ahve to take a look. Daily fights with nightmare go on in PeeKay, I may not be our top dmg dealer or a damage dealer at all but i am there for a good 80% of them. If i didnt pvp please tell me how im a lvl 75 prophet and ive been playing since OB.
I know you are trying to show a little empathy. Please tell your gaank squads to stop attacking lowbie people in FG just "for fun" when it's uncalled and unwanted. Thank you.
I know you are trying to show a little empathy. Please tell your gaank squads to stop attacking lowbie people in FG just "for fun" when it's uncalled and unwanted. Thank you.
hmmm have u ever seen me in those fights ??????
and i do NOT controll my clannies/ally`s the ydo what ever they want, if they pvp for fun against Nm or lowbies or whatever i do belive they deserve it......
atleats until i hear something diff, well i can only say have u ever seen me in those fights ????? hmm ok i thought so
Zvar ? isa ? you both agree with griefing low lvl clans?
dont think u are around for much of this anyway.
we belive in pvp
we do pvp
well that we are that high lvl is hard working from our side and i know low llv clans/players work as hard as we do for our lvls, but if they greif us or something like that yes i belive in pvp against low lvl clans, if they dont grief or something like that then my anshwer will be no i diont belive at it then, i belive in fair fights and i allmost every time go for fair fights unless iam tired off getting ganked, but any how war us and its ONLY 1% or .50% for a death so it does not matter that much anyways, if i get killed and loose 4% yeay then what so ever when its a fair fight i dont complain about it.
so yes i care about low lvl clan`s pvp i know how anyoing it is to get ganked, pked.
it's only 1% on paper. Don't forget the fact if you guys make daily runs on the best exp spots (cemetery for example) they tend to stop going there. They lose more exp over time than you think. Also money on potions and porting. Do you think all the people in A-EAA quit/left/changed sides because of 4% in their 40's - 50's? 4% isn't much for their levels as well. When you're level 50 and you get level 70+'s killing you daily it gets discouraging. Not because they "lose 1%" but because at that level they can't do anything about it.
Zvar ? isa ? you both agree with griefing low lvl clans?
dont think u are around for much of this anyway.
we belive in pvp
we do pvp
well that we are that high lvl is hard working from our side and i know low llv clans/players work as hard as we do for our lvls, but if they greif us or something like that yes i belive in pvp against low lvl clans, if they dont grief or something like that then my anshwer will be no i diont belive at it then, i belive in fair fights and i allmost every time go for fair fights unless iam tired off getting ganked, but any how war us and its ONLY 1% or .50% for a death so it does not matter that much anyways, if i get killed and loose 4% yeay then what so ever when its a fair fight i dont complain about it.
so yes i care about low lvl clan`s pvp i know how anyoing it is to get ganked, pked.
it's only 1% on paper. Don't forget the fact if you guys make daily runs on the best exp spots (cemetery for example) they tend to stop going there. They lose more exp over time than you think. Also money on potions and porting. Do you think all the people in A-EAA quit/left/changed sides because of 4% in their 40's - 50's? 4% isn't much for their levels as well. When you're level 50 and you get level 70+'s killing you daily it gets discouraging. Not because they "lose 1%" but because at that level they can't do anything about it.
just my 2 cents.
well then teh yshould stop flaming/griefing on us if they dident do it in the first place do u realy think we whould go kill em ?
hmm i dont think so
Zvar ? isa ? you both agree with griefing low lvl clans?
dont think u are around for much of this anyway.
we belive in pvp
we do pvp
well that we are that high lvl is hard working from our side and i know low llv clans/players work as hard as we do for our lvls, but if they greif us or something like that yes i belive in pvp against low lvl clans, if they dont grief or something like that then my anshwer will be no i diont belive at it then, i belive in fair fights and i allmost every time go for fair fights unless iam tired off getting ganked, but any how war us and its ONLY 1% or .50% for a death so it does not matter that much anyways, if i get killed and loose 4% yeay then what so ever when its a fair fight i dont complain about it.
so yes i care about low lvl clan`s pvp i know how anyoing it is to get ganked, pked.
it's only 1% on paper. Don't forget the fact if you guys make daily runs on the best exp spots (cemetery for example) they tend to stop going there. They lose more exp over time than you think. Also money on potions and porting. Do you think all the people in A-EAA quit/left/changed sides because of 4% in their 40's - 50's? 4% isn't much for their levels as well. When you're level 50 and you get level 70+'s killing you daily it gets discouraging. Not because they "lose 1%" but because at that level they can't do anything about it.
just my 2 cents.
well then teh yshould stop flaming/griefing on us if they dident do it in the first place do u realy think we whould go kill em ?
hmm i dont think so
It is true that I never see you or isa in FG, and I'm very happy about that, since you are probably the only two players in your clan I still respect. (I did meet you guys in Hot springs a few times, and if I remember correctly, I sold you a cheap B-rez for Isa and buffed you.)
The terms of this war, right when C4 came out, were that we would have a "friendly" war. Where you say hi to eachother when you run into eachother and are free to PvP if both feel like it. (Like me and Red did at the start. Kabblem jumped Zvardag, but he stopped when I asked him to.)
But you do have to get your head straight. We didn't start this flaming. Beer ended the war when he saw your clan griefed ours. Then we got ganked some more. We declared back so we wouldn't loose the 4%. Then VANDANO started THIS thread. So who's doing the flaming? If you look at the title of the thread you're posing in, and read the poster's name you'll know.
To address Tiffer's looks/voice/personality... I know her best from the last two, and those are VERY cool :) she sounds sweet and is always in for a lil joke or laugh. And I liked her christmas cards :)
And good post from that guy that said we fought 30 WLE. You are right, but the difference lies in the relentless ganking and griefing your clan does. We tend not to go after lowbies. (I was REALLY tempted when I got killed while AFK, but I PM'ed the guy/girl and killed her once. He/She said sorry and I am confident he/she won't kill people while they're afk again. I was in HC at the time, so I didn't expect a higher lvl WLE to come get me there :P I wouldn't go AFK in FG, because I know for a fact I'd be killed by PeeKay.)
Then for this whole flaming and stuff, I'm gonna stop posting on this thread, since it seems rather pointless. Vandano won't stop believing we're a horible PvP clan. And I won't stop saying he's an idiot prophet that hides behind 3rd class changed DD's. (I won't say anything about your real life qualities or mistakes, although I did post something about that earlier, I believe. Soz about that.)
I know you are trying to show a little empathy. Please tell your gaank squads to stop attacking lowbie people in FG just "for fun" when it's uncalled and unwanted. Thank you.
is this guy for real?
someone needs to go back to EQ2
hmm, if vandano think attacking ppl while fighting a raid or high mobs to grief em is pvp, then i feel sorry for him ...
peekay = bunch of creeps ... w/o honor
hmm, if vandano think attacking ppl while fighting a raid or high mobs to grief em is pvp, then i feel sorry for him ...
peekay = bunch of creeps ... w/o honor
hmmm u taking that out from Vandano only or how many u know off us ????
what do u realy know about our clan hmm that vandano talks alot orr hmm welli like vanadano alot and my clan is the greatest on the server.
what do u realy know about us ?
I know you are trying to show a little empathy. Please tell your gaank squads to stop attacking lowbie people in FG just "for fun" when it's uncalled and unwanted. Thank you.
is this guy for real?
someone needs to go back to EQ2
Girl my darling, girl. I am not a guy.
And I never played EQ2.
You admit you attack lower level people "because this is pvp game" and "because they cannot pvp and we can pwn their ***". And then laugh when we bring more people.
*sigh*
Funny, isn't it?
You admit you attack lower level people "because this is pvp game" and "because they cannot pvp and we can pwn their ***". And then laugh when we bring more people.
*sigh*
Funny, isn't it?
wow this is something new a clan that seems to be winning all it's wars smack talking. and not all pk are grifers just the ones u see at lvl 76 hanging out at fg. i wonder what lvl range u expect to find there ;). i dont understand how some one who says there winning would start a thread like this. ur ganna try to make us look bad to the server? if that was the goal then u failed. there are nutule ppl telling ur cowrdly vandano.
and let me guess im crying wha bo ** T.T to right. so what, expresing an opinion diffent then ur's is crying? not agreeing with ur postes makes me a cry baby?.
in that screen shot there are 5 pk down and one proph that recalled. there is 6 of us + zurana who i gave bad direction and was not there (also notice his hp, cp, and mp are full).
and a clan that is good at pvp dose not mean alway winning, when we lose we dust ourselves of and come back out win or lose. even if redvii is frenzyed >< perseverance is another great assit in pvp. also notice in that pvp no smack talk from our side. to bad when we lose, the respect is not returned as shown in the threads u create.
and to attack some on personley is completly uncalled for nor dose it help u prove ur point in says we cant pvp. so what was the reasone for it then.
and who are u trying to convince were bad a pvp here?
lol noobzilla, why does everyone of your names have X's around it. you some kinda hardcore 4'5" asian kid e-thuggin on l2? Cuz ive seen that pic goin around in c2 or something of you lookin like a ********* survivor, hella starved, possibly 70 pounds, totally decked out with your headset on. its cute
"...if vandano think attacking ppl while fighting a raid or high mobs to grief em is pvp..."
If your implying he griefed you, what did he do, smack you with his aoba and then insta-return when he assist your target and hes back on himself? In the words of iono, hes a non-factor.
ok first this game is not strictly a pvp game if it was I wouldnt have to hit control to hit another player. Also if it was there wouldnt be any mobs, facts are it's a pve/pvp game, it's what you make it.
2nd we've never agressively acted towards PeeKay until theyve agressively attacked us. Zvar buddy facts are your clannies attacked us first. I dont hate peekay, there is 29 members the last time I checked the clan communtiy, it's always the same people who attack us. We're a pve alliance, we play to have fun with the game not to stroke our ego's by attacking people who are lower lvl than us. Facts are when you drop by a Solidarity member you KNOW you'll get it back. When youre in trouble and a Solidarity member is near by you KNOW if they can help they will. I know PeeKay is friends with Synergy pm Dweeb and ask him about BlackHowlings gear. He attacked us went red and we killed him and he dropped alot of gear. We returned it even when BlackHowling himself pmed me and told me we didnt have to. Why did we return it? Was it because we were afraid of the all powerful Outsiderz Clan and Synergy Alliance. Ummm No, we returned it because it was the right thing to do. We found out why he attacked because he was angry at losing his friends. There's something to be said about helping people and putting others in front of yourself. I really dont understand why members of PeeKay seem to have a problem with us, I dont think any of us have done anything but help them if they needed it. I know there are good people in PeeKay, Zvar, Isa, HoboManiac. Zvar buddy pm Aly or Snow, talk to them, I dont know what bunch of BS your clannies are telling you, we've never attacked them first, everytime we've attacked someone it's been because we were prevoked into doing it. And Im happy ive never seen you with them when theyve attacked us.
When did FG becoming a "lowbie" area, when you bring 4-6 lvl 76+ there to kill one or two lvl 56-65's thats when.
I have 2 final things to say.
1. Im glad i turned down the offer to join InnerSactum in C2, I could never follow someone like Anavar who seems to feed off of griefing others just to stroke his own ego he gets from playing a video game.
2. There is always someone bigger and stronger than you.
lol we did drop the war and u guys still went red on us. anavar got enough pkes that when we killed him he droped stuff. nothing valuble though. i think like his seal of the seven singes thing lol.
but that is what dav is refering to. we did drop the war and we still got pked by u guys. so ur suggested corse of action dosent seem to work we tryed ;)
i knowt here is both good and bad playes in every clans, even in Nm there is ncie pplz, and for the lowbies well first off all i ment it in general iff pplz grieff us or our ally we going to do somethign about it, all knows this, i have tons off friends in solidarity, long term friends and they know what i stand for if lets take an excamble u go red on me and i coem back and some how get lucky to kill and u drop your B-Dagger and your armor iam in person are the man to give it back to u, i knwo alot in ourt clan think like that allso.
personal opinion.
if a lowlvl try to grieff me and i tell him to stop and he dosent, ofc iam going to kill normal reaction i dont care if he is mage or what ever, if a high lvl mage keep stealing my mobs or grieff me and dont back off when i ask him to ofc i try to kill hiom even when we know the outcome off it pretty much since iam a tank, well i know tanks can kill pplz easy allso mages, nothign can stand in my way off trying.
well ask Nm guys if i bsoe from 3-5 off em i dont i even start attack on em, but well lol ofc i bsoe if they are 1 full party iam not that stupid lol.
at this point xp dosent realy matter well xp is good to get lol dont miss understandt it but well i knwo for a fact that our clan is all out pvp++++ and ithink all the server knows that by now :P
And I won't stop saying he's an idiot prophet that hides behind 3rd class changed DD's. (I won't say anything about your real life qualities or mistakes, although I did post something about that earlier, I believe. Soz about that.)
nuff said.
Excellent post, It has become clear to me that nobody understands a prophets role in pvp. Perhaps it is the severe lack of active pvp prophets left on the server. If you would like me to go out into a pvp with my -8 str and DC robes on and expect to solo an archer or a mage, Fine I will and when my hp gets low i will return. Why do you ask? cause thats one of my skills so i should be able to use it at my discression when i am in a losing battle.
Let me explain 1 more time what it is for a prophet to do in pvp...Or rather what they should not do in my opinion and the opinion of my clan alliance and the others I respect.
A prophet who is on the battle field running up to people and attacking them with there +4 AOBA(health) is doing the wrong thing. This should only be done in 2 situations.
1. The prophet is making an attempt to go red because he/she has lesser pvps the her comrads.
2. They are attempting to keep someone in combat perhaps another prophet or healer till his dmg dealer comrads enter the area.
Another prophet dont. The prophet should be the last one to remain in a pvp excluding the following situations.
1.The last person left standing is a healer(or another prophet in some cases) and cannot do ample enough dmg to subdue the enemys.
2. The prophets mp is dried out with only enough to cast a return and/or there dmg dealer(s) are unable to attack for whatever reason it may be.
Those are just 2 i can think of right now. As i think of more i will surely post them.
Now onto the real discussion
Mission accomplished is all i have to say.
Man, I love how serious and ****** off people get at a post on the message boards. I am often asked "Why do you make posts like this on the boards" my answer is always "I want to watch how angry people get when arguing with themselves", something to pass the time perhaps.
Everyone state the fact that "They are a clan that just wants to lvl". Explain to me how 80% of the highest lvls on this server are in the top pvp clans, your leveling no pvp strategies are clearly owning us. Dont say its because your guys are new and you just want to get to the high levels cause there are atleast 50+ old school players in the carebear clans that arent 75 or near 75.
Now... Go Go get ****** and scream and yell at me and try to kill me in game all you want... I welcome it.
I can see that a lvl 76+ need to get some kill a lowbe to feel better. You must realy miss TI in C2 to be going back to this. PVP points are that big of a deal for a prophets. Thank god there is no such thing as a screanshot to say he realy dose have It 15billion pvp/ 10 pks for a prophet. Thank god you cant tell what lvl the pvp is with. Do you still camp in newbe towns? Go back to the Newbe town and flag away again. Have to raise that PVP count!! Oww ya it still wont make you a man but time will. :-)
My point, FG for that lvl is just a Noplian complex stuff, and of all things a prophet with it thats just funny. If you dont know what that is wait till you go to School after high school. ;) http://www.break.com/index/patiencechild.html Happy Happy Joy Joy Feelings Young Vandano!
Someone really has to explain to me what attacking the pvp score of a prophet does. I will admint i ahvent gotten a pvp from lets say soloing a spellhowler for a long time. But i have pvped many people whilst being a prophet and i have won many times. Go out and ask a bishop how many pvp's he has or perhaps an SE or EE about his pvp score. If those classes are wasting there time running up to daggers meleeing them with there awsome 400 patk with a bow they're playing there class wrong and hope they never pvp with me.
I have been playing L2 since OB ive been involved in some way with thousands of kills (not my kills but by support) weather it be buffing the party or being there healer i was still involved. We pvp almost constantly without a real healer other then me. Tell me how many times your party has targeted a single person and you see the beams of light coming out from them... Thats not elemental heal. Explain to me the last time you went to a pvp self buffed and never requested the assistance of a buffer.
There are many roles in this game some gain you the glory of having that hit for 2.5k dmg and having 500+ pvp score by C4. Others have the glory of assisting in getting that person there 500+ pvp score and them requesting you to go to everyone of there pvps because they want you to keep them alive or to buff or to root or whatever it may be.
If you would like to persist in the attacking of my pvp score go right ahead. Its only a generalization of past events recorded to represent skill of 1 base of the whole pvp aspect. You dont go to a pvp without buffs and I play the role of that support class as well as that of a healer and rooter not of a damage dealer. Damage dealers dont -8 STR and wear DC robes.
no. fg is strictly for those lvls in the range of the mobs. if you are ever there and you happen to be higher or lower, you will be banned from the game because it's strictly for those levels only.
go ahead and cry "my clan is at war with your clan but don't kill me because i'm lower level than you and you might hurt my xp." alternatively, you could come to our vent and cry to us about being at war with you (silent wizards) and then the next day when 3 people (necro, se, sws) run up to your party (5 or more in the same lvl range)... log out or bsoe. COOL PEOPLES!
Why do you ask? cause thats one of my skills so i should be able to use it at my discression when i am in a losing battle.
Use it often? Oh and for the record the whole para thing HaHa did to you was one of his skillz. And he used it at his discression to para the first target he got when getting ganked by we'll say more then one person. Oh wait here it comes "...well it was near a mob and it almost killed me." hmmm sad to hear the other ppl in your party would let that happen to a fellow clan mate. Also I guess the mobs he was hunting didn't count when you "assisted" in attacking him. Guess you figured the swift kill would be safe enuff.
Mission accomplished is all i have to say.
Man, I love how serious and ****** off people get at a post on the message boards. I am often asked "Why do you make posts like this on the boards" my answer is always "I want to watch how angry people get when arguing with themselves", something to pass the time perhaps.
wow what a sad little man u must be. someone give van a hug. he's dead on the inside. :confused: if you think that I get upset by this thread, ha I dont. Maybe its just the voices in your head that makes everyones typing seem angry to you. Lets try this, read this paragraph and see if you're filled with rage afterward.
But do it while think of a purple tele-tubby.
"Ride a ****-horse to Banbury Cross,
To see a fine lady upon a white horse;
With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes
She shall have music wherever she goes."
Did that stir up some demons, hatred, anger perhaps? It just makes me laugh, and makes me realize that no matter how crappy my life is. Atleast I'm not you. Kinda like grouphug.us maybe you should go post your problem van. Yeah, maybe thats just what you need ;)
Just on a note could care less about this [censored] session but if a Prophet or Elven Elder uses Pr or Recall and constitutes that as a use of a skill and on one should complian then my killing mobs with my skills and earning my self adena to buy BSOE should count also.
I am saying this for every one not trying to solo any one out. And I dont BSOE for the record. If you have screen shot of me bsoeing in PVP feel free to post them. I am just saying WHO CARES ABOUT recall or BSOE or w/e its a part of the game either hit harder and faster sleep or stunn them then they cant. Its the same as peopel crying about pot use in PVP its part of the game. Why else would it be there.
lol vandono if feel ur pain in pvp lol i have aoe stun and like 900 p.att buffed :(.
but the orginal post topic and what ur talking about now are 2 diffrent things. so what have u accpmlished in this post besided making ur self look bad? even clans not invovled said u use cowerdly tatics to pvp and when it come down to group pvp we do hold our own.
if u posted to make us angry or ****** u faild we are not angry or upset. it just funny how the only persone from pk that really talks smack is u.
if u did post to try and prove the point the thread topic is on . then u also failed. other clans not at war with us say u use cowerdly tatics. and grief ppl into pvp.
so i fail to see were ur mission is won or what ever. u made ur self look bad and have made no one angry or upset. i wont lose sleep over the message boards :P
and ROLF at that video maxxamus i just wish i knew what game he was playing XD
Re Solidarity, I never had much to do with them but always thought they were a respectable alliance...until I see they allowed the most annoying beggar noob ever to join them! I'm talking about lumimies, an idiot who goes from town to town asking for money, for 'dragons' (ie hatchlings), other stuff - which he then sells on (or tries to) at ridiculous prices (eg 1m for a hatch lmao ^^). Today b4 shutdown he asked for 200k - he offered in return 2000 dss and a rec - lol, 20ks worth. Beg Beg Beg, wah wah wah - he makes me sick. I've nvr seen him out hunting, but when I do.... ;)
this is one of the most boring threads i ever saw expect the part with tiffers lol.
some ppl rly need to calm down and dont start to get mad everytime they get killed.
By far the best post I have read in this thead. I got a good laugh :) out of that one. I did have a movie clip would make mine #2 :cool: as far as replys to a silly poster (not post-Poster)
sooo just cause were in peekay that makes us 76+ lol. acualy me and arch0nZ ARE NOT 7X!! and its mainly me and arch0nz who do the griefing of people were at war with at FG. because if we kill one it usualy cause more to show up and thats more fun. and we didnt have to grief soldarity while they were fighting the raid boss... it did the job for us. soldarity has a big mouth in pms. im not gonna spam the forum with screenshot but they do have it coming to them.
ok now that you have made your point as with the Vandano. Peekay clan has some good people in it. Your just not one of them. Your spine is a bit on the yellow side. Your clan leader should boot you. Gank a lowbe hope more come.
My point, FG for that lvl is just a Noplian complex stuff
You dont get it so i will tell you what that is. A short man thats mad at the world for not growing tall. = a griefer, a bully, anger, rage and hate. Just sad when you think about it realy. So to you as well Happy Happy Joy Joy Feelings Young NoFault! :p The boy will grow to a man but not this day.
i dont gank lowbiez. people at FG are same lvl (prob higher) then me and archonz. lol my leader should kick me? im the least of your problems in peekay.
Someone really has to explain to me what attacking the pvp score of a prophet does. I will admint i ahvent gotten a pvp from lets say soloing a spellhowler for a long time. But i have pvped many people whilst being a prophet and i have won many times. Go out and ask a bishop how many pvp's he has or perhaps an SE or EE about his pvp score. If those classes are wasting there time running up to daggers meleeing them with there awsome 400 patk with a bow they're playing there class wrong and hope they never pvp with me.
I have been playing L2 since OB ive been involved in some way with thousands of kills (not my kills but by support) weather it be buffing the party or being there healer i was still involved. We pvp almost constantly without a real healer other then me. Tell me how many times your party has targeted a single person and you see the beams of light coming out from them... Thats not elemental heal. Explain to me the last time you went to a pvp self buffed and never requested the assistance of a buffer.
There are many roles in this game some gain you the glory of having that hit for 2.5k dmg and having 500+ pvp score by C4. Others have the glory of assisting in getting that person there 500+ pvp score and them requesting you to go to everyone of there pvps because they want you to keep them alive or to buff or to root or whatever it may be.
If you would like to persist in the attacking of my pvp score go right ahead. Its only a generalization of past events recorded to represent skill of 1 base of the whole pvp aspect. You dont go to a pvp without buffs and I play the role of that support class as well as that of a healer and rooter not of a damage dealer. Damage dealers dont -8 STR and wear DC robes.
He started this thread, and said DW sucks at PvP. This is plain flaming, with the intention to make us mad. He has not succeded at all on that point. I might make some heated posts, but this doesn't mean I'm mad. I told him we wanted to drop the war, and got griefed into re-declaring the war, so we don't loose the full 4%.
Now the thread is about his PvP score, however impressive it may be... (100+ for a proph isn't bad.) It's completely beside the point though.
llamas, we did declare peace, right when we found out this war was becomming another Mal Vs NM PK and grief war. We didn't look for that when we said we wanted 30 wars. We're having a war with WLE at this moment, and I'm having fun with that. We win some, we loose some. We don't grief, and they don't grief. (Must have happend a lil, because some people don't get it, but most of the time it's a friendly sort of war. We PvPed a lil at the west gate yesterday... did some 1 vs 1's.. ML pwns, since no one knows how to fight a ES yet :P) And yes, I do party with various WLE people. Yesterday I met two really cool people in a party Toxica had set up, and I hope to meet them in parties more often.
Yesterday I ran up to RedVII on his 5X necro sub, said hi, because he's a friend, IMO. Anavar ran up and started blasting me, Red joined in. I wasn't ready for that, since I had already told Red I wasn't in the mood to fight them. I ran, killed anavar, and then Red nailed me. (+16 hom's hurt BAD! >_< grats on making those btw, guys!) I went back to exping in FG, and told red I was there. A min later I see anavar and Red running by. They must have seen me, but let me be. I think those guys are starting to get the point. Ow and Noobzilla, thanks for leaving us be in FG. (Arch0nz has randomly joined PeeKay, and turned on me almost immidiatly when he found me fighting mobs in FG. Funny how some people think war = war at all times. And yes, a SpS with resist shock 4 is hard to beat for an archer :P)
I know I said I wouldn't post on this thread anymore, but I liked what I read, and had to make a "small" comment. Cheers ^^
P.S.
Van, you still have that sig, it's just silly...
He started this thread, and said DW sucks at PvP. This is plain flaming, with the intention to make us mad. He has not succeded at all on that point. I might make some heated posts, but this doesn't mean I'm mad. I told him we wanted to drop the war, and got griefed into re-declaring the war, so we don't loose the full 4%.
Now the thread is about his PvP score, however impressive it may be... (100+ for a proph isn't bad.) It's completely beside the point though.
llamas, we did declare peace, right when we found out this war was becomming another Mal Vs NM PK and grief war. We didn't look for that when we said we wanted 30 wars. We're having a war with WLE at this moment, and I'm having fun with that. We win some, we loose some. We don't grief, and they don't grief. (Must have happend a lil, because some people don't get it, but most of the time it's a friendly sort of war. We PvPed a lil at the west gate yesterday... did some 1 vs 1's.. ML pwns, since no one knows how to fight a ES yet :P) And yes, I do party with various WLE people. Yesterday I met two really cool people in a party Toxica had set up, and I hope to meet them in parties more often.
Yesterday I ran up to RedVII on his 5X necro sub, said hi, because he's a friend, IMO. Anavar ran up and started blasting me, Red joined in. I wasn't ready for that, since I had already told Red I wasn't in the mood to fight them. I ran, killed anavar, and then Red nailed me. (+16 hom's hurt BAD! >_< grats on making those btw, guys!) I went back to exping in FG, and told red I was there. A min later I see anavar and Red running by. They must have seen me, but let me be. I think those guys are starting to get the point. Ow and Noobzilla, thanks for leaving us be in FG. (Arch0nz has randomly joined PeeKay, and turned on me almost immidiatly when he found me fighting mobs in FG. Funny how some people think war = war at all times. And yes, a SpS with resist shock 4 is hard to beat for an archer :P)
I know I said I wouldn't post on this thread anymore, but I liked what I read, and had to make a "small" comment. Cheers ^^
P.S.
Van, you still have that sig, it's just silly...
Lol. You're so funny when you post and talk like this. When you're at war, in my opinion you can obviously have friends on the other side. But when you are out of town and in the fields of battle etc, you don't go up and say "hi!" and then expect them to leave you alone. Kill them etc so forth. And why by god would you even fight a Spellsinger?
Even with the thing with TRE and Notkyle that one night. You PM'd me for no reason (even though the fiasco is over now) And told me how dishonorable I am etc. When I challenged you to come out, you never came. Notkyle did, props for that and he died 800+ times.
So I don't understand how you can say this and that. Just PVP and enjoy. No excuses, no complaints. And another note, its easy to kill a ES. Kill the summon, then kill the Summoner itself. Simple and basic.
Vandano just wanted to state his opinion's and thoughts on certain tactics/a clan on Gustin and how to PVP, good for him. I also do recall the dwarf that runs DW Deadsomething, begging for wars. You got one, have fun with it. :)
I remember when I was in Malevolence vent I heard a strange fellow who went by the handle "Fuse" screaming and ranting on vent after he lost a pvp cuz he didn't get a heal or something and the healer pulled aggro from a mob. Was quite amusing. I regret not recording it =[. LO~!L~O!L~!O~L!O~L!~O!L
Aye. Talk about having an inferiority complex...wonder what bad things happened in this guys life to start this thread. Pathetic.
As stated by others - Solidarity, was and I assume still is a PvE based alliance. As Trixie already stated, most members are geared out for PvE and not PvP. When an instance of PvP occurs, Solidarity will always show in numbers - not because they're lame or anything, just because it's a tight group of people. But on that note, some of the guys who were or are still in Solidarity are pretty vicious at it, namely Phreakmode who I believe left a while back. There is a large mass of Melee classes (mostly tanks) in Solidarity though and as you may know, a herd of even 60-70 tanks against a group of just one or two groups of ranged (Archers/Mages) people who may as well be 10-15+ levels higher can still pretty much get their [censored] handed to them. But to say Solidarity as an alliance is the worst at PVP is beyond the point of ignorance, because I know for a fact that they've taken it to quite a few people - without the help of NM. But as already stated, they are not the best and I doubt they're even intending to be the best - so accusations as such I guess, are just blatently stupid.
Think you need to ease off some problems dude for starting this thread, maybe go blow your load all over a kittens face for [censored] and giggles - considering you already have showed a pretty vast lack of logic.
done nothing but show you need 9 peps to kill a BD and a SpS....pretty lame IMO
They where getting pled I doubt you need a full pt to kill 2 ppl sitting and staring at a wall. Anyway if anyone wants to know VANDANO's secret to success here it is:
hmmm interesting, I always hated cropped pictures though.....always seems less legitimate
I have several movies of that bot train. I have never seen anyone in it except PeeKay people. I doubt that it is farmer operated but it is without any doubt a train of bots and it appears to exclusively be used to level PeeKay members.
done nothing but show you need 9 peps to kill a BD and a SpS....pretty lame IMO
They where getting pled I doubt you need a full pt to kill 2 ppl sitting and staring at a wall. Anyway if anyone wants to know VANDANO's secret to success here it is:
He started this thread, and said DW sucks at PvP. This is plain flaming, with the intention to make us mad. He has not succeded at all on that point. I might make some heated posts, but this doesn't mean I'm mad. I told him we wanted to drop the war, and got griefed into re-declaring the war, so we don't loose the full 4%.
Now the thread is about his PvP score, however impressive it may be... (100+ for a proph isn't bad.) It's completely beside the point though.
llamas, we did declare peace, right when we found out this war was becomming another Mal Vs NM PK and grief war. We didn't look for that when we said we wanted 30 wars. We're having a war with WLE at this moment, and I'm having fun with that. We win some, we loose some. We don't grief, and they don't grief. (Must have happend a lil, because some people don't get it, but most of the time it's a friendly sort of war. We PvPed a lil at the west gate yesterday... did some 1 vs 1's.. ML pwns, since no one knows how to fight a ES yet :P) And yes, I do party with various WLE people. Yesterday I met two really cool people in a party Toxica had set up, and I hope to meet them in parties more often.
Yesterday I ran up to RedVII on his 5X necro sub, said hi, because he's a friend, IMO. Anavar ran up and started blasting me, Red joined in. I wasn't ready for that, since I had already told Red I wasn't in the mood to fight them. I ran, killed anavar, and then Red nailed me. (+16 hom's hurt BAD! >_< grats on making those btw, guys!) I went back to exping in FG, and told red I was there. A min later I see anavar and Red running by. They must have seen me, but let me be. I think those guys are starting to get the point. Ow and Noobzilla, thanks for leaving us be in FG. (Arch0nz has randomly joined PeeKay, and turned on me almost immidiatly when he found me fighting mobs in FG. Funny how some people think war = war at all times. And yes, a SpS with resist shock 4 is hard to beat for an archer :P)
I know I said I wouldn't post on this thread anymore, but I liked what I read, and had to make a "small" comment. Cheers ^^
P.S.
Van, you still have that sig, it's just silly...
Lol. You're so funny when you post and talk like this. When you're at war, in my opinion you can obviously have friends on the other side. But when you are out of town and in the fields of battle etc, you don't go up and say "hi!" and then expect them to leave you alone. Kill them etc so forth. And why by god would you even fight a Spellsinger?
Even with the thing with TRE and Notkyle that one night. You PM'd me for no reason (even though the fiasco is over now) And told me how dishonorable I am etc. When I challenged you to come out, you never came. Notkyle did, props for that and he died 800+ times.
So I don't understand how you can say this and that. Just PVP and enjoy. No excuses, no complaints. And another note, its easy to kill a ES. Kill the summon, then kill the Summoner itself. Simple and basic.
Vandano just wanted to state his opinion's and thoughts on certain tactics/a clan on Gustin and how to PVP, good for him. I also do recall the dwarf that runs DW Deadsomething, begging for wars. You got one, have fun with it. :)
ES's heal their summon for over 1K... (If they're a decent lvl.) get it right, if you go after the summon first, the summoner will just heal it. If I can get a stun off on the summoner and then kill the summon, that works. Yes, your class can do more damage than the summoner can heal for, so you can just whail on the summon untill it dies. Sleeping the summoner might work too. Whatever style you'd like. (I wouldn't know, I've never played a SpS.)
I PM'ed you because a lvl 66 EE (Elver elder, healing class) told me about you flagging on her and nearly killing her. (recall ftw) She did flag on you, hoping to sleep you and to get you to leave her alone. (You're a SpS, and she is an EE... big boy, picking on weaker people.) I PM'ed you with the question "why?" and you said: "cause I'm bored..." so you go and pick a fight with a solo healer, because you're bored. Notkyle did die a lot, but that wasn't just because of you, I know chapped was out there too... Next time run up to some lvl 76+ NM guy and flag on him, when you're bored. I'm sure he'll fix this problem in no time.
Then, friends in a clan you're at war with... I wouldn't expect you to understand. And I don't really feel like explaining it. PM me ingame for a few names in WLE you should talk to.
And as for the rest... *shrugs* read my previous posts.
done nothing but show you need 9 peps to kill a BD and a SpS....pretty lame IMO
They where getting pled I doubt you need a full pt to kill 2 ppl sitting and staring at a wall. Anyway if anyone wants to know VANDANO's secret to success here it is:
thats it 1v1 there is nothing quite like a warlord fight. 2 ppl with 10.5 p.att beating down like 12K hp. not to meantion howl, battle roar, and revival >< bringe lots of ss :p.
I've seen you around and I can't even think of a word that describes your utter stupidity. You calling other people bad pvp'ers is a joke. Both those alliances are 100x as good at pvp as you are. You are in no position to judge PVP in L2.