Prelude-C3, support classes haven't been able to equip -INT tattoos, and I had heard rumors that you could in C4. Now, looking at the description of -INT/+WIT dyes, they don't restrict healer classes, but it limits it to "wizard" classes. Is this just a type-error, and it will work on my bishop, as they were said to?
My basic plans are -3 int / +3 wit, and -2men / +2 wit, to have a total of +8 wit (stacked with my BW bonus) for super-high % rez, but don't want to invest money in these dyes just to find they won't work. Does anyone have any info on this?
There is a cap you can plus out any skill at anyway though, which I'm pretty sure is +5. So you could +4 WIT then +1 WIT and that's it. I'm betting it is an error though otherwise every healer would get a free WIT bonus since we don't really use INT for much.
This I already know - but my ultimate question that I still don't know the answer to, is will I be able to use a -int tattoo? I'd rather not take -5 men, because that'd hurt too much stuff by too great a variable.
Go -5 Men for +5 Wit. Its perfectly fine, and the difference in the lowered Mdef is noticeable but not the loss in mana regeneration. Really, none of this will matter because you're casting speed and rez % are much more of a benefit than the loss of Men is a burden.
You seriously won't notice it. I went -2 men at first and didn't notice a thing, worked with that for a couple months then did -4 men. The benefit in rez power and casting speed outweights the mp regen, mdef, and mp pool reduction.
I disagree - it really hurts mp regen. After i went for -5 MEN i had constant mp regen problems when grouping until i finally could afford to switch Avadon for BW set.
I disagree - it really hurts mp regen. After i went for -5 MEN i had constant mp regen problems when grouping until i finally could afford to switch Avadon for BW set.
I've gotten -men on multiple characters. I can remember my prophet getting those tattoos (+3/+2 wit)
I went from
13,13,12,13,12,13,13
to
13,13,12,13,12,13,12
If you have regen problems it isn't your tattoo. It's just that your party isn't very efficient.
My clanleader gave me -4/+4 dyes, so I went out to get -1/+1, but it's looking like I can't use those. So do I now have to undo my +4, lose a bunch of money, and then waste more getting +3 and +2?
Well, I bought 10 of the +1wit/-1men dyes from the trader of mammon, but then in HV when I went to the symbol maker, he said that he couldn't make the tattoo for me... :confused:
Has to be Greater Dye of _______, not those other ones. Hmm other than that, maybe it wont let you apply because you already have 3 tattoos? Or you already have +5 on your wit?
I've only used one tattoo, total of +4 WIT off of that one. However, would a "Greater Dye of _____" give me +1? I already have the +4 that I put on, so I could only have another +1 that would actually work.
I tell you what, I did +4 wit - 4 men on my SE on the PTS, I didn't notice any loss in MP, a small loss in m df, an dI thik 1 or 2 mp regen clicks. I really gained more then I lost.
I also got her mejestic robes, +15% cast speed, +8% to mp regen, it helps alot.
As for live with my prophet I'm going to wait on geting tattoos, I got her +3 [censored] with acumen and karmain robes, and I think that will be fine till she hits upper 40's, then I'm get her +4 dex, +4 wit. when I get her to 50+ I'm get her +4 con.
reason for +4 dex is cause of her run speed is too **** slow.
when she hits 61 I'm going to out fit her in tillum.
I disagree - it really hurts mp regen. After i went for -5 MEN i had constant mp regen problems when grouping until i finally could afford to switch Avadon for BW set.
I've gotten -men on multiple characters. I can remember my prophet getting those tattoos (+3/+2 wit)
I went from
13,13,12,13,12,13,13
to
13,13,12,13,12,13,12
If you have regen problems it isn't your tattoo. It's just that your party isn't very efficient.
I thought MEN increased the speed of MP regen not just the amount?
My clanleader gave me -4/+4 dyes, so I went out to get -1/+1, but it's looking like I can't use those. So do I now have to undo my +4, lose a bunch of money, and then waste more getting +3 and +2?
People who choose the +3 and +2 combination when they want +5 in a stat, are usually those that have no tattoos or already have a +2 or +3 tattoo. This is because the total cost for a +2 tatoo and a +3 tattoo is less than that of a +4 tattoo and a +1 tattoo. While a +1 tattoo is slightly cheaper than a +2 tattoo, The price of a +4 tattoo is much higher than a +3 tattoo.
Since you already have the +4 tattoo, it is much cheaper to just add the +1/-1 tattoo.
so... how the hell do I use a +1/-1 dye? Or can't I? Am I now forced to waste a ton of money removing my +4 and getting +3 and +2?
You do not understand. The trader of mammon sells two different types of +1/-1 dyes. One which you cannot use, and one which you can. You have the wrong one. You have to buy the ones which are called "greater".
I thought MEN increased the speed of MP regen not just the amount?
No, just the amount of mp per tick. The amount of "ticks" per minute is always the same, for everybody, irrelevant which class or level. The effect of decreasing MEN depends on your class. If you already have high base MEN (like e.g. elven elders), increasing or decreasing MEN has a higher effect than increasing/decreasing MEN on a lower MEN class (e.g. shillien elders). Decreasing MEN by 5 on my SE means maybe 5-10 mp less per minute, so it is one group heal less per buff round, if even that much. And that disadvantage is pretty much "lol", compared to the REALLY big increase in casting speed.