the ss WS equation and why a-ss is rare(on gustin)

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im sure some maths wizard will come in and rewrite this formula, but its just a few numbers to show crafters profit margins on ss and sps
if you want a tool to do this automatically one of the local forum orcs wrote some excel code which works quite well


(crystal cost + ore cost/quantity) - sell price * quantity/mp cost

the result you get will be your total profit per mp used to craft
it will be a negative number but just ignore that

i consider crystal cost to be the price i can get crystals for everyday from giran in afk sell shops , if i get crystals for cheaper from a buy shop thats a bonus
quantity is the amount of ss/sps made per craft
mp cost is how much mana it cost to craft once
sell price is what you usually sell ss/sps for

now onto why i dont make a-ss and why its getting harder to get

bss
(9,200+15,498/450) - 61 *450/100 = 27.52

a-ss
(14,900+10,332/300) - 95 *300/120 = 27.23

the profits are actually marginally more on bss
now you might say there is very little difference there but i was being generous
every 2 or 3 days you can get b crystals for 8k or less (from sell shops)
14.9k for A crystals is fairly cheap these days, im pretty sure i can walk into giran now and buy some but more and more ppl are chargeing 17k+ for them

i dont usually say this but i think gustin needs more ebayers :/
You know what?
For one, I am tired of the constant rantings of unfair balance/they make more money than me.

Secondly, I don't think dwarfs were designed to be your idea of this "king of the economy" where everyone would need one to make any money. I think dwarfs are hard to level so that the clan would help to level them. I don't think dwarfs were made to rake in cash because in my most honest opinion, I don't think there was intended to be much item sales outside of clans (if they would even be sold within the clan).

Now that is 3 bitter "nukers are better than me posts" . I think it is time for you to take a nap.
Nukers are better than me.

Wait.

I'm a nuker.

(I don't know about Gustin, but on Hinde it's far more profitable to craft blessed sps. Of course, I can do that without going insane since I have my own recharger.)

(I don't know about Gustin, but on Hinde it's far more profitable to craft blessed sps. Of course, I can do that without going insane since I have my own recharger.)


You're just a regular "Swiss Army Knife" of toons, aren't you?
Ok, first of all

bss
(9,200+15,498/450) - 61 *450/100 = 27.52

Actually, (9200+15498/450) - 61 *450/100 is 8959.94. This kind of justifies your earlier comment:

im sure some maths wizard will come in and rewrite this formula

No offense, but why are you posting a thread based on math if, by your own admission, it isn't your strong point?

You're trying to find profit per MP, right?
( [Sell Value] - [Creation Cost] ) / [MP Cost]
( [price per shot]*[# shots] - [Creation Cost] ) / [MP Cost]
...which, amusingly enough, gets the numbers you erroneously posted as the results of your earlier equation (if I use your values).

Two caveats that I think I need to add:
This depends on your values, which I haven't checked.
You're making the assumption that *** are supposed to be more profitable than BSS. Frankly, I don't know why you'd think that, I don't see any reason to design it that way.
I've just been on the server longer than you, SirE. You're catching up.