If I remember correctly Dark Elf skills can land on white non-chaotic characters, because those skills (such as sting, lightning strike etc) cause damage giving the Dark Elves some risk to becoming red.
However with CP this is no longer true. Shillen Knights have a way to completely disable anyone soloing with absolutely no risk whatsoever, they can just watch to make sure their victim hasn't been fighting anyone and they still have their CP, that is provided they don't all ready use a 3rd party program which I see used in so many screenshots posted on other forums..
An example of how stupid this is, lately I've been putting up with a griefer, at least 12 levels higher than me (he's in A) running around lightning striking me everytime I want to fight a mob. I have no defence against this whatsoever, it lands everytime because he has a 2 box Shillen Elder and I bet he's using empower. He can land this on me when I'm white and I think it's broken for this reason, hell a light elf can't even use entangle on a white let alone completely paralyse a white person minding their own business.
To be honest I've always thought paralyse was a dumb skill to begin with on any character but being able to cast it on white characters minding their own business is just ******ed and in 1vs1 it might as well be the touch of instant death or something to save time.
EDIT: I forgot too add it also lasts way too long, a mob can take off 4500 hp from me in heavy armour before it wears off... it's just another way for people to steal others gear without working for it.
It's intended to do exactly that. It's not broken, you're just being griefed.
You have three options:
1) Bring friends, have them in hiding, and kill him.
2) Fight melee-only mobs, and take off your jewels. Stay low HP, and hope he 1 shots you through your CP and HP and goes red. Now see #1.
3) Do nothing.
It's intended to do exactly that. It's not broken, you're just being griefed.
You have three options:
1) Bring friends, have them in hiding, and kill him.
2) Fight melee-only mobs, and take off your jewels. Stay low HP, and hope he 1 shots you through your CP and HP and goes red. Now see #1.
3) Do nothing.
Enjoy!
Tell me why so many skills can't be used on white characters yet Lightning Strike can be. There's a point to not allowing sleep/root etc to be used on whites and paralyse is even worse and there is no risk of the shillen knight going red and even if he did then I have have to die anyway, this isn't ordinary griefing such as trains and ksing etc this is a 100% foolproof way of killing lower level people without going red and being able to tax their gear. My anger here doesn't lie with the griefer, I've greifed many people before but it is with the skill, it's using a long-outdated method of balance, the 'might go red' balance to use on whites.
(oh and don't forget that reds under 5 pk don't drop items and there is sin-eater too so this guy has an extremely low-risk of anything)
Lightning Strike is an attack skill just like Fatal Strike or Hammer Crush, thus it can be used on whites. Nasty way to grief, but it's totally in the game mechanics. Basically he's initiating combat with you.
Lightning Strike is an attack skill just like Fatal Strike or Hammer Crush, thus it can be used on whites. Nasty way to grief, but it's totally in the game mechanics. Basically he's initiating combat with you.
Free PVP as they say.
Thats my point, he's opening up the door for pvp with a certain death skill in which he doesn't go red for and which I risk dropping my armour... its broken because a paralysed character can't defend themselves whatsoever and a white character shouldn't have this skill placed on them any time a griefer feels like using it.
When it happens to your alts you will all see, this is one of the worst and things I have ever seen in L2 and I've played since beta.
Lighting Strike land rate sux as hell... same as regen time.
It has chance like 1/10 to land on equal level character.
and like 50% on low lvl bots with elven jewels :)
Splatter: The skill is alot like stun (ie you cant do anything but take damage) and yes, the person casting it on you will flag. The difference between this skill and stun is a) it lasts alot longer and b) it cant be broken like Stun can. This is the nastiest form of griefing, and GOD FORBID you are pulling for AOE when someone does this to you. I lost FP armor back in the day due to some jerk landing this on me.
But still the land rates on it arnt all that great, its hardly the most effective griefing tool.
It lands on me EVERY time and I have approx 600 mdef.
He has a SE for empower which is probably why but either way it hasn't failed once yet. There is NO countermeasure for this and the re-use time of lightning strike isn't bad, in fact I think it's less than the effect period of the paralyse it casts.
Plenty of counter measures, one being get yourself Para resist armour... Why are you in the same area as someone so significantly higher level then you anyway, and if this is happening all the time, 1) why are you still there 2) why havent you zerged him yet, hes a SK hardly the best PvP class out there.
Disclaimer: SK's arnt gimp at PvP so [censored] pls.
Higher levels come to lower level areas to GRIEF, surely you've heard of this. Most griefers aren't like gee, let me bug same level people.
Not everyone runs with a zerg.
In fact on Kain for a while there we had a level 60 something SK running around CRUMA swamps (30ish area) doing this to people. Now which player didn't really belong there?
Plenty of counter measures, one being get yourself Para resist armour... Why are you in the same area as someone so significantly higher level then you anyway, and if this is happening all the time, 1) why are you still there 2) why havent you zerged him yet, hes a SK hardly the best PvP class out there.
Disclaimer: SK's arnt gimp at PvP so [censored] pls.
1)It's the only place I know which I can level my soul crystal from 9-10.
2)Because I'm not part of a zerg and I don't want to waste my time, I'm sure if I did kill him it wouldn't stop him and if I don't is irrelevant there'll probably be another 100 just like him soon.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
That made no sense to me. Anyway...
The skill is not broken or over power'd, its land rate is crap i have no idea why its landing on you 100% of the time. What class are you, if your a mage then you should be in DC, but as you said your M def was a laughable 600 i assume your a archer/melee?
And my disclaimer was aimed at everyone so as they cannot go "SPS [censored] my SK owns at pvp" because i said they are "hardly the best pvp class"
Also how the hell have i gone off-topic? Im talking about Lightning strike arnt i?
Edit: If you dont have at least 1 friend in the whole of this sorry game who can help you punk this guy then...lol...Get a clan kill him back and he will not do it again. Stop being a coward and defend yourself when you see him, hell make the first move. When someone griefs me i dont stand for it. I definatly dont go moan nerf on the forums either, I see a guy comming to train me, first thing i do is attack him, that guys gunna have me and a hella lot of mobs to take on, i prefer my chances tbh, if this situation was happening to me, i would grief the guy back or ask a clannie/friend to help me sort a scrub out.
He has a SE for empower which is probably why but either way it hasn't failed once yet. There is NO countermeasure for this and the re-use time of lightning strike isn't bad, in fact I think it's less than the effect period of the paralyse it casts.
Get yourself an SE (or bishop) and purify para away, pretty simple countermeasure.
Are you from Kain by any chance? Same thing happened to me. Bastard para me, bleed, sting me (no doubt using walker to see my hp) and then bring a doom knight over and transfer aggro to me. The scariest minute of my L2 life, didn't want to drop my tallum helm. I was so relieved that I only dropped a christmas carol crystal (hohoho). I was level 66 with decent jewelries but I had zerk on, no more zerk in C4! This skill needs to be nerfed. There's no protection from it, and the griefer usually is a high level, so even if it doesn't land, nothing you can do about it. I got revenge though, my clan eventually took their castle :p
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
That made no sense to me. Anyway...
Ok let me rephrase for the local trailer park resident:
I don't give a crap about being griefed I am well aware it's part of the game. I'm not angry at the person for doing it and I'm not crying out for a SK nerf.
The skill is not broken or over power'd, its land rate is crap i have no idea why its landing on you 100% of the time. What class are you, if your a mage then you should be in DC, but as you said your M def was a laughable 600 i assume your a archer/melee?
And my disclaimer was aimed at everyone so as they cannot go "SPS [censored] my SK owns at pvp" because i said they are "hardly the best pvp class"
Also how the hell have i gone off-topic? Im talking about Lightning strike arnt i?
Edit: If you dont have at least 1 friend in the whole of this sorry game who can help you punk this guy then...lol...Get a clan kill him back and he will not do it again. Stop being a coward and defend yourself when you see him, hell make the first move. When someone griefs me i dont stand for it. I definatly dont go moan nerf on the forums either, I see a guy comming to train me, first thing i do is attack him, that guys gunna have me and a hella lot of mobs to take on, i prefer my chances tbh, if this situation was happening to me, i would grief the guy back or ask a clannie/friend to help me sort a scrub out.
Who are you to tell me to buy DC? First of all I'm not at the level required because I made this character 2 weeks ago and have you seen the price tag on a DC helmet? I can't afford one and I don't understand how you can think anyone could go to town and buy one just because they were paralysed.
What I want to say is that in an instant, just out of nowhere I can be paralysed without any defenses (not even able to run away) without even beginning a pvp against someone and people are using this skill to obtain free items from lower level characters yet posing the most minimal risks to themselves. Items I can't afford to replace (although I'm sure you have plenty of DC helms stocked away and are the reason I have to put up with farmers in every hunting location).
You automatically assume I'm just having a whinge about nothing because quite simply, it's yet to happen to you.
Are you from Kain by any chance? Same thing happened to me. Bastard para me, bleed, sting me (no doubt using walker to see my hp) and then bring a doom knight over and transfer aggro to me. The scariest minute of my L2 life, didn't want to drop my tallum helm. I was so relieved that I only dropped a christmas carol crystal (hohoho). I was level 66 with decent jewelries but I had zerk on, no more zerk in C4! This skill needs to be nerfed. There's no protection from it, and the griefer usually is a high level, so even if it doesn't land, nothing you can do about it. I got revenge though, my clan eventually took their castle :p
Yes I'm from kain and it was at the doom knights also. I'm guessing it's the same person. The difference is I'm just lvl 52 and the lightning strike doesn't even come close to breaking my CP so there is no chance of him going red.
The point the OP makes, and I agree with it, is that
a.) skills like sleep, root, anchor, which do not damage but "disable" you, cannot be used on a white
b.) lightning strike, which paralyzes you like anchor and way worse than sleep or root IS allowed on whites, with the reasoning "it does damage, so you might go red" - but the damage it does is negligible and the main "point" of the skill is to paralyze.
So - yes, it "works as designed", but the design is obsolete and wrong. It should not work on whites, because basically all it does is paralyze, and anchor does not work on whites. Just remove the damage part of the skill and let it do only paralyze - on flagged players. That the chance of landing is low is no reason to make it work on whites.
I agree that any skill with Paralyze should not work on whites. So what if it only lands 1/10 on peeps your own level. You can go anywhere and get anyone below 40 killed with this. Only ways around are to have a lvl 4x+ SE/Bishop nearby, hell anyone nearby because the (reuse time is pretty [censored]) other player can finish the mob for you. Or you can simply logout and ask a couple friends to come along and help you relog.
I agree that any skill with Paralyze should not work on whites. So what if it only lands 1/10 on peeps your own level. You can go anywhere and get anyone below 40 killed with this. Only ways around are to have a lvl 4x+ SE/Bishop nearby, hell anyone nearby because the (reuse time is pretty [censored]) other player can finish the mob for you. Or you can simply logout and ask a couple friends to come along and help you relog.
No skill should be a 2 minute disable. Para should be changed to work like fossilize.
I agree that any skill with Paralyze should not work on whites. So what if it only lands 1/10 on peeps your own level. You can go anywhere and get anyone below 40 killed with this. Only ways around are to have a lvl 4x+ SE/Bishop nearby, hell anyone nearby because the (reuse time is pretty [censored]) other player can finish the mob for you. Or you can simply logout and ask a couple friends to come along and help you relog.
No skill should be a 2 minute disable. Para should be changed to work like fossilize.
I think thats a great idea. Stun can be broken (sometimes far too easily) But Paralyze.....yeah it needs the hefty nerf stick beating I say.
1) para is a 2 minute disable, but can be cured by a healer.
2) Lighting strike is magic, and does damage. Take off your jewels before he does it, and instead of dying to mobs you'll die to the player, and he'll be red.
3) Find friends who will defend you, and kill him good.
If you're soloing in a PVP game, expect stuff like this. It's part of the game. If you don't like the risk, don't solo.
1) para is a 2 minute disable, but can be cured by a healer.
2 min free for all gang bang on you. Say it properly. +15% landing rate and call it fossilize. Don't just nerf the effect, bump the landing rate...it's all sk have :p
MMOs aren't about soloing.. good way to get out of that mindset, imo ^^
Indeed, MMOs are about being able to interact with other people. However, and this is where most people get confused, this does not mean that soloing is any less of a valid playstyle, rather it means that a massive number of people are playing simultaneously; as opposed to a regular multiplayer game where at most 128 people are playing simultaneously.
So I think its a good time to get out of the mindset, "MMOs aren't about soloing.. good way to get out of that mindset, imo ^^".
Now concerning lightning strike, I would have to agree that this spell should not lend itself to being able to be cast on white players, if only for the sole fact that any other character disabling spell or skill of such a type requires that the player must be pink to prevent players from using these skills and spells to grief other people.
As far as paralysis in general being too powerful for its own good, I would also have to agree. Though again, I will justify this by suggesting that every other immobilizing skill and spell can be broken upon the application of damage (sans silence, which could use the same review as paralysis). And when placed as a skill for a mob, it shows its true colors as being wholly too debilitating. Paralysis as in its current form, is no different from giving a player or mob and instant kill ability, albeit with a low chance of occuring, and requiring a slightly longer time input from the player than an instant kill would require; though the end result is the same, placing a player in a situtation where they can do nothing but watch themselves die, knowing there is nothing they can or could have done differently to change the outcome.
I just love how this guy flammed the [censored] out of SPS.
sps was just offering hjis opinion and you [censored] the living [censored] out of him.
so here is my opinion: Take the stick out of your *** and go beat the "uber" sk that is harrasing you with a friend, and if you dont have any friends well then i hope you die and drop some armor.
wutever tbh
/flame away
Landing rate on LS usually sucks bigtime, if you have empower and uses b-sps the landing rate goes up, but it's still pretty bad on equal lvled players.
If you nerf LS you more or less kill an entire class, since it's one of the few good skills we got, unlike other tanks we do not have alot of HP so we usually go down faster...
And cry nerf just because 1 player griefs you, well that would be kinda wierd, then they should nerf every nuker since they can kill you easily before you can reach them if they have some lvls on you.
Btw, I am impressed that you got to lvl 52 in 2 weeks, took me way longer to get to that lvl, way way longer even :)
Thomas, the nerf we're asking for is to remove the ability to use LS on a white player. It does not affect your ability to hunt/pvp in normal situations. All other skills of similar nature (except for stun) has this limitation, and stun is really easy to get interrupted.
And the people who do these things are usually 70+, so how is a level 50 or 60 character suppose to stand up against them? You bring some of your other 50-60 friends, he'll bring a few of his 70 griefing buddies and who do you think will win? You could say that's part of the game. But that's the part of the game that's wrong and should get corrected.
I don't mind dying in pvp, but getting LS by a griefer and then dying to npcs and dropping something is not the same as being 2 shot by a mage.
Landing rate on LS usually sucks bigtime, if you have empower and uses b-sps the landing rate goes up, but it's still pretty bad on equal lvled players.
If you nerf LS you more or less kill an entire class, since it's one of the few good skills we got, unlike other tanks we do not have alot of HP so we usually go down faster...
And cry nerf just because 1 player griefs you, well that would be kinda wierd, then they should nerf every nuker since they can kill you easily before you can reach them if they have some lvls on you.
Btw, I am impressed that you got to lvl 52 in 2 weeks, took me way longer to get to that lvl, way way longer even :)
LS / Anchor are fine on mobs, but we're talkin pvp or mass pvp here. Believe it or not, this game does orient itself around high lvl activity in those castle thingies. In that sense, one skill in this game has a 2 minute can't fight back timer. For a necro, empower/bless/inspiration/gloom the opponent = insta para. It lands OFTEN which is fine for that buff set and recycle time. For a SK, you have many other skills including a tank that can attack by leaching back its hard to take life. I find a SK with a sword of miracles using blessed very hard to kill. I find an SK with a dark legion edge/hp up easy to kill. And seriously, why would you use a magic attack skill without blessed? That's absurd. The point is, the skill is a 2 minute immobilization. Shield stun was nerfed because it was 5 seconds unbreakable. Granted the land rate is very different, that's still pretty extreme.
+15% landing rate, and the character is immune to damage really balances out the skill. You will disable more characters, players will have to recognize not to target them in pvp, players won't die from being para'd by a mob, it will still last a long time, and armors that resist are still significant. Seems pretty simple to me.
I just love how this guy flammed the [censored] out of SPS.
sps was just offering hjis opinion and you [censored] the living [censored] out of him.
so here is my opinion: Take the stick out of your *** and go beat the "uber" sk that is harrasing you with a friend, and if you dont have any friends well then i hope you die and drop some armor.
wutever tbh
/flame away
He told me to first ****** which isn't an opinion it's an insult and it ****** me off just like this post is probably going to piss you off too because I called you a ******.
Keep in mind.. while the damage actually done by LS is affected by mdef, the actual paralysis is not.
Sleep/Root/Para/Silence are all affected by wit. Try to get the mental aegis buff before you hunt, and + your wit. You'll hopefully avoid the para, and can beat the s#%& out of him while he's purple.
I just love how this guy flammed the [censored] out of SPS.
sps was just offering hjis opinion and you [censored] the living [censored] out of him.
so here is my opinion: Take the stick out of your *** and go beat the "uber" sk that is harrasing you with a friend, and if you dont have any friends well then i hope you die and drop some armor.
wutever tbh
/flame away
He told me to first ****** which isn't an opinion it's an insult and it ****** me off just like this post is probably going to piss you off too because I called you a ******.
Nah gettting called a ****** by someone like you doesnt piss me off, i dont get angry at kids.
Plenty of counter measures, one being get yourself Para resist armour... Why are you in the same area as someone so significantly higher level then you anyway, and if this is happening all the time, 1) why are you still there 2) why havent you zerged him yet, hes a SK hardly the best PvP class out there.
Disclaimer: SK's arnt gimp at PvP so [censored] pls.
1)It's the only place I know which I can level my soul crystal from 9-10.
2)Because I'm not part of a zerg and I don't want to waste my time, I'm sure if I did kill him it wouldn't stop him and if I don't is irrelevant there'll probably be another 100 just like him soon.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
this is where things went badly btw, look who started the fight, i think its you.
Plenty of counter measures, one being get yourself Para resist armour... Why are you in the same area as someone so significantly higher level then you anyway, and if this is happening all the time, 1) why are you still there 2) why havent you zerged him yet, hes a SK hardly the best PvP class out there.
Disclaimer: SK's arnt gimp at PvP so [censored] pls.
1)It's the only place I know which I can level my soul crystal from 9-10.
2)Because I'm not part of a zerg and I don't want to waste my time, I'm sure if I did kill him it wouldn't stop him and if I don't is irrelevant there'll probably be another 100 just like him soon.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
this is where things went badly btw, look who started the fight, i think its you.
Disclaimer: SK's arnt gimp at PvP so [censored] pls.
He said this first k thx. It was implying I should stop posting on my own thread.
actually, as he said later, ill find the quote for you if it will help, he said that cause he didnt want all the SK's to come to this thread and [censored] him out saying "MY SK R0X AT PVP OMGZ"
Your just a sad sad little boy, and should go play WoW.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
And my disclaimer was aimed at everyone so as they cannot go "SPS [censored] my SK owns at pvp" because i said they are "hardly the best pvp class"
I even found and edited down the quote for you, so it would be easier for you to read.
Maybe you should read the topic before you start crying it's about the skill not the character, or the person playing it I've not once posted about any griefer and I've encountered plenty so you should be the one to [censored] and keep the thread on topic k? ty.
And my disclaimer was aimed at everyone so as they cannot go "SPS [censored] my SK owns at pvp" because i said they are "hardly the best pvp class"
I even found and edited down the quote for you, so it would be easier for you to read.
heh I bet you're one of the SK's doing this and are just trying to have this thread locked.
Lol thanks, i think this kid misunderstood me.
Light strike shouldnt be changed, simply because it "can" be used for griefing, loads of skills are like this, hammer crush..stun attack..fake death..you want all of these changed aswell? Griefing is part of the game, combat it in-game. As Glav said, take your freakin jewels off and he will 1 shot you go red and then you can deal with him, zerg him, but i guess you have no friends so the zerg is out of question. Try shouting that there is a red in A grade on the loose, some bounty hunters will come for a free meal. He wont be doing it to you anymore if he finds he keeps going red, which sucks at high lvls.
Stunning a RB group healer anyone? Or a puller for pole group? Should these too be changed as they allow for something similar to happen. You cannot do anything about a high lvl guy coming to chain stun you, unless you zerg him or let him pk you. You just hope the stun doesnt land. Same thing as with LS, only that it has lower landrate but it immobilizes for a longer period of time and cant be broken.
LS is a griefing tool just like stun and fake death. Deal with it. If you're getting griefed, change spots or get the griefer killed. And the guy cant be there every **** hour of the day so really, this is pointless crying. Maybe he picks on you all the time cos you dont do anything about it. Maybe he would stop if another SK came and LS'd him and then got him killed by mobs. But you didnt seem to think about the possible ways to combat him, you just came here to pout about it.
If LS couldnt land on white players, it would nerf the SK in pvp. As of now, you can open pvp with LS and thus possibly incapacitate your enemy before he can harm you or your buddies. If it couldnt be used until the other one is flagged, whats preventing the enemy from closing in on the SK and pwning him with stun/high dmg? You'd let them to close the gap and get into melee before LS is usable.
Stunning a RB group healer anyone? Or a puller for pole group? Should these too be changed as they allow for something similar to happen. You cannot do anything about a high lvl guy coming to chain stun you, unless you zerg him or let him pk you. You just hope the stun doesnt land. Same thing as with LS, only that it has lower landrate but it immobilizes for a longer period of time and cant be broken.
LS is a griefing tool just like stun and fake death. Deal with it. If you're getting griefed, change spots or get the griefer killed. And the guy cant be there every **** hour of the day so really, this is pointless crying. Maybe he picks on you all the time cos you dont do anything about it. Maybe he would stop if another SK came and LS'd him and then got him killed by mobs. But you didnt seem to think about the possible ways to combat him, you just came here to pout about it.
If LS couldnt land on white players, it would nerf the SK in pvp. As of now, you can open pvp with LS and thus possibly incapacitate your enemy before he can harm you or your buddies. If it couldnt be used until the other one is flagged, whats preventing the enemy from closing in on the SK and pwning him with stun/high dmg? You'd let them to close the gap and get into melee before LS is usable.
Well then we might as well change it so root, entangle, sleep, anchor, bleed and every other skill in the game to land on whites too because they are also % based.
The only difference is that there is 0 chance of going red with these skills yet with Lightning Strike it does a very small amount and doesn't even break through cp so that would give the SK an extremely minute chance of becoming red yet he can land it on whites. This skill was implemented before CP and I'm saying it needs to be updated.
Btw even without my jewels I doubt lightning strike would do anywhere near 6k damage on me and even if it did, why should I have to accept a pk just because I don't want to be disabled and drop my gear?
The griefer is fully buffed, you are not, its reasonable that he lands para on you, because he has a huge skill set advantage and complete buffs. Get yourself magic barrier and i bet it wont land on you anymore. This skill is not a great super uber grifing tool, stun is more reliable as it has a better land rate and can be used in a chain effect, yet no 1 comes on forums and moans nerf stun i got griefed! Deal with it yourself, we have provided you with plenty of counter measures you just dont want to listen.
There's also a really small chance of going red with Stuns as they dont deal much damage. So change them too?
Fact is that you can fight that guy, it's all up to you. And noone is forcing you to be at that area so you choose to be there for the SK to toy with. Get friends to kill him, zerg him or switch places. Or play at a different time. Very few people camp lower lvl grounds 24/7 as it's nigh impossible for 1 person to stay even awake for days and days at end. If you're so desperate to lvl your crystal there, do it at a totally different time. Chances are that the SK is sleeping then.
There's also a really small chance of going red with Stuns as they dont deal much damage. So change them too?
Fact is that you can fight that guy, it's all up to you. And noone is forcing you to be at that area so you choose to be there for the SK to toy with. Get friends to kill him, zerg him or switch places. Or play at a different time. Very few people camp lower lvl grounds 24/7 as it's nigh impossible for 1 person to stay even awake for days and days at end. If you're so desperate to lvl your crystal there, do it at a totally different time. Chances are that the SK is sleeping then.
Im fully prophet buffed with magic barrier 3 and again, this thread isn't about fighting him or being griefed it's about Shillen Knights having an ultimate, unbalanced griefing skill but anyway I'm going to stop posting here because everyone is getting the wrong idea and when it starts happening to other people you will see (or maybe yourself).
Why does everyone assume a red is going to drop all their gear? Do people assume the old school rules are in place? If you cause the guy to go accidently red, if he's 5 pk's or under, which is very likely, he's probably not going to drop squat. Or he'll have a BSOE.
This is why "RED IN FULL A/B GRADE" isn't such a draw any more because you're probably just wasting your time.
Why does everyone assume a red is going to drop all their gear? Do people assume the old school rules are in place? If you cause the guy to go accidently red, if he's 5 pk's or under, which is very likely, he's probably not going to drop squat. Or he'll have a BSOE.
This is why "RED IN FULL A/B GRADE" isn't such a draw any more because you're probably just wasting your time.
Why? Because sometimes, they do. :D Ellie, you're so pessimistic most of the time. :)
We have a pair of griefers on hindemith in Branded that like to do all the bad things you can think of to players. They get their toons to lvl 20, get access to the cats/ necros and delevel them so they are one-shots. Lots of people go red on them.
A few days ago, I was a little toasted, so decided to take my SK and go have some fun with them. In C3, everytime I did LS, it caused damage, and landed very rare. Now, it seems to land a lot more often on players 10 lvls or more lower, yet still sux for my own level range. The only thing I want to argue about here, is when my Para does land, I don't see any damage done in my damage log. Those griefers were a one shot with my AOBA, where I did 1500 dmg, so I know they should have died to LS. SO how are you losing CP when he lands the LS?
As far as nerfing it, I don't agree with a player needing to be flagged before you can cast it, have you seen the cast time? You would basically take away the skill as one of the few advantages a tank class has in PVP. Personally I think there are many flaws in the system, where a Necro can put transfer pain on his pet, and leave the pet in a safe zone to go PVP with twice as many hp. But hey, to each their own. NCSOFT will not nerf this skill because a few players don't like the impact or unfairness of it.
No, I've just been to one too many "OMG red with cool gear come quick" only to either kill it and no drops, or they use a BSOE/log out. My pessimism is based on experiance, not just general grumpiness. A red who may pop like a pinata is generally not unaware of this fact.
You cannot do anything about a high lvl guy coming to chain stun you, unless you zerg him or let him pk you. You just hope the stun doesnt land.
This is not true. A stun can be broken when you get hit. So if a PC stuns you, putting you in danger of a mob death, you still have a chance to BSOE if the stun breaks before you die.
As soon as stun brakes the alternate stun move is used. My class has hammer crush and stun attack, i can easily keep people perma stunned if they are way lower level then me. I also have no chance of going red cos the damage is minimal as i use a crappy NG blunt.
Titan has 3 stuns. Stun attack, Hammer Crush and Armor Crush. With a ng weapon the damage dealt is so low that it wont kill most people, but you can easily keep say lvl 40 people stunned. Chain stunning is the key here. With haste and 1handed blunt, the skills recharge fast enough for you to have _both_, or in the case of titans all stuns usable again. Try to Bsoe when you're being hammered and mobs are attacking you. Most likely you're either stunned until you die or Bsoe gets interrupted by stun/damage. And most lowbies dont have Bsoe >.>
ya LS either para's or does dammage now soooo its greate about greefing bots
and zoidberg waaa waaa waaaa go cram it you either need to put up or shut up that is the give all end all skill of the sk its land rate is about 25% on same level players when buffed it is the skill the sk gets when he is at the pinical of his skill its soupost to be strong its there ultmate move
there is also nothing new about LS it has been around as long as sk's and it does do dammage i have gone red plenty of times with it by people who were smart eneugf to de-equip there jewles when theay see us casting.
Someone from the design team had the brilliant idea to nerf the lightning strike (as if the sk needed a nerf), and changed it so it now make zero damage if it succeed in paralyzing you. As it is still a damaging spell, it can still be used on white.
What that moron didn't saw was that by doing so, it would not only reduce the usefulness of lightning strike in "normal" combat situations, but it also change it to a very nice griefing tool. Nobody was using it that way before because to have a good landing rate, you need to be fully buffed, use bsps, and attack someone much lower than you. Guess what? perfect recipe for one shooting your target...
But now, it can be done, you can come fully buffed, empowered, bsps, with a very high matck weapon, and use lightning strike on low level people without risk. It will land everytime, and especially, it will not do damage when it land.
The thought that my subscription is used to pay this design team salary really make me sad.