bit confused about top-grade weapons...

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here's the noob question^^
what exactly you mean for "top (whatever) grade" weapon?
I readed that you can "upgrade" that kind of arms... getting for ex a d grade to a c... this is not enchanting, that gives +1 to the weapon... so what changes? you can upgrade only top grade? there's a way to know if it's a top grade, or just looking at stats?
tnx^^ for now it's all :P
Top grade weapon means that there are no better weapons in that grade of that type of weapon.

Mammon can upgrade any D, C, or B weapon up to the top in that grade, but cannot upgrade a D weapon to a C weapon.

I think that should answer your question.
Top grade weapon = The weapon with the highest p.atk of a garde.

Ex : The Elven Long Sword for D grade and Samurai Long Sword for C grade.

You can D or C weapons to the Blacksmith of Mammon and have it upgrade for a superior one, you pay with Ancient Adena. If the weapon you upgrade is top D, the new weapon you will have will be a low C.

The thing is, usually, top D weapons cost higher than low D, so it's better to just sell it and buy a new one than to upgrade it.

Mammon can upgrade any D, C, or B weapon up to the top in that grade, but cannot upgrade a D weapon to a C weapon.



Sorry but Mammon can only upgrade D and C, not B.

And he can upgrade D to C.


Mammon can upgrade any D, C, or B weapon up to the top in that grade, but cannot upgrade a D weapon to a C weapon.



Sorry but Mammon can only upgrade D and C, not B.

And he can upgrade D to C.


EEEK! I better check my Sword of Valhalla and make sure it hasn't reverted back to the hell knife! :eek:
yup tnx ^^ now i got it! so i can bring my bastard sword to mammon and he will give me back the next d grade in order toward the last d grade, isn't it? anyway... seems expensiva and not always convenient...
at least now i know of this option ;)
tnx again
Sword of Valhalla crystal count = 122
Hell Knife crystal count =122

That is an exchange of weapons, not an upgrade.
Uh, you shouldn't be able to exchange B grade...

Uh, you shouldn't be able to exchange B grade...



I know, but I wanted to prove that is statement was already flawed at that point.
Uhm, the mattk is 122, crystal count is 1157 ;) on both of those weapons.

You can upgrade Low D-> Top D -> Low C -> Top C(and all the different ones in between) and thats it. You can also change weapons to different weapons of same crystal count, but this only works in D/C-grade too, unless C4 has changed it.

Low= lowest crystal count weapon of that grade
Top= highest crystal count of that grade

Uhm, the mattk is 122, crystal count is 1157 on both of those weapons.



Oups... :o
Ok here is my definition of top weapon.

First it depends what class you are. top wep for archer/mele/nuker/buffer/healer are all different.

Basically it comes down to what is the best weapon ie...Patk/Matk/SA for your class.

Not everyone in D grade wants or needs an Elven long sword, claymore or whatever wep you use . Heck most people dont even get the top D grade wep. Most people can lvl right through D grade farely easy with a low or mid D grade.

C grade has the most options of all the different D grade weapons. Every class will have thier top(favorite)wep for each grade. Some classes don't need to upgrade weps every grade change.

So look around the forums and find who uses what for your class. More often than not you will get 5 different answers it all depends on how you play or set up your toon.
i see... in fact i'm still fine with my actual sword, and since i'm almost 30, probably i will try to hit 40 with no "expenses" (maybe some +1 scrolls from the L2Day event could be of help :P)
i'm still not sure what job i will do after, but right now i'm palus knight and happy of it :)
tnx for your explanation ^__^ cya in Devianne!

but cannot upgrade a D weapon to a C weapon.



What?


Mammon can upgrade any B weapon up to the top in that grade,



WHAT???

Is this something that came with C4?

Is this something that came with C4?




better friggn not be
i know a few ws's that would scream bloody murder if that happened
Could we get a confirm in that reguards. I have a b weapon I would dearly love to exchange up.
I know the exchanges keep the enchantments, but do the SAs carry over as well?
I'm pretty sure you can't exchange B grade.

As for SA, for C grade you keep the enchants but loose the SA when you exchange.