PS so weak. Why?

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Why class PS such weak?
Why PS cannot kill in general anybody?
Why the shadow is killed by any player of my level a maximum 10 impacts?
Why PS it is not intended for party game - PS never take in party?
PS in general it is necessary nobody - what for it has been made?
Or NCSOFT wished to make game only for magicians, archers and necro.
If exists though any balance up to 40 levels after 40 balances is not present.
Any player not from a class the archers/magician/necro - only meat.
PS is not weak in C4, all summoners are pretty nice now.
Buffed, my level 54 soulless has over 800 patk + my own patk of 400. How many melee has patk of around 1200 at level 54 (attack speed=slow)? Shadow has builtin VR, and the silhouette has a nice drain attack. With pet shots, those summons hurt alot.
Don't know which class you were fighting, but 10 hits from any archer or mage will kill anyone of the same level. You also have a very strong pet heal, use it. Cubics that debuffs and stun, TP. Weak, are you kidding? We're not wanted in parties because people don't know about the mass cubics in C4, they are nice ;) But who needs party when you have your summon? Can't wait to get my Nightshade summon.

The only down side, is that it's expensive as @#$% to play a PS. Shots + crystals adds up really fast, adena drops probably only make up 2/3 of my hunting cost :( :eek: :eek:

Why PS cannot kill in general anybody?

It's not the class, it's you. Sorry to be so blunt, but PS is an average PvP class. Given an opponent of equal skill and gear, you should die and kill him (both!). If you're not killing him, your opponent has you outclassed in some way.


Why the shadow is killed by any player of my level a maximum 10 impacts?

Abnormally low PDef. Try, umm, not just waiting to die and you'll have more success. Heals and passive VR make attacking the Shadow first in PvP pretty dang stupid.


Why PS it is not intended for party game - PS never take in party?

Whatever you're smoking isn't legal in this country, bub. Where the blazes did you get the idea PS isn't meant to party? Have you played since C3?


PS in general it is necessary nobody - what for it has been made?

For fun. You are not one of the classic roles--you are, in effect, a hybrid. Alter your strategies and summon based on your party.

Buffed, my level 54 soulless has over 800 patk + my own patk of 400. How many melee has patk of around 1200 at level 54 (attack speed=slow)?


I don't speak about exping I speak about PVP
Only yesterday the tank has killed mine shadow from 10 impacts though I treated it not ceasing. And I 1400 P.atc at all have not helped me... Though I was with cubes. And Storm the cube in connection with that that stun in C4 gets off already not such the assistant.

Don't know which class you were fighting, but 10 hits from any archer or mage will kill anyone of the same level.


but why? or Lineage2 is a game for archers and mages only?

You also have a very strong pet heal, use it. Cubics that debuffs and stun, TP. Weak, are you kidding?


No i'm not kidding. we have Ally war and I see who can kill me who can kill I - I can kill nobody - All can kill me..

We're not wanted in parties because people don't know about the mass cubics in C4, they are nice ;) But who needs party when you have your summon?


When Ally war come solo exping = selfkilling

Can't wait to get my Nightshade summon.


Nightshade have only debuff/mass debuff it can be used only on castle siege. For solo/party exping nightshade is not good - low p.atc.


The only down side, is that it's expensive as @#$% to play a PS. Shots + crystals adds up really fast, adena drops probably only make up 2/3 of my hunting cost :( :eek: :eek:


It's party playing game on 60+ And when Enemy kill your shadow (with max 10 shots) You are nothing just a meat

Given an opponent of equal skill and gear, you should die and kill him (both!). If you're not killing him, your opponent has you outclassed in some way.


Equal skill? what skill have PS? All atack skill gone at 40lvl :( where do you see a player 60lvl with 400p.def (as shadow)?



Why the shadow is killed by any player of my level a maximum 10 impacts?

Abnormally low PDef. Try, umm, not just waiting to die and you'll have more success. Heals and passive VR make attacking the Shadow first in PvP pretty dang stupid.


Heh it's realy abnormal low p.def i heal my shadow 3 times but the enemy tank kill my shadow fast then i heal she.



PS in general it is necessary nobody - what for it has been made?

For fun. You are not one of the classic roles--you are, in effect, a hybrid. Alter your strategies and summon based on your party.


Heh may be all other player can't kill hybrid player? It's war game all can kill all - hybrid you or not... And it's no good fun for me to take a lvl for 2 weak :( on my 59lvl


Given an opponent of equal skill and gear, you should die and kill him (both!). If you're not killing him, your opponent has you outclassed in some way.


Equal skill? what skill have PS? All atack skill gone at 40lvl :( where do you see a player 60lvl with 400p.def (as shadow)?

Seriously, I know it's a coincidence, but does anyone else see the irony of him not knowing the meaning of the word?
Skill: you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.



Why the shadow is killed by any player of my level a maximum 10 impacts?

Abnormally low PDef. Try, umm, not just waiting to die and you'll have more success. Heals and passive VR make attacking the Shadow first in PvP pretty dang stupid.


Heh it's realy abnormal low p.def i heal my shadow 3 times but the enemy tank kill my shadow fast then i heal she.

If an enemy tank is rocking your Shadow, even with you trying to heal it, then you're outlevelled by so much it isn't even funny.




PS in general it is necessary nobody - what for it has been made?

For fun. You are not one of the classic roles--you are, in effect, a hybrid. Alter your strategies and summon based on your party.


Heh may be all other player can't kill hybrid player? It's war game all can kill all - hybrid you or not... And it's no good fun for me to take a lvl for 2 weak :( on my 59lvl

No offense, 5hadow, but it's apparent English is not your first language. I have no problem with that, but you may wish to have a fluent speaker interpret for you. You are seriously misunderstanding what is being said to you.

Phantom Summoners are not weak. I'd be surprised if any experienced PS disagreed on this point...
Well some PvP tips for yeah, first of if your PvPing an mele and the melee start to hit your summon, all I'm going to say is, GRATS YOU JUST WON!

yes first of you got quite lots of skills you can use here, first of how about UD? yes just UD the summon and continue heal it.

If he hit you your a bit worser off, but yeah start mele off on him with your cubics so you debuff him some, when your CP is gone start to battel heal yourself, sure it's a weak heal but trust me, it makes a big difference, your summon should continue spam shots on your target.

Also some more tips here, as an Lv 40 Phantom Summoner, you got barly non of your important skills, wait, till 52 at least preferly 56 when you got 40% transfer pain and all your buffs for your summon.

Some classes is not good at all at 40, some get beter off at later lv's some aint even good till they hit at elast 60. 40 is just the begiing of the game. And don't expect to be uber and being able to kill any class there is.

Well some PvP tips for yeah, first of if your PvPing an mele and the melee start to hit your summon, all I'm going to say is, GRATS YOU JUST WON!


As I say upper - i die he won :( He kill shadow for 10 shots


If he hit you your a bit worser off, but yeah start mele off on him with your cubics so you debuff him some, when your CP is gone start to battel heal yourself, sure it's a weak heal but trust me, it makes a big difference, your summon should continue spam shots on your target.


Cubics is so weak to in C4 there is a chance of removal stun. When warlock paralysed me with a cube I have 3 minutes stood and could not make anything. The cube works very seldom.

Also some more tips here, as an Lv 40 Phantom Summoner, you got barly non of your important skills, wait, till 52 at least preferly 56 when you got 40% transfer pain and all your buffs for your summon.


I'm 59PS transfer pain 40% archers hit me 1K dmg with transfer pain :( I have 4K HP+CP - 4hit if they haven't buff
But i say not about me - the shadow with her P.def & M.def are easy to kill by other player :(

Some classes is not good at all at 40, some get beter off at later lv's some aint even good till they hit at elast 60. 40 is just the begiing of the game. And don't expect to be uber and being able to kill any class there is.


At 40lvl in PVP I kill BD, at 59lvl in PVP i can't kill anybody.
Stop whining. PS is decent at pvp.
Yes its got low p.def and m.def but it has a lot of hp.

You can hit hard and take a lot of damage especially when healing your summon. You should be able to kill all equal level melee.

Any other class could complain like you just did.
You made your class decision so you should quit complaining or quit playing it. If you wanted the best pvp class you should of gone necro.

Any other class could complain like you just did.
You made your class decision so you should quit complaining or quit playing it. If you wanted the best pvp class you should of gone necro.


Ok let's all players at all servers be the necro. It's war game - if you do not think about your PVP stats play in "Sims".
No need buffers - you have clanhall
No need tank - if you kill it faster then it kill you
No need melee - you will not have time to reach me i kill you
No need WS, BH - bad player do it for me
That's the game you want? :confused:


Ok let's all players at all servers be the necro. It's war game - if you do not think about your PVP stats play in "Sims".
No need buffers - you have clanhall
No need tank - if you kill it faster then it kill you
No need melee - you will not have time to reach me i kill you
No need WS, BH - bad player do it for me
That's the game you want? :confused:



No, but it is the game we got.

Actually a summoner is a good DD with a healer in one single package. Yes, archers and nukers will kill you. They are overpowerd as they are now but NCSoft promissed to bring more balance in c5.

But, you can kill a lot of other classes with your summon. Healers, dwarfs, tanks and the like should be toast when you attack them. The other Melee DD's will be a tougher opponent but a class that can kill Red mobs nonstop should be able to do pretty well.
start pvping players around your lvl , not people who are 10+ lvls above you.


Any other class could complain like you just did.
You made your class decision so you should quit complaining or quit playing it. If you wanted the best pvp class you should of gone necro.


Ok let's all players at all servers be the necro. It's war game - if you do not think about your PVP stats play in "Sims".
No need buffers - you have clanhall
No need tank - if you kill it faster then it kill you
No need melee - you will not have time to reach me i kill you
No need WS, BH - bad player do it for me
That's the game you want? :confused:



lol this is a good point though

start pvping players around your lvl , not people who are 10+ lvls above you.


Not we choose circumstances - circumstances choose us :)
Look if you're outleveled by 15 levels, as i suspect you were to lose toa tank, BSOE. Unless the tank is a DA with a pet or an SK casting lightning strike you should have no issues.

And 10 hits? my pet can take more than 10 hits from a 7X dagger. if you can't take that from a tank then he outlevels you so far its' not even funny.

And 10 hits? my pet can take more than 10 hits from a 7X dagger. if you can't take that from a tank then he outlevels you so far its' not even funny.

He's probably just going to stop answering you, that's what he did when I told him that :p

I still see serious irony in literally not knowing the meaning of the word "skill" :o
indeed
pfft. I can beat archers around my level (slightly higher) and nukers as long as their debuffs don't land (yeah right)... so no. Phantom Summoners are *not* weak.


At 40lvl in PVP I kill BD, at 59lvl in PVP i can't kill anybody.




I'm guessing that you're level 59 by that statement. Now, if by 59 with the aid of pet ss and transfer pain 4 and you can't kill anyone all i have to say is: Reroll now, the sooner the better. Make a nuker, all you need is sleep -> nuke -> sleep -> nuke ->is target dead? if not -> sleep -> nuke and so on. Even you could figure that out.