Hey all. I want to gather as much info as i can regarding the play of a spellhowler.
My first question is about the C items.What combination will be better for a spellhowler:
1. Karm set and homu/acumen
2. Karm set and wispering death/magic power
3. Demon set and homu/acumen
3. Demon set and wispering death/magic power
My second question is about the dyes.
Some ppl have told me that these 3 are the best for me. Is that so and if it is what item combination will be better + the dyes
1st dye : + 4 int / - 4 men
2nd dye : + 4 wit / - 4 men
and last : + 4 con / - 4 str
I forgot what I had on my SH when I was in C grade. But as for the dyes I have the first 2 on my SH now. I do awsome damage, but i need faster casting. So just a suggestion, get those first 2 tats, and get a weapon that will give you faster casting speed, but remember the faster you cast the faster you spend your MP. But when it all comes down to it, it's what you want to get out of the character. Adena is another issue when it comes to what you buy for your toon. So all in all it's what you can afford and what you want to get out of your toon.
In my case adena is not an issue :) Its all about the best choise. I was thinking that with the tattos i have 1 for cast speed and 1 for dmg roughly. Thats why i think karm and wispering/death power or demon with homu/acumen will be better than karm and homu or demon and wispering/magic power
I think i might go with demon and homu/acumen.
Thanks again guys for your sugestions and comments :)
Currently I am using Demon with Homu+7/Acumen. I really like the dmg output and the speed of the acumen.
Soon I'll be moving onto B gear. I have the Avadon set, but I can't decide on weapons. I've looked into SOES that I've seen for sale but I don't like the enchancements for it. SOV on my server all seem to be +4 w/ acumen but it doesn't seem much better than my Homu +7/acumen as far as MAtk is concerned. Should I just keep my Homu until A grade when I go for SOM? Is there any reason to get Doom over Demon until A grade?
When I was in C grade there was no SA (actually, I don't think there were any SA's) for acumen. I had gone Karmian because I desperately needed the speed boost.
If I had to do it over again i would go Demon and use the Homonkulus with acumen.
As far as tattoos, i've gone +5 Int and +4 Wit.
I was hit by an archer with the +4 con and though his stun didn't land, he took out enough hp to make the additional hitpoints mean nothing. I still think about going back but I don't know if the additional con is really worth it with regards to resisting stun. Do I just resist a little or is it significant? Maybe that's what I'll do this weekend and change my tattoos.
Stick with demon over doom, and wait for a-grade to get the SoM/acumen since you already have a +7 homu/acumen. After that the only other robe set that comes close to the damage of demon is Nightmare set. If you find yourself getting involved in alot of pvp, you might find the speed of DC better. Some still use NM even then due to the sleep resist and higher matk. And I advise against staves since even as a nuker shields can mean the difference between life and death against archer mobs and players.
I guess I'm the odd man out here but for C grade I went with Karmain and a SoWD with Magic Power but I would suggest Going Demon with the SoWD with Magic Power. Speed is good for PvP but in C grade PvP should not be your main focus, lvl'ing should be. With this combo you will be able to easily take out yellow and light red mobs which is great for xp. The Spellhowler will always cast slow and hit hard. I have always found it is better to concentrate on your strong points and leave the weak points as they are. Besides you can buy casting speed in a bottle (greater magic haste). Power is a bit harder to come by. As for tatoos, the +4 INT-4 Men, +4 WIT -4 MEN, is perfect but if your a lil short on cash there is always the option of going to Giran and buying +4 CON -5 STR, you have NO use for PATK anyway and you'll save a good chunk of change. To sum up the Spellhowler is the prefered party wizard, Big hits and near endless mana (B2M/Corpse Life Drain) and the SpS is the prefered PvP wizard, speed speed speed. Work with your strong points and you will be just that....Strong! Hope that helps ;)
There is 1 more thing that casting speed is used for. (at least thats what i think - be free to correct me :P) In a fu$ked up situation when several mobs come to attack you u have to able to sleep them fast. Especially when you are with demon set your hp will be low as hell. And by using B2M u might be caught in a bad HP situation. That is why i was thinking that the set or the weapon should be giving you casting speed. And about the GMP (greater magic potion) ... i am always using them.
The main question is this: Will i be able to get away from a "mob ambush" fast enough (using sleep) with demon and SoWD/magic power. Or i will be just able to kill them fast enough using aura spells.
P.S. (my english is a bit bad so sorry for any wrong spelled words)
Oh and another thing. As i have not much experience with buying tihigs from mamon. How much is the +4 int -4 men and +4 wit -4 men total in aa, or whatever is used to buy those dyes (i heard that blank scrolls are also used as a way of payment)
I guess I'm the odd man out here but for C grade I went with Karmain and a SoWD with Magic Power but I would suggest Going Demon with the SoWD with Magic Power. Speed is good for PvP but in C grade PvP should not be your main focus, lvl'ing should be. With this combo you will be able to easily take out yellow and light red mobs which is great for xp. The Spellhowler will always cast slow and hit hard. I have always found it is better to concentrate on your strong points and leave the weak points as they are. Besides you can buy casting speed in a bottle (greater magic haste). Power is a bit harder to come by. As for tatoos, the +4 INT-4 Men, +4 WIT -4 MEN, is perfect but if your a lil short on cash there is always the option of going to Giran and buying +4 CON -5 STR, you have NO use for PATK anyway and you'll save a good chunk of change. To sum up the Spellhowler is the prefered party wizard, Big hits and near endless mana (B2M/Corpse Life Drain) and the SpS is the prefered PvP wizard, speed speed speed. Work with your strong points and you will be just that....Strong! Hope that helps ;)
1 more thing . When trading weapons at mamon, for example:
If i trade a homu+4/SA acumen for a SoWD... will i recieve the SoWD again +4 with a SA/magic power (if there are options to choose). or i will get only the SoWD +4 with no SA or only SoWD +0?
SA's don't Transfer with the Even exchange but the + enchantments will. you will only need Ancient Adena to buy Dyes from mamnon and I belive it's about 170k AA per +4 -4 dye. The Scrolls are used to buy enchant armor/weapons as well as BSoE's and BReZ scrolls. As for the question about sleeping mobs and speed...try not to get into thoes situations :P but if you do nuke them till they are close and then use your close range aura attack on the rest just like you said. Should be just fine but no one lives through every mistake even with the best of speed.
Thanks alot. This is very valuable info for me :). And about the items i might go for demon and SoWD/magic power. Ty all for your help and sugestions/comments.
Take care and gl (and lots of drops :))
Thanks alot. This is very valuable info for me :). And about the items i might go for demon and SoWD/magic power. Ty all for your help and sugestions/comments.
Take care and gl (and lots of drops :))
Level well.. make the brotherhood (sisterhood :p ) proud :D
I don't know if the additional con is really worth it with regards to resisting stun. Do I just resist a little or is it significant? Maybe that's what I'll do this weekend and change my tattoos.
The con is definately the tat to get over another +1Wit or +1INT. Trust me, works much better for resisting stun, a bit more hp and can carry more CP pots or sps now.
I will be using Nightmare (only need the helmet now) for A grade because of exactly that reason. Sleep resist.
If you use DC robes before NM, you will hate NM. The cast speed is so slow and lack of run speed irritates me to no end. I only use NM robes now for Raids or Party xp occasionly. DC is simply the best overall robes for SH.
Thanks alot. This is very valuable info for me :). And about the items i might go for demon and SoWD/magic power. Ty all for your help and sugestions/comments.
Take care and gl (and lots of drops :))
DO NOT GET MAGIC POWER SA. Its pure crap and 99% of the other good mages on your server will agree with you. It sucks for PvP and PvE. You will miss the Acumen so bad its sick. Wait till your xping against ranged type mobs like archers in BS and you cant get ur nukes off fast enough because you didn't get Acumen and Acumen is definately the best SA for any Nuker class. Anyone that chooses other then a 1 handed Acumen weapon to pvp with there Nuker just plain doesn't know what they are doing.
I will be using Nightmare (only need the helmet now) for A grade because of exactly that reason. Sleep resist.
If you use DC robes before NM, you will hate NM. The cast speed is so slow and lack of run speed irritates me to no end. I only use NM robes now for Raids or Party xp occasionly. DC is simply the best overall robes for SH.
My thought is that many of the times i've lost to another mage is because of sleep. If I can nullify that threat. In which case I then have my acumen SA on my SOM for 15% and then there are pots.
I have 700 pvps and I barely ever use sleep in PvP nor do I barely ever get slept. Mental Aegis has been nerfed a bit for C4 so have seen increase in getting silenced and slept but still not too often to be frustrated by it or base my tats or armour around it.
I have 700 pvps and I barely ever use sleep in PvP nor do I barely ever get slept. Mental Aegis has been nerfed a bit for C4 so have seen increase in getting silenced and slept but still not too often to be frustrated by it or base my tats or armour around it.
That's good to know. Thx. :)
I might have to try them both out! (**** helmets)
Thanks alot. This is very valuable info for me :). And about the items i might go for demon and SoWD/magic power. Ty all for your help and sugestions/comments.
Take care and gl (and lots of drops :))
DO NOT GET MAGIC POWER SA. Its pure crap and 99% of the other good mages on your server will agree with you. It sucks for PvP and PvE. You will miss the Acumen so bad its sick. Wait till your xping against ranged type mobs like archers in BS and you cant get ur nukes off fast enough because you didn't get Acumen and Acumen is definately the best SA for any Nuker class. Anyone that chooses other then a 1 handed Acumen weapon to pvp with there Nuker just plain doesn't know what they are doing.
I agree. This weekend, I purchased an elemental sword, and put SA magic power on it, figuring I could use the extra matk, and with the SE to back me, the extra mana used wouldn't be a big deal. As for casting speed? Just use the acu3 pot instead of the acu2 pot!!
No.
My casting speed was over 100 less than with sov/acumen. This made me just .. feel.. slow. To top it off, I was xping in valley of saints... Where the mobs get sorta crazy sometimes. The lack of cast speed repeatedly caused my death.. Can't sleep fast enough, etc.
I'm currently in NM with a SoM/Magic Power. I don't really miss the speed that much, but I'm still hunting the Forsaken Plains, and I generally stay away from group mobs since I can't cast Group Sleep anyhow. But I also retained my +10 Homu/Acumen in case I ever need the speed (but I haven't found use for it yet).
I don't really like engaging in PvP either, so again, speed isn't my issue. I find the extra damage does me better for leveling purposes for PvE.
I also used the Demon Set until I got into A grade. It worked just fine alongside my Homu. I decided I just wanted to maximize my damage per spell...but I must agree that casting faster is probably going to let you put out more damage over the same period of time...particularly in PvP.
This alone makes LickN one dangerous [censored] to know on Gustin. :eek: And he's a cool dude in general. :D I usually pay attention to his SH advice. He's been one a lot longer than me!
1. Karm set and homu/acumen
or
3. Demon set and homu/acumen
and your choice of Dyes is perfect.
Avadon robes for B grade pvp and DC robes for A grade PvP. Some still use Demon set into their 70's but I never did. SoM w/Acumen for A grade weapon.
I disagree.
If you can afford, go Demon Set + SowD Magic Power for PvE, and Karmian + Homu/Acu for PvP. But PvP usually does not happen so often while you are in C-Grade, so if you can afford only one set, it will be Demon/SowD.
For B-Grade:
You do NOT (never, never, never!) want Avadon, you want Blue Wulf. It is MUCH faster (on Sorc it gave me about 80 or 90 more cast-speed unbuffed) than Avadon. You make a bit less damage (minus INT), but dont worry.
For PvP Castspeed > Matk.
For PvE you still have your Demon Set. But of course you only wear Demon, when it will save you a shot. If you two-shot anyway, you use BW in PvE as well, faster mana-regen, biggest Mana-Pool.
B-Grade Weapon will be a Overenchanted Homu/Acu or a Valhalla/Acu, whatever you can get at a decent price. SowD-Magic Power is not a good choice after 52, as 99 Matk does not make that much of a difference anymore, and the additional 15% mana-cost is too much.
With the dyes though, I agree, perfect.
[didn't read the whole threat, maybe something was already mentioned]
Actually BW robes will be better than Avadon as B grade PVP set.
+3 wit will give more cast speed, also BW have better pdef.
Possibly, but it's -2 Int. Also, how does +3 wit compare to +15% casting speed?
as far as I know, +3wit would be around 15-16%. Dunno if that would justify the -2int though. I would think not.
Wrong. I tried Avadon and Blue Wulf on my Sorc with +4 Wit tattoo. I don't know how it will effect SH, but it should not be totally different. Here we go:
With Avadon I had roughly 510 castspeed, with Blue Wulf I had a bit more than 590.
Yes I also agree Blue wolf is the ideal choice for many casters. It's generally more pricey as materials and recipes are tougher to get though. I have avadon for my SE and prophet at the moment mostly because I could afford it, but if you have the money and are willing to spend it, BW is the best choice.