Just wanted to be the first to congratulate Erica's first Heros. Well done...you know who you are. Now get to thoes seiges and be a big glowing target lol ;)
Reguardless of all that, Cal, it is a great in-game achivement and these folk deserve credit despite how you may feel about any of them on a personal level.
Not even from this server but Caleria
You are not your post count....
Some ppl play the game some ppl play the forums stop ragging on the people who rather play the game then chat on the games forums.
Reguardless of all that, Cal, it is a great in-game achivement and these folk deserve credit despite how you may feel about any of them on a personal level.
LOL
why cause some of them botted their chars up??
how is that an achivement?
I say for the ones who are legit, and you know who you are, Congrats. thats an accoplishment.
Not even from this server but Caleria
You are not your post count....
Some ppl play the game some ppl play the forums stop ragging on the people who rather play the game then chat on the games forums.
Congratulations !
That is why, Josan was out with Dionesis last night... PKing low level enemies in the dungeons of Goddard. Some honor to be killed by a hero when you are lvl 6x Makes sense to me, lets all go to starter towns and pk the lil ones, wonderful ego booster.
Congratulations !
That is why, Josan was out with Dionesis last night... PKing low level enemies in the dungeons of Goddard. Some honor to be killed by a hero when you are lvl 6x Makes sense to me, lets all go to starter towns and pk the lil ones, wonderful ego booster.
Sorry Cal, but I couldn't hold that one in.
Speaking of honor was it true that some of the Avalon heroes had toss away fights. If fighting their own allies the fights were supposedly thrown to give them victories so they would beat the SP competition in total points. Well I guess if you have toons ebayed to begin with it probably doesn't matter to you that you get to become hero or anything else without earning it. I wonder if there is any point in me ever trying to be hero when I am noblesse only one other toon on Erica of higher level for my class and its an ebayed toon sure they will have points given to them by allies too. So do I cheat and have my allies give me points as well or just say to hell with it? Its unfortunate that every angle of this game has to be corrupted, funny how peoples desire to compete will push them to cheat and utterly destroy the competition.
Congratulations !
That is why, Josan was out with Dionesis last night... PKing low level enemies in the dungeons of Goddard. Some honor to be killed by a hero when you are lvl 6x Makes sense to me, lets all go to starter towns and pk the lil ones, wonderful ego booster.
Sorry Cal, but I couldn't hold that one in.
Were they pking or pvping? Pking yeah thats lame but if ir was PVP and they killed a level 1 or 100 enemy wartag its war its all fair.
Takes the fun out of the game for many, since they aren't willing to do what others will to be on top. It annoys me to see that clans that go the corrupt way are really only ones that can compete for the jewels of Erica, rest of us are just along for the ride.
There are very few clans out there not that are not at war with someone, or has had war declared upon them by someone with a thorn in their "finger". Is there honor in any lvl 75+ ( 2 vs 1 ) when the one is lvl 60's? I guess its just the play on words.. .. ..to be labeled "Hero"
Really makes me laugh behind my screen when they stop in game and say: "If SP gives you any problems just PM "
FIRST:
"Hero zerg" takes on lowbies to satisfy their getto egos, and then shout its all fair in love and war.
SECOND:
Someone once asked where Dionesis got the A - B - C crystals she sold all the time in Giran. Think we can imagine the answer to that one now. Alt toon no doubt.
THIRD:
Iegacy (Avalon) was "once upon a time" known for non botting, non cheating, and non ebaying ethics.
FOURTH:
Stay tuned folks next week they will bring their "Avalon Hero Thug Zerg" to a dungeon or field near you:
EV, Hardins, CrumaTower, EG are always the some of the best ego builders.
DE village, TI village, Gludin for hard core 1 vs 1 watch the "Heros" vs newbies
/applause for the Honorable Big GOLD " A " of Iegacy's Avalon.
Congratulations !
That is why, Josan was out with Dionesis last night... PKing low level enemies in the dungeons of Goddard. Some honor to be killed by a hero when you are lvl 6x Makes sense to me, lets all go to starter towns and pk the lil ones, wonderful ego booster.
Sorry Cal, but I couldn't hold that one in.
LOL, that's why playa and warric frquent dion (not heroes, but 75+). Killing high lvl 60s is alot more honorable than anything SP ever does. You can see a glowing DLM going ganking in all the lowbie catas like mayters and ascetics and other places in groups.
I guarantee that all bar 3 heros are none legit, those 3 have a A tag. All hero means is that SP leechers can act as a homing beacon for their bot trains.
Congratulations !
That is why, Josan was out with Dionesis last night... PKing low level enemies in the dungeons of Goddard. Some honor to be killed by a hero when you are lvl 6x Makes sense to me, lets all go to starter towns and pk the lil ones, wonderful ego booster.
Sorry Cal, but I couldn't hold that one in.
Lunaresse are you an SP alt or something? I can't tell you the number of times I have seen DLM at Ascetics, Pk'ing or as some people even want to try and kill it PvP'ing lowbie 60+ people. If Josan and Dionesis did do this, more power to them. You don't succeed in this game by being the nice guy to your enemy. Just ask people in other alliances who get screwed over being 1 or 2 shotted in a catacomb by some botted FOTC.
Did they PK any true neutrals or people just wanting to enjoy a night with friends? Highly doubtful.
RighteousOne, you need to look in the mirror at your alliance dude. I hope to hell your comments were in jest. Your alliance wears the cheater flag proudly. There is no need to rp based on your toons name.
If (sad that I have to even include the word "if") you did get your Pally to 75 legit'ly gratz and more power to you.
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
If you're getting killed, then declare war.
If you're at war and are getting killed, well, then that's what happens when you declare war.
L2 has been around for a pretty long time now - more than enough time for people to understand what this game is about. The L2 environment isn't going to adapt to accomodate you - you're going to have to adapt to accomodate it.
If you're at war and are getting killed, well, then that's what happens when you declare war.
S-Dog
Isn't that circular logic? lol.
Rephrased:
If I am neutral, and SP PK's me, war them. Then when they come around again, I can blame myself for warring them. If only I had not warred them, Oh wait I was neutral before and they attacked me so did it really make a difference. Nope. Quit blaming yourself for being griefed.
SDOG, I know it is kind of a blanket statement but is it fair to say:
There are no "neutrals" in SP eyes unless maybe you are sharing their vent with them.
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
SDog, very kind of u to give ur opinion. Remember u stand in a well oiled machine of an alliance. On Warcry and other forums Zen and you have been chronicaled how ur enemies keep themselves on the path of self destruction and how SP has been gained more strength cause of it.
Well some of us are done slamming our forheads against the wall in thinking we can defeat SP in our current state. Once u break the mold of "hate SP" u find that there are lot of different opinions on how to play and what to do. Whining ur refering to what some players are for and against. Just so happens the moderator trying keep the forums clean, but really no getting around it when it is a majority of the community.
Well if u want poke fun or insult other posters thats cool, cause ultimately you dont want the rest of the server to succeed( well just enough so they keep fighting u blindly).
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
lol i agree too,
i realy don't understand why almost every post ends in the same discution.
And why players very often advise newbies to go to another server.
Instead, if you want some change in current policy and power-clans, you should take some time to help the new ones ingame, learn them about tactics and give them advise regarding in-game technics. It will be more fun for them, for you. And eventualy out of them there will become a vast number of players who are willing to help you reaching your goal.
never mind if your goal is defeating sp or something else.
Give newbies the right coaching and maybe new blood will change history. :p
lol i agree too,
i realy don't understand why almost every post ends in the same discution.
And why players very often advise newbies to go to another server.
Instead, if you want some change in current policy and power-clans, you should take some time to help the new ones ingame, learn them about tactics and give them advise regarding in-game technics. It will be more fun for them, for you. And eventualy out of them there will become a vast number of players who are willing to help you reaching your goal.
never mind if your goal is defeating sp or something else.
Give newbies the right coaching and maybe new blood will change history. :p
or maybe i'm just to naive :o
nosy
Simple, players in power wish to shape the server they way they want it. You cant handle pvp and greifing then they want u to run long away. Part of the dominate culture that taken grip of Erica and some of us dispise. There is a reason we are the lowest populated server.
I welcome new players and will stick my neck sometimes to help them lvl in some peace, but ultimately its up to them if they wish to remain let alone help shape a new future for Erica. Time will tell thou.
Naive... yes... too naive... only time will tell. ;)
And if anything is more pathetic than my whining it's people whining about my whining.
Cal
I wasn't attacking you in person cal, i'm sorry if it seemed that way.
It's only funny to see that all discutions leads to the same issue.
And about my 'naivity' : i'm not naive irl, but this is a rpg, so i loooooove to play "the naive" :cool:
cya nosy
I welcome new players and will stick my neck sometimes to help them lvl in some peace, but ultimately its up to them if they wish to remain let alone help shape a new future for Erica. Time will tell thou.
Lunaresse are you an SP alt or something? I can't tell you the number of times I have seen DLM at Ascetics, Pk'ing or as some people even want to try and kill it PvP'ing lowbie 60+ people. If Josan and Dionesis did do this, more power to them. You don't succeed in this game by being the nice guy to your enemy. Just ask people in other alliances who get screwed over being 1 or 2 shotted in a catacomb by some botted FOTC.
Did they PK any true neutrals or people just wanting to enjoy a night with friends? Highly doubtful.
<3 DLM?? Took me three days to figure out to who those initials belonged . Sorry I don't recall asking, but point is that in my eyes a hero does not go around 2 vs 1 against those who obviously are not anywhere near "their" level.
But if you think it is okay for Avalon to do this but not for SP too, then it sorta shows where your head is. Kinda hard to breathe in that compromising position. LOL
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
If you're getting killed, then declare war.
If you're at war and are getting killed, well, then that's what happens when you declare war.
L2 has been around for a pretty long time now - more than enough time for people to understand what this game is about. The L2 environment isn't going to adapt to accomodate you - you're going to have to adapt to accomodate it.
Gawd you guys complain a lot.
S-Dog
this is sad, but i've got to agree with you.
even after playing this game as long as i've been around, these last few months i've started to completely understand this game and the people who play it. Even if the enemy cheats, plays dirty, PKs your low lvl people, its still a game, there is no dignity on a battle field, so there shall be no dignity, honor, ect. on this battlefield.
To all the people who complain about SP, if u want to give them hell, quit acting alone, band together, its the only way.
all the other ways have failed.
You are so absolutely right Lunaresse! Next time, I'll be sure to get some people together so that we can have a peace rally at the entrance to the catacomb. I'm sorry we used overwhelming odds to attack an enemy that brought a siege boss into Giran, has permareds outside of Dion and Gludin, trains lowbies in NoS and HC etc...
Can I count on you to hold a sign saying, "NO GANKING!"?
It'll be great. We can fill up the area around the blacksmith so that no one can click on him in the catacomb. Then we all hold hands and sing, "Give Peace a Chance". or "Kumbayah my lord". It'll be awesome. Dwarves will smell adena profit and setup shops around the event selling overpriced animal bones. :)
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
If you're getting killed, then declare war.
If you're at war and are getting killed, well, then that's what happens when you declare war.
L2 has been around for a pretty long time now - more than enough time for people to understand what this game is about. The L2 environment isn't going to adapt to accomodate you - you're going to have to adapt to accomodate it.
Gawd you guys complain a lot.
S-Dog
this is sad, but i've got to agree with you.
even after playing this game as long as i've been around, these last few months i've started to completely understand this game and the people who play it. Even if the enemy cheats, plays dirty, PKs your low lvl people, its still a game, there is no dignity on a battle field, so there shall be no dignity, honor, ect. on this battlefield.
To all the people who complain about SP, if u want to give them hell, quit acting alone, band together, its the only way.
all the other ways have failed.
I disagree. We have banded together, we have had battles to zerg SP. Arguement is will that really work? Will holding together so many players based off their hate SP be enough? Short term possibly but in long term the differences in their personalities will eventually make the alliances explode.
Really if you want to follow the same old, lets bound everyone together and fight SP then join Avalon or form another rebellion.
Others such as myself want unity and not a false sence of it, rules accually enforced and protected, and accually learning to tackle problems instead of hoping we have enough players make up for shortfalls of the tactics. Saddly best examples are from the dominate force, but they got their beyond the typical reasons we complain about. Would it really hurt Erica if players started thinking for themselves instead of following same old bandwagon?
You are so absolutely right Lunaresse! Next time, I'll be sure to get some people together so that we can have a peace rally at the entrance to the catacomb. I'm sorry we used overwhelming odds to attack an enemy that brought a siege boss into Giran, has permareds outside of Dion and Gludin, trains lowbies in NoS and HC etc...
Can I count on you to hold a sign saying, "NO GANKING!"?
It'll be great. We can fill up the area around the blacksmith so that no one can click on him in the catacomb. Then we all hold hands and sing, "Give Peace a Chance". or "Kumbayah my lord". It'll be awesome. Dwarves will smell adena profit and setup shops around the event selling overpriced animal bones. :)
Cheddar, Swiss or Colby ? You appear a bit touchy on this subject ! Remember, " Its just a game !" LOL
Wow. These boards have turned into the biggest whine-fest I've ever seen. It's always "So-and-so PK'd me! He must have cheated!" "So-and-so botts!" Blah, blah, blah. "Oh. Why did they close my thread?" Blah, blah, blah.
If you're getting killed, then declare war.
If you're at war and are getting killed, well, then that's what happens when you declare war.
L2 has been around for a pretty long time now - more than enough time for people to understand what this game is about. The L2 environment isn't going to adapt to accomodate you - you're going to have to adapt to accomodate it.
Gawd you guys complain a lot.
S-Dog
this is sad, but i've got to agree with you.
even after playing this game as long as i've been around, these last few months i've started to completely understand this game and the people who play it. Even if the enemy cheats, plays dirty, PKs your low lvl people, its still a game, there is no dignity on a battle field, so there shall be no dignity, honor, ect. on this battlefield.
To all the people who complain about SP, if u want to give them hell, quit acting alone, band together, its the only way.
all the other ways have failed.
I disagree. We have banded together, we have had battles to zerg SP. Arguement is will that really work? Will holding together so many players based off their hate SP be enough? Short term possibly but in long term the differences in their personalities will eventually make the alliances explode.
Really if you want to follow the same old, lets bound everyone together and fight SP then join Avalon or form another rebellion.
Others such as myself want unity and not a false sence of it, rules accually enforced and protected, and accually learning to tackle problems instead of hoping we have enough players make up for shortfalls of the tactics. Saddly best examples are from the dominate force, but they got their beyond the typical reasons we complain about. Would it really hurt Erica if players started thinking for themselves instead of following same old bandwagon?
no, no we have not banded together, not properly at least.
silentforce will be called apon soon, weither or not they answer that call is up to them.
Umm.. no offence bud but there were 4 alliances under one ventrilo that were focused on fighting SP. Lot of clans and alliances came to the call to fight SP, forgoing their rules, disolving their clans and some alliances.
Wasnt done properly? You can say that after the fact, but ultimately no one merged such a large force together before. Where there lessons to be learned? Yes and we should take them to heart before start rallying the war cry. Erica doesnt need alliances winning a castle or two and holding it for a few weeks then allies turn on themselves or quit working together. Need alliances that create strong foundation and set of guidelines that will keep the peace among the alliance. Once alliances start achieving that, u will start to see real battles for Erica. Where failure at the first seige wont completely destroy the moral of their troops. Where allies wont complain like crazy about one or couple allies who are out of line for they would be terminated from the alliance.
Sorry to get into detail, but why should any player join an alliance/clan that is simply going to die in a month or two's time? Rebuilding and having to learn to trust entire new group suck, atleast for me it does.
Btw, I have no influence over SilentForce as they do over SilentLegion. They are big boys and can take care of themselves. SL works independantly from SF, but we do give them safe haven if they need a break from the war. Claymore or Frioar could better serve u if want SF to get involved in ur cause.
Umm.. no offence bud but there were 4 alliances under one ventrilo that were focused on fighting SP. Lot of clans and alliances came to the call to fight SP, forgoing their rules, disolving their clans and some alliances.
Wasnt done properly? You can say that after the fact, but ultimately no one merged such a large force together before. Where there lessons to be learned? Yes and we should take them to heart before start rallying the war cry. Erica doesnt need alliances winning a castle or two and holding it for a few weeks then allies turn on themselves or quit working together. Need alliances that create strong foundation and set of guidelines that will keep the peace among the alliance. Once alliances start achieving that, u will start to see real battles for Erica. Where failure at the first seige wont completely destroy the moral of their troops. Where allies wont complain like crazy about one or couple allies who are out of line for they would be terminated from the alliance.
Sorry to get into detail, but why should any player join an alliance/clan that is simply going to die in a month or two's time? Rebuilding and having to learn to trust entire new group suck, atleast for me it does.
Btw, I have no influence over SilentForce as they do over SilentLegion. They are big boys and can take care of themselves. SL works independantly from SF, but we do give them safe haven if they need a break from the war. Claymore or Frioar could better serve u if want SF to get involved in ur cause.
Just give me a chance, I can and will rally the forces,
SP will soon have a solid force to worry about, and not a bunch of disorganized clans.
Anycase, whats going on, eh? Revolt? Revolution? Uprising of the small men?
If I wouldn't have seen so many attempts in the same matter going horribly wrong I could almost get that warm feeling inside again. :)
Cal
This one isnt going to go wrong.
Im sorry but just the way u go about it reminds me of John Kerry and how he had this big plan on how to get everything solved. When u asked him to define this great plan of his, he couldnt tell ya or kept saying its too complicated.
Talk big, but I dont see u laying down some strong framework to make a correct version of the coalition. I dont get the impression u have a means of communcations among the other clans and alliance set up either. Like ur bluffing with bad hand, and ur poker face sucks.
Anycase, whats going on, eh? Revolt? Revolution? Uprising of the small men?
If I wouldn't have seen so many attempts in the same matter going horribly wrong I could almost get that warm feeling inside again. :)
Cal
This one isnt going to go wrong.
Im sorry but just the way u go about it reminds me of John Kerry and how he had this big plan on how to get everything solved. When u asked him to define this great plan of his, he couldnt tell ya or kept saying its too complicated.
Talk big, but I dont see u laying down some strong framework to make a correct version of the coalition. I dont get the impression u have a means of communcations among the other clans and alliance set up either. Like ur bluffing with bad hand, and ur poker face sucks.
LOL
this is a game, and im not trying to solve dept problems the USA has created.
Ever here of vent? ooo ooo, what about in game PMs?
yea ive been talkin with everyone.
just cause you havent heard of it, doesnt mean its not happening.
you think im going to go and post the plans of whats going to happen on a public forum?
Anycase, whats going on, eh? Revolt? Revolution? Uprising of the small men?
If I wouldn't have seen so many attempts in the same matter going horribly wrong I could almost get that warm feeling inside again. :)
Cal
This one isnt going to go wrong.
Im sorry but just the way u go about it reminds me of John Kerry and how he had this big plan on how to get everything solved. When u asked him to define this great plan of his, he couldnt tell ya or kept saying its too complicated.
Talk big, but I dont see u laying down some strong framework to make a correct version of the coalition. I dont get the impression u have a means of communcations among the other clans and alliance set up either. Like ur bluffing with bad hand, and ur poker face sucks.
LOL
this is a game, and im not trying to solve dept problems the USA has created.
Ever here of vent? ooo ooo, what about in game PMs?
yea ive been talkin with everyone.
just cause you havent heard of it, doesnt mean its not happening.
you think im going to go and post the plans of whats going to happen on a public forum?
I don't know about my former allies who worked with me in first Coalition of alliances. I appaud ur desire to fight and build another organized resistance. I would gladly point out the problems we experienced and some ideas to improve it. Go get'm Tiger!
Just seeing some person constantly claiming they will do better than what we did yet no real evidence. Keep making little comments saying u will do better starts to gets offencive after a while. Why not champion ur achievements with this new organization to help build support?
Ultimately I hope u do pull some wins and stay true to ur good sportsmenship ways.
Meh just remember everything in L2 takes time... lots of time and plenty of dedication all the way.
I really doubt Conan or anyone else for that matter will revolutionize the server and solve all it's problem in a week's time. People with too much enegery and time on their hands like HK were pretty close, but look how badly he screwed up in the end! No need to retry it that way, no thanks. :)
If Conan can keep it up and has a lucky hand with politics, I go with lets wait and see and have a cup of tea. I have no idea what Conan is up to or capable of, so I won't be too rash with my conclusions and predictions.
Good points. Alrighty Conan, I wish u luck. I'm just going to sit back and let u do ur thing. Worse comes to worse I can always use the "ignore" feature. :D
Good points. Alrighty Conan, I wish u luck. I'm just going to sit back and let u do ur thing. Worse comes to worse I can always use the "ignore" feature. :D
Meh, whatever you do, people love to be unthankful, even in advance, especially to those who do good to them. :)
Cal
Like i said before
I'm not trying to make a name, I just want to get on this game, and not have to deal with drama, every single day. it gets boring.
and i want to gather the forces so that SP has something solid to fight agaisnt, instead of a bunch of clans all fighting for the same purpose but not working together.
Wether or not they bot their characters or not, they will still have to fight and continue to fight for the spot, even against their fellow boters. So grats on the hero position to all who made it there.
Wether or not they bot their characters or not, they will still have to fight and continue to fight for the spot, even against their fellow boters. So grats on the hero position to all who made it there.
lol
uhh, no.
most of the heros this early got bye's and had their friends let them win.
I dought many people would let even a friend just take the spot, i know i wouldn't. I beleave that everyone wants to be the best. So even if some of the spots were just given to people. There will eventually be players who will challenge them for it. By the way conan the Phoenix Knight hero spot, and many others still haven't been taken. So lets not make excuses and start filling up those hero positions.
I dought many people would let even a friend just take the spot, i know i wouldn't. I beleave that everyone wants to be the best. So even if some of the spots were just given to people. There will eventually be players who will challenge them for it. By the way conan the Phoenix Knight hero spot, and many others still haven't been taken. So lets not make excuses and start filling up those hero positions.
do u know how hard it is to lvl up a melee char with out botting?
very hard
mages lvl 6xs faster than melee
also, yes the spots where givin away.
DLM, was givin the spot by playa.
ask him playa anytime, just cause your a hero doesnt mean ur a badass char. it just means your a glow light.
Yes i know exactly howe hard it is to lvl a melee character without botting; I've lvled a 76 destroyer and on erica im lvling a DA (you know me, noob by the name of maximos) its **** near impossible. But it doesnt mean it cant be done.
Yes i know exactly howe hard it is to lvl a melee character without botting; I've lvled a 76 destroyer and on erica im lvling a DA (you know me, noob by the name of maximos) its **** near impossible. But it doesnt mean it cant be done.
u are a noob.
hurry up and get ur *** to 40.
noob
lol
I'll be waiting for my DA counter part soon.
least u can do better damage than me, pallys are like trying to cut down a tree with a butter knife.