I've seen so many people pvp padding by killing level 1 alts on a 2nd box it's sickening :confused:. So how about adding an avg level to the pvp score. Then we can see who's that leet sauce with 1000+ pvp score and the avg level of the kill is ONE. Anyone have opinions on this?
I've seen so many people pvp padding by killing level 1 alts on a 2nd box it's sickening :confused:. So how about adding an avg level to the pvp score. Then we can see who's that leet sauce with 1000+ pvp score and the avg level of the kill is ONE. Anyone have opinions on this?
PvP points, like postcounts and recommends, are completely worthless, as far as game mechanics go. Who cares if people "cheat" to get them?
normally it would anger me but honestly, I pity them. They are so pathetic that they have to do that I really can't do or say anything to make them feel shiittier than they already are.
They are most likely De-Lvling not pvp padding. PvP point are not visable by other players, and make no difference at all. The only way other people an see your pvp score is through screen shots.
There are no Pro's and no Con's to increasing your pvP score, unlike WoW, it means NOTHING. It simply shows how many times you have killed a pruple named character, nothing else and nothing more.
How do you know their level 1 and not just naked? It also it not actually slower as you have to run to find the guards and that can take time.
Also what your moaning about i dont understand, it serves no purpose to anyone, if they want to do it, so be it, it means NOTHING. They gain nothing from it at all. Please understand that haveing a high PvP count in lineage2 does nothing. NOTHING. They do not gain any special 1337 titles or any extra pvp skill.
How do you know their level 1 and not just naked? It also it not actually slower as you have to run to find the guards and that can take time.
Also what your moaning about i dont understand, it serves no purpose to anyone, if they want to do it, so be it, it means NOTHING. They gain nothing from it at all. Please understand that haveing a high PvP count in lineage2 does nothing. NOTHING. They do not gain any special 1337 titles or any extra pvp skill.
You must cheat on your pvp score cause you're so against this. No matter next time I see it I'll just drop em. No it's not harder to find guards because you have to exit the town to pvp and on the way out what do you see? Ohhh it's GUARDS.
Yes they're level cause I have ganked the toons a few times.
WTF lol!?!? You cant see my pvp score so how does it affect you? You cant look at my score to find out how good i am at pvp, even if you could it wouldnt mean jack. Please explain to me why you think pvp scores are so important?
If it wasn't so important to you then why are you arguing so much against it? Me? I just like to argue. Period.
Then you need to post a valid argument as to why it needs to be changed. In my humble opinion, any change request automatically has a higher burden of proof as to why it needs to be changed. So far, you haven't come close.
As much as I hate to admit, SPS has adequately argued as to why no change is needed. If you can't see it, if it doesn't affect game mechanics whatsoever then no change is necessary.
I would go so far as to say recommends are a bigger problem than PvP points simply because you can see the effects.
Pvp score is often used as a bragging tool. But it does not reflect anything other than someone has killed 1000+ purple players. If an average score was posted with it then it would be more meaningful. Someone killing 500 level 60+ would mean more than someone killing 3000 level ones. If fact if I was level 75 and my avg pvp score was 5 then I'd be very ashamed to post it.
If you want to brag about your score then lie. At no time ever ingame has any1 asked me what my pvP score was. No 1 cares. It means nothing. Someone with a pvp score of 0 can be far more experianced and better at pvp then someone with a score of a million. This system is only ingame so as we can have a little cofidence boost now and then when we look at it. No 1 would really give two craps if it was removed totally, its just a nice, unneeded feature, just like evaluations.
If you want to brag about your score then lie. At no time ever ingame has any1 asked me what my pvP score was. No 1 cares. It means nothing. Someone with a pvp score of 0 can be far more experianced and better at pvp then someone with a score of a million. This system is only ingame so as we can have a little cofidence boost now and then when we look at it. No 1 would really give two craps if it was removed totally, its just a nice, unneeded feature, just like evaluations.
You could get very **** with detail on the PvP points to assure fair comparisons.
For example, what about circumstance?
Did the player you just killed spend 6months in a server dominating cheatfest alliance or did he get his 75 through 12 months of hard earned XP?
Is the guy you killed worth more points cause he has a +16 Homu compared to your +8?
There are so many variables it would be somewhat impossible to ever achieve fairness in the PvP scoring system. At best you could hope to do it based upon level and assume that everyone having reached a certain grade mastery would have a full range of that gear on at the time of death. But as levels change you can't do it the way you suggest.
It's far easier for a level 78 to kill another level 78 than it is for a level 65 to kill a level 78. Both should not reward in the same way. At least make it about level difference. However, this still wont take into consideration class advantages and the amount of people involved in the specific fight.
You can hope to achieve a decent ranking system by way of a dueling or pvp ladder system. With the right variables considered a ladder system could work for all types of organised fights in L2. A small set of rules would be associated with ladder fights and away you go. The L2 Battle Tournament could be expanded upon into an ongoing ladder based competition.
Unfortunately while writing this I realise it's somewhat pointless to go to so much effort in order to get a fair or accurate ranking system given the cheating habits and attitudes of many players. These people would always warp the figures or even dominate them in some cases. The hero system being added so early already rewards this type of player enough, best not to go overboard.