Shield Stun on flagged players?

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How come a human warrior/dwarf and other classes with stun can stun people in open pvp but a tank cannot use shield stun unless in arena (maybe siege's also notsure)... we obviously as tanks dont get attack skills but why not allow us to stun in open pvp when others can try to stun us.. ?
because shield stun is one of the best stuns in game.

it has a short re-use timer, and if used in pvp (youd know if u did in arena) that you can pretty much stun anyone if you can get close enough to do it. that said you could get the upper hand seeing as the shield will block melee user's hits.

hell, my lowbie human knight can shield stun an orc 8 lvls higher.
Well if it works in arena why doesnt it work outside of the arena? Doesn't make sense... if in game terms wth stops me from stunnign someone with my shield? it's just dumb game mechanics preventing me from doing outsdie of the arena..
ANY skill who DO NOT deal damage on it's initial attack can't be used on non flaged peoples.

The reason is that they can be used to drop peopels in PvE and make the mobs kill them and you have no risk what so ever to go red doing so.
ofc it's flawed as it is:
since u can heal players CP
you can heal the player him/herself
you can use you choro to stun (or short bow).

ANY skill who DO NOT deal damage on it's initial attack can't be used on non flaged peoples.

The reason is that they can be used to drop peopels in PvE and make the mobs kill them and you have no risk what so ever to go red doing so.



Shield stun doesnt even work on flagged players in open pvp? That's really dumb I find.... but %$^# happens...
You can shield stun flagged players, it may be that your trying to stun during a open clan war, make sure your target is flagged, and there should be no troubles.

You can shield stun flagged players, it may be that your trying to stun during a open clan war, make sure your target is flagged, and there should be no troubles.



I've some to realize that I was in a party with the guy that tried to kill me when i tried to stunhim.... ty ty :) hehe dont i feel dumb... thanks for the info
Unless it's a Mob. The Only skills you can use on a white player, are skills that Cause initial Damage to the target.
Such as, Twister, Double shot, Hammer crush.. ect.

If it does Dmg, you can use it one a white player, if it's liek Poison, or sleep, it doesn't cause damage with the first cast. so it cannot be used,

Shield stun, does no damage, so it can't be used on a white player.



edit- I'm not referring to clan wars in this. just white characters.
clan wars and white chars work the same way..

Unless it's a Mob. The Only skills you can use on a white player, are skills that Cause initial Damage to the target.
Such as, Twister, Double shot, Hammer crush.. ect.

If it does Dmg, you can use it one a white player, if it's liek Poison, or sleep, it doesn't cause damage with the first cast. so it cannot be used,

Shield stun, does no damage, so it can't be used on a white player.



edit- I'm not referring to clan wars in this. just white characters.



to clarify this a bit only a skill that can kill someone will work on non flagged, poison doesnt count cause u can be at 1 hp, poisoned, and not die

clan wars and white chars work the same way..



gotta hold control. and use can use poison, shield stun, ect. they're "like a mob" but, you have to hold control.
Lol.. you've always gotta hold control.

I actually made macros for all my normal skills on a special hotbar..

/useskillforce prominence

^^

How come a human warrior/dwarf and other classes with stun can stun people in open pvp but a tank cannot use shield stun unless in arena (maybe siege's also notsure)... we obviously as tanks dont get attack skills but why not allow us to stun in open pvp when others can try to stun us.. ?



I dont know why but i can stun in certain areas but not others. You can stun out of the PvP areas but just not everywere. but only on Flagged.

Lol.. you've always gotta hold control.

I actually made macros for all my normal skills on a special hotbar..

/useskillforce prominence

^^



I'm not sure if you mean during pvp, or just one white characters.

if it's a white character, yes you have to hold control, to initiate combat, and PK the player, unless they flag back.

If the player is purple, you don't need to hold control.

I was just stating, if the player is purple, you can use shield stun, without holding control. if the player is white, you can't because the attack does not apply a Damage count.

^^;
in chronicle 1 shield stun was unbreakable, many people complained because DA was the ultimate arena bunny and it was nerfed so now they have a skill which doesn't work on whites when it should.

Lightning strike however shouldn't work on whites at all, it has no chance of killing someone and paralyses for 2 minutes but these things take forever to get fixed.

(btw I DO know it has a low land rate but not on people much lower level it lands everytime especially those with low WIT that also happen to be the classes which outrun mobs).
Shield stun, sleep, root work only on flaged players becouse griefing.
If someone can chain stun with very high % and never get PK count = griefers paradise.
If someone can AE sleep or AE root full party of ppls and let them die in dungeon and never get PK count = griefers paradise.

So realy stop asking why they work only on red/purple or in PvP area - without this restriction this game will be unplayable.