Interesting idea, but servers that have super zerg sides usually have the castles also. Maybe if there was a time limit or something for when the casltes approved list can kill it until it is free for all.
For example, if you own aden, you can approve who you want to kill, but they only have a hour to kill it before it is free for anyone. This can create some pvp for raid bosses, will help slow down the raid farmers.
Just thought of this while writting this up.
Who ever is signed up to defend the caslte, and their side still holds the castle after the siege, they are the clans that are put on the list. If the castle is taken over, then the clan that took it are the only ones on the list. This will limit clans from taking castles with their alt clans that have one person if they want to do raids.
Special bosses like antharas, baium, lilith.... they do not count for this.
This could be one of the first parts the territory wars that are rumored to happen later on in the game.
I think in order for farmers to take over a castle, they will need to have 100 people or so. Then, they arent going to be splitting the adena between 100 people. Right now they are splitting it between like 10 people max. They would loss even more then to just wait it out or maybe, farm normal mobs.
A dominating farmer alliance that PvPs, locks down area and even siges has happened on Devianne. I wasn't there to see it, but ask any older Deviannan about the Dragon Wars (what a cool name xD), and I'm sure they'll be glad to tell you.
Would be a good thing if it happened to other servers - it has left Devianne being more purist about botting, ebaying and so on than any of the other servers now (although there are still plenty of cheaters around >:/ ), and I'm sure it could do something similar to other servers if farmers sat on the throne for a while.
And Goldshlager, your numbers are way out there. I am firmly convinced that DeagonSoul of Devianne could seize control of a castle in a surprise attack - and that they wouldn't hold it because of the Devianne background.
The top farmer clans do not "split" money - they pool it. And they have no problem gathering a bigger force if they can't raid without it.
actually even if they would try, they would be all at the same place and at the same time, something many people would like. it would be a massacre and if they actually try to take a castle and big alliance helps them... well you know who to hunt/blame for the bot protectionism.
Actually, I think if you took it one step further then it might make castles even more desirable.
Make it so that there are special dungeons that are only acessible to alliances that hold a castle.
This way people might have a greater desire to siege. The dungeons could have particular raid bosses inside them.
Basically you are saying to get rid of the 50k buy in to dawn lol.
I'm not sure I believe in the buy in to dawn. I can understand the reason it exists because it makes sense that non castle owning clans might support a particular clan or Alliance that owns a castle and they want to contribute to them staying in power.
In Theory
What it does boil down to is "I need to see Mammon".
But I wonder if there were "private" Dungeons beneath the castles, each one different with different rewards but ONLY accessible by the alliance/clan that holds the castle, if people would want to actually hold castles.
It could even be expanded that they can be entered by non clan or non alliance if someone in the ruling clan/alliance is in the party. Or a majority percentage.
Just a though in response to the suggestion. It doesn't make sense to have a Raid boss only killable by an alliance but it does make more sense to have access to it's lair to the ruling castle lord (and various groupies and hangers-on.)
imo there should be a new big boss created for each territory. This boss doesn't need to be in a dungeon, but just wondering the territory with its minions. The boss will agro any member of castle owning alliance and only the castle owning alliance can kill him. If the boss is not killed in two weeks, the boss sieges the castle. If the boss takes the castle, the castle reverts to npc control.
But I wonder if there were "private" Dungeons beneath the castles, each one different with different rewards but ONLY accessible by the alliance/clan that holds the castle, if people would want to actually hold castles.
All that would lead to, would be 24/7 botting and powerleveling services.
But I wonder if there were "private" Dungeons beneath the castles, each one different with different rewards but ONLY accessible by the alliance/clan that holds the castle, if people would want to actually hold castles.
All that would lead to, would be 24/7 botting and powerleveling services.
Ít would increase what we have now, and be alot more safe, since they wouldn't have opposing alliances to worry about down in the dungeon. Heck, if it was open for others, I bet you'd see "bot in our dungeon with no risk, only 50 bucks per month" on certain forums *sigh*
But I wonder if there were "private" Dungeons beneath the castles, each one different with different rewards but ONLY accessible by the alliance/clan that holds the castle, if people would want to actually hold castles.
All that would lead to, would be 24/7 botting and powerleveling services.
as opposed to what we have now?
That's my thought as well.
If you are going to bot you are going to bot.
I think we could make castles even more desirable. Why just have chocolate cake when you can also have fresh whipped cream.
Apparently you guys just don't have enough dessert in your lives. :)
Ít would increase what we have now, and be alot more safe, since they wouldn't have opposing alliances to worry about down in the dungeon. Heck, if it was open for others, I bet you'd see "bot in our dungeon with no risk, only 50 bucks per month" on certain forums *sigh*
So really bad idea.
yea... I can't agree with your line of reasoning... all suggestions should come with the general theory that NCsoft will ban all bots and violators of the eula.
as for increaseing what we have now... it wouldn't... a cheater is going to cheat no matter how hard or easy it is. A legit player is going to remain legit.