Notice to All Lionna (7 signs)

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Dusk has won. It will always win now. Strife takes taxes down to 5% max.

Dion rate is 15%
Giran rate is 10%
Oren is 15%
Aden is 15%
Godard is 15%

I think you know what needs to be done. Imagine the SS and bsps price at a capped out tax.
Sucks for the people that hunt in cat/necros all the time. I actually like the dusk sky being back.
Non castle holding clans/alliances will actually have to make a decision now. At the least. This will make the server interesting again.

Sucks for the people that hunt in cat/necros all the time. I actually like the dusk sky being back.



No, now they don't have to pay 50k to get those benefits, and soon be overcharged for stuff.
Could someone explain to me what this means for an old player just returned and clanless.Im still lost on the 7signs thing.
Castle holding alliances are Dawn. Non castle holding alliances are dusk unless they pay 50k to join dawn as well or get a pass to join from a castle holder.

The necrops are 1 seal, the catas are another. And a thrid allows for a maximum tax rate and also for allowing things at castle sieges.

For the last 7 months ever since early C3 everyone was going dawn. It was a lock to win. Every week all people were allowed to go to catas and necros since dawn always won and dusk always lost.

This last festival week all of Chaos alliance went Dusk against there rival Invincible. And they ninja'ed the festivals and won 2 seals.

It makes it so Invincible can't use the priest to port. Can't hunt in Necropolis, Can't hunt in Catacombs or see the blacksmith or trader of mammom.

But biggest of all it allows Chaos to be the solo alliance allowed to go to kill Anakim and level 11 and 12 SA crystals. And only alliance allowed to use priest and go to catas and necs.

It also shows that there will be competition again for seals. So now its not an automatic choice to go dawn. The non castle holding alliances actaully have a choice to make

Could someone explain to me what this means for an old player just returned and clanless.Im still lost on the 7signs thing.



basically there are supposed to be two sides: Dawn= castle holders and friends, dusk= non castle holders. You can buy into dawn for 50k though (pre 2nd class change it is free). That is considered one of the major flaws of the system. There are three seals, each gives a different sort of effect for winning. Seal of Avarice allows entry to Necropolis labeled dungeons during Winning week, Seal of Gnosis allows access to Catacomb dungeons during winning week, and Strife generally benefits any non castle holding player. They are good xp spots,especially in groups. And Catacombs/Necros are the only place to kill lilth and thus get level 11 and 12 SA crystals. hmm hope that helps, can't think of anything else. But feel free to read over the info under Library>Seven Signs and pm me any questions, will see if I can answer them ;)
dno if you could consider it a "ninja" as inv called out all the stops in order to try and stop them.

Hero group of 5 and 4 others in S-grade/A-grade couldnt beat Chaos's group in the No Limit festival.

GF though
...Except that dusk didn't win Strife. GG

...Except that dusk didn't win Strife. GG



You can't win 3 seals at one time if didn't previously own one. Takes 35% to take a seal.....35*3 > 100

Now dusk owns 2.....30% needed or less to maintain. Getting all 3 is easy now.

...Except that dusk didn't win Strife. GG



As Shmoo made you feel stupid. GG
was unaware I said "ninja"
as soon as chaos take a castle they are forced to join dawn...

but then again they prolly wont siege us now :p

as soon as chaos take a castle they are forced to join dawn...

but then again they prolly wont siege us now :p



So, why do castle holders have to join Dawn? Why can't castle-holders choose as well?
Because the Lords of Dawn are defined within the game lore as the castle owners. The Revolutionaries of Dusk are those who would undermine the authority of the Kingdom to control the seals and free Shilen.

At least, that's how the story goes.
I believe its only 10% needed to hold a seal, 35% to take a seal. It'd be easy to take strife if dusk gets itself organized next time. Dawn will never win strife. Too many non-castle holders sign up for dawn and don't want the increased tax rate we'd get if dawn won strife.
I have no ties to any of the alliances or clans (only have heard their names) but I must say, I think it's awesome that Dusk won!

Reading up on the Seven Signs is what got me to try out this game back in November. I always said I'd join Dusk and fight for the underdogs. Unfortunately, as soon as I started playing I realized that no one even tries for Dusk and goes for the 'easy way' out. Myself included. I was very saddened as I always thought this contest to be a very creative way of having fun server contests, something that Lineage was supposed to be about. But, like everyone else, I signed up for Dawn and went hunting and forgot about Seven Signs.

Until lastnight.

Most of my friends were unhappy with the debuffs and unable to go to the catacombs but I was ecstatic! Yes, I had a debuff in town and yes, I couldn't go to some nice hunting spots but wow! Entertainment! Excitement! Isn't this what we play this game for? If we just wanted unimpeded PvE grinding there are plenty of other games like that out there.

I hope Chaos et al can keep this up and make Lionna a real contest out of the Seven Signs! I'll be signing up for Dusk!

:)
If you give me my 5m aa I have sitting at priest of Dawn I will join Dusk

or wait.
I won't it is in contrary to my character's beliefs
Prepare for Dawn to fight from the very beginning!

or wait.
I won't it is in contrary to my character's beliefs
Prepare for Dawn to fight from the very beginning!



Yeah, I heard about that. I don't RP much but I do enjoy it now and then and have some RP friends I was chatting with lastnight and asking about the fun of fighting for Dusk but she mentioned that since their clan is a "good" RP clan they have to side with Dawn.

I know Dusk are the non-castle owners but I guess to me the castle owners should be more evil than the others ;)

If you give me my 5m aa I have sitting at priest of Dawn I will join Dusk

or wait.
I won't it is in contrary to my character's beliefs
Prepare for Dawn to fight from the very beginning!



thats why you don't turn in until someone wins.

Btw....WTS 50m AA at 1:2!

have a nice week ;)
SIGN DUSK!!!!
Believe it or not, the competition for the seals is not about good or evil. It's about control.

The Empire wants to keep the seals for their own good, so they can control the populace. The Revolutionaries want to take the seals away so that they can take the control from the Empire.

As for me, now I actually have a reason to follow my character's actual desire and sign dusk. I've been blurring the line between IC and OOC to cater to the screwed-up mechanics for so long...

Unfortunately, I don't think I can, as I'm a part of a castle-owning alliance.
DUSK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...Except that dusk didn't win Strife. GG



As Shmoo made you feel stupid. GG


That wasn't my point, ****.

Dusk should've put the 35% towards strife if it really is the most important one. Why delay it 2 weeks unless you're truly incompetent?



...Except that dusk didn't win Strife. GG



As Shmoo made you feel stupid. GG


That wasn't my point, ****.

Dusk should've put the 35% towards strife if it really is the most important one. Why delay it 2 weeks unless you're truly incompetent?



taxes aren't quite as important as taking away the castle holders leveling spot, chance at RB, ability to have cheap nice ports through the priests, take away access to BS and merchant of mammon. Anything I am missing?

!SH lf Dusk Festival Group ;)

Believe it or not, the competition for the seals is not about good or evil. It's about control.



I don't belive. What about a violent dusk moon? It's only about control too? 0.o
Its not necissarily good and evil, its the agenda of the liberation of shilen, or her continued restraint. If you want some psychotic dark elf goddess bent on the destruction of the world :looks to the moon: then there ya go! Anyway hopefully this is a wakeup call that the status quo well isnt. Long live the Elmoreaden empire and the lords of dawn!

taxes aren't quite as important as taking away the castle holders leveling spot, chance at RB, ability to have cheap nice ports through the priests, take away access to BS and merchant of mammon. Anything I am missing?



SA crystals. This is great news, Chaos really pulled a wedgie on Invincible this time.


I don't belive. What about a violent dusk moon? It's only about control too? 0.o



There is good and evil involved, as Turalyon pointed out, but it has gone from simply a matter of principle to a matter of control.
sorry but i had to kick this post :P

gg

so any compensation for ppl who choosed dusk this time :eek:

sorry but i had to kick this post :P

gg

so any compensation for ppl who choosed dusk this time :eek:



wouldnt be so arrogant ^^
you were 90 mins away from dusk owning all 3 seals ;)

us on the otherhand, we have to project confidence when going up against a large majority

sorry but i had to kick this post :P

gg

so any compensation for ppl who choosed dusk this time :eek:



OMG BURNS WAS RIGHT!!! lol
Even though i dun really like you awsome, i have to give yur team gratzz for sneaking the 31- from us, that really set us off.

GG, and cya in a week :)

Even though i dun really like you awsome, i have to give yur team gratzz for sneaking the 31- from us, that really set us off.

GG, and cya in a week :)



They didn't sneak it.
Just that we wernt expecting that is what i ment :)

Just that we wernt expecting that is what i ment :)



I guess Chaos shouldn't be surprised the one festival that kicked us was 31-. Thats the one that I am sure Mirage would be best at >.> And only one they could do to hurt


Just that we wernt expecting that is what i ment :)



I guess Chaos shouldn't be surprised the one festival that kicked us was 31-. Thats the one that I am sure Mirage would be best at >.> And only one they could do to hurt



yea tough decision to do it with our mains and hope we dont delevel


wouldnt be so arrogant ^^
you were 90 mins away from dusk owning all 3 seals ;)

us on the otherhand, we have to project confidence when going up against a large majority



You need 35% to control a seal
3 seals = 105%

Its basic math Snadron, even you should know only 2 seals can be taken
that's true you need 35% to take a seal but only 11 % or so to retain it. So if dusk had won with at least 11 % in the other two they would have held all 3.

You need 35% to control a seal
3 seals = 105%

Its basic math Snadron, even you should know only 2 seals can be taken



ROFL
Didnt know about the 10% to retain it ... :o
That would have been cool. Noone's managed to win strife on Lionna yet. Its gotta happen eventually though.

That would have been cool. Noone's managed to win strife on Lionna yet. Its gotta happen eventually though.


It will not be cool, it will be 25% taxes. Can you imagine how much all wil cost with Aden tking 25% and Giran taking 25%, and those 2 stack. :mad: