Daggers

Are dagger based characters supposed to miss their mortal blows this much? Seems I miss 50% of em and sometime when I land one it does crit damage for pitiful amounts. Does it get better with time or is it a waste?

Daggers used to be the [censored].

Then they called in a guy with a Chain gun and shot the living hell out of all dagger users untill they were crap.

But things seem to be getting better for them :)

daggers are in NO way really that bad, they just used to be gods, and now they are average, and when their specials land very good even.

if your mb does low dmg you probebly hitting on heavy armor users, or very high lvl mobs. my daggers usually hit mobs for over half their HP with their MB

>>my daggers usually hit mobs for over half their HP with their MB
True even in late 60's. VS had a serious lift in c4. (this includes DW). W/ Fire dance MB is deadly... DB+VS+DW+Firedance is usually 100% one hit or 1x hp mobs (when it lands).
Daggers are more than ok DD PvE, problem is PvP. Lack of CP, magic resistance, non-landing special, etc. Still a fun class to play.

What do you mean Daggers are a problem now with pvp?

Any pointers or natural things i should do when PvPing as a rogue? Do human dagger's have any kind of snare ability to help them out?

nope human daggers are not the kite killers

they only have dash, and its on a slow reuse timer. it gives you a small speed boost for like 10 seconds :/ play a TH if you go against other melee, and you`ll dish out decent dmg, but if someone runs, not much you can do about it :p

>>it gives you a small speed boost for like 10 seconds
Small?? it'd over 60 run speed and reuse time is a few minutes w/ haste2. (really low reuse w/ full buffs [fury dance+zerk+dc light]).

Btw, to HEs use dash/UE w/ dagger if you wish much faster reuse (and 'casting').

And only elves have real chance to escape. (btw keep elven mithril set in the inventory if you plan to chase oponents, could be risky to fight w/, though you need fast requipment)

Cool. Appreciate the advice.

Dude sorry to break it to you but you will miss alot. Not only do you miss alot but it does not get any better. If anything it gets worse.

I have been playing a TH since early C1 and daggers were fine then. In C2 VS gave us a huge boost. Everybody talks about how god like daggers were in C2. But in reality it was about 50/50 against mages and archers. Unlike now where its like 10% daggers win 90% mages/archers win.

The thing most daggers want is thier landing rates back. Now some say in C4 that they have increased this. But i have found out it is a lil worse thatn C3 :mad: What NCsoft needs to do is give us our landing rates back and leave in the Pdef affecting dagger special moves. I think this would make alot of daggers happier.