Okay, this morning, I woke up and wanted to check out, if my sellshop had sold my stuff during the night. To my surprise, I found myself sitting outside the Martyr's Necropolis in Giran area. There must have been atleast 100 sell/buy shops there, me included.
Being like wth happened there, I made a pertition to the GM to figure out if this was a bug or something like that. I got the following reply:
IMO it figures. What I don't understand is that when I went to bed, my shop was no where near another players shop. So, either some players added some shops nearby my own, or else the room between the shops has to be so broad that my old man can fit in them. Also, to me it would be more "safe" for the players, if NC could teleport those "beinjg-too-close" shops elsewhere, like somewhere else in town or maybe even to the race track.
I had the same thing happening to me once. someone told me that it has something to do with the seven signs and someone dragging mobs fom a necro to town, so that people who aren't signed up are teleported outside of the necro. don't know if thats really the reason, but it sounds like it could...
This happened before on Sieghardt. There were people at Martyrs dragging aggro mobs onto the shops that had been ported there.
I would have thought that this would be at the top of NCSofts bug list unless they have already agreed to refund any losses that may be caused by having a toon mysteriously ported out of a safezone.
PS. Judging by that response I would suggest that the GM did no investigation and probably didn't even read your petition properly. Customer service ftw!!!
Well, I wouldnt say my shop was "in the middle of everything", but apparently too close to others. But I can't really see the problem if people are able to move around me.
This happened before on Sieghardt. There were people at Martyrs dragging aggro mobs onto the shops that had been ported there.
I would have thought that this would be at the top of NCSofts bug list unless they have already agreed to refund any losses that may be caused by having a toon mysteriously ported out of a safezone.
PS. Judging by that response I would suggest that the GM did no investigation and probably didn't even read your petition properly. Customer service ftw!!!
No, wait just a minute... Toons get teleported by the GMs because they block the cities? I may a n00b, but I haven't heard of that before. But if it's really happening, then how come Giran is allways so packed you can't even chat because of the lag.. let alone moving through the city. I don't get it... :confused:
EDIT: And another thing. What briliant mind came up with the idea that in order to clear up the cities of afk shops, we just teleport them outside the safe zone... That's just train bait. I mean, yeah, sthing must be done with the traffic in the cities, but I really don't think that's the way.
No, wait just a minute... Toons get teleported by the GMs because they block the cities? I may a n00b, but I haven't heard of that before. But if it's really happening, then how come Giran is allways so packed you can't even chat because of the lag.. let alone moving through the city. I don't get it... :confused:
If you can't get through an area, petition and the GMs will move the offending shops. They will move the shops to another location within the town. Not outside!
The OP, however, was affected by an exploit. The person(s) that caused it are subject to banning.
Huh? I read the posts, but didn't understand... How can someone, by an exploit, get from the city outside a catacomb? :confused: I don't get it, that's why I assumed it was GM related.
I also thought it was GM related to start with. But after seeing the "evidence", I figured it was, as mentioned before, an exploid. And we can't tell how this exploid works, because it's prohibited to post such things.
I'm sorry you had the scare and real possibility of being outside of a safe zone.
I am also curious about how this was being exploited.
At the same time, no one with a sell-shop anywhere near the giran gk or in one of the stairwells has any right to complain. Every single person on this forum has been unable at times to even TARGET the gatekeeper in Giran because of the congestion.
If your toon was in the general square or elsewhere in Giran then you have every right to be upset.....if you parked within a few 'feet' of the gk or a stair--then you're one of the people the rest of us are complaining about all the time.
The fact is that nearly every quest routes folks at some point through Giran--going from point a to point b often invovles Giran. That's what makes it a popular selling location but the goal shouldn't be to protect sellers rights--it should be to facilitate regular and high volume traffic for all the other players THROUGH Giran.
Personally I think there should be significant grids around the gk and shop entrances and stairwells where NO ONE can set up a buy/sell shop.
stop askign about what the xexploit is no one here wil ltell you or shoudent also as far as i rember it is not banabule becouse it carrys a inherent risk unlike the list of banned mobs you cant train in to town ( casle gaurds)
A thread almost exactly like this one came up a month or two ago, and the solution that time fit what kimmel just said:
I had the same thing happening to me once. someone told me that it has something to do with the seven signs and someone dragging mobs fom a necro to town, so that people who aren't signed up are teleported outside of the necro.
Bear in mind that a GM very rarely checks his facts before replying. They do move players who block staircases/doorways/etc (if petitioned for it), and may have simply seen "why did I get moved" and given that as an answer...without checking to see if you were moved for that reason, to that location, on that day.
Formulaic response, not much help, thanks for playing, now get lost. Classic.
Also, I believe it was stated that GM's will only move to to another part of the same town for obstruction, not out of the safe zone. Given where you ended up, I strongly suspect it was the same as last time (monsters who port you).
If you are not signed up on the winning side of the seven signs and are in the catacombs or necropolis, when the mammon period starts, you are teleported to the top of the water for that cata/necro.
When you arent on the winning side a mob from a cata/necro is near you, the game thinks you are in that cata/necro so it ports you to the top of the water of that necro/cata.
In very simple terms. All the poeople who were teleported were not signed up on the winning 7 signs side and a mob was pulled near them.
Okay, this morning, I woke up and wanted to check out, if my sellshop had sold my stuff during the night. To my surprise, I found myself sitting outside the Martyr's Necropolis in Giran area. There must have been atleast 100 sell/buy shops there, me included.
Being like wth happened there, I made a pertition to the GM to figure out if this was a bug or something like that. I got the following reply:
IMO it figures. What I don't understand is that when I went to bed, my shop was no where near another players shop. So, either some players added some shops nearby my own, or else the room between the shops has to be so broad that my old man can fit in them. Also, to me it would be more "safe" for the players, if NC could teleport those "beinjg-too-close" shops elsewhere, like somewhere else in town or maybe even to the race track.
Wow! Just WoW!, That response from the GM is just . . . wow. It is a known bug. Ppl running from mobs teleport out and a mob somehow - donno how, follows them. I've seen mobs outside of the cat/com 2 or 3 times and each time the player that was followed out of the cat/necro was trying not to die and trying to kill the mobs.
Rumor has it, that on nights with a full moon, that some mobs that have learned how to let themselves out will actually follow a player all the way to town.
When that occurs, rumor has it, that the players that are not signed up for either dusk or dawn are then treated as if they were inside of the necro/cat and are ported to the outside of the necro/cat when the mob that is loose is within some certain distance of the player that is not signed up.
Donno how to do it, don't wanna know how it is done; and I actually thought that this was addressed and repaired several months ago. It has nothing to do with 3rd party programs as far as I know. My afk shop on Sieghardt was ported out of town with many others several months ago.
This is all rumor and speculaition, if you have any ideas please email support. Please, do not /GM petition it, I cannot believe the response that the OP received.
I prefer "For those who don't frequent cheater sites and aren't knowledgable about cheating and exploits..." but that's just me.
It isnt hard to put 1 and 1 together. Someone made a vidio of running a mob through town. Someone made a post about being teleported. Knowing how the game works, not signed up you get teleported out, it shouldnt be hard to figure out how stuff happend. They said in this thread, they pulled a mob from a necropolis. They also said they were teleported outside the necropolis.
Could of figured it out from those posts from this site. So is this site now a cheating and exploiting site?
SOMETIMES toons get moved by GM's if you petition that they are blocking things. Other times you get the response my clanny got the other day...something along the lines of if they are not using a 3rd party program they can't do anything about it.