A little dwarf in sub-class went red at the Dion siege. Silly dwarf dropped a SOM when dropped by the defenders and blamed it on lag.
All I can say is YOU DISERVE IT. Hope you never get it back!!
Maybe if you were nice for a change would have got it back.
I asked if it would be returned, answer was no, oh well, I got another one... Oh Noes!
~~Later, eX.
It kinna sounded to me you were crying for it in the battlefield. But I guess you later realized that your "friends" <--- that don't speak much english~~~ can get you a new one, the same way you got your sub-class.
If you don't mind dropping another one please do so in the next siege. :) LDS/LS/RR FTW
I asked if it would be returned, answer was no, oh well, I got another one... Oh Noes!
~~Later, eX.
It kinna sounded to me you were crying for it in the battlefield. But I guess you later realized that your "friends" <--- that don't speak much english~~~ can get you a new one, the same way you got your sub-class.
If you don't mind dropping another one please do so in the next siege. :) LDS/LS/RR FTW
Excuse me, I know for a fact LDS doesn't do anything for anyone besides themselves anymore so you can leave them out of it.
Noone but the following helped me get my subclass:
LaCosaNostra Alliance.
& The guys who helped me with ToI raids (Arie, g4briel, etc...)
Noone but the following helped me replace the SoM:
Myself.
Thanks, but get some knowledge on who I am before you assume farmers do so much to help me, what did I get from tagging my char ROLLSROYCE (not LS [LightSword] like some muppets seem to think) - Abolutly nothing.
So keep thinking wht you feel the need to believe, I know how I got my XP - the all nighters I pulled in Zentan's grps... I also know how I replaced my gear, you donot know anything just speculate... assumption leads to ignorance~ but where ignorance is bliss, you find the idiotic people, yourselves.
Noone but the following helped me get my subclass:
LaCosaNostra Alliance.
& The guys who helped me with ToI raids (Arie, g4briel, etc...)
Noone but the following helped me replace the SoM:
Myself.
Thanks, but get some knowledge on who I am before you assume farmers do so much to help me, what did I get from tagging my char ROLLSROYCE (not LS [LightSword] like some muppets seem to think) - Abolutly nothing.
So keep thinking wht you feel the need to believe, I know how I got my XP - the all nighters I pulled in Zentan's grps... I also know how I replaced my gear, you donot know anything just speculate... assumption leads to ignorance~ but where ignorance is bliss, you find the idiotic people, yourselves.
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LOL, yeah I can see.
I think you need go back to elementary school, Mr. All nighter :eek:
Edit: Oh yeah LDS, part of LCN alliance. They have good parties going. Shall we call you Mr. AFK too? but then again I don't know that. :D
so standing near farmers is against the rules? doesnt prove he is in party much less he isnt affed lie the rest... nice picture tho i suppose? Im sure you can do better.
Nah he never cried for it.
I was the one getting mad because to me get something that is not yours is lame and if the person you get the item from did something bad to you in the past well it doesn't matter you have to do the same or you are just as low.
If someone goes red on me and drops something, sorry but i would give back.
One thing is pvp/pk and fun, another one is going crazy crafting weapons and armors.
Now, LCN has no problems replacing his weap, good for him, i would have cried to be honest; might be that i'm poor so i see things differently :D
If you wanna go ahead and flame, i don't really care, but you should agree with me that getting a sword of miracles*acumen from a "bad" person doesn't make you any better. To me you're just as bad.
You do realize the LCN alliance has been dead for over a month now?
I have not seen them for awhile so I figure that but then while around goddard I run into LDS still tagged with the LCN alliance logo doing things they are not supossed to be doing in the Orc outpost :o
You may have never gotten any benefits from being tagged with LS/RR (who cares they are all the same). Unfortunatly no one cares whether you did or not.
Raid farmers are bad for the server. You joined them. People are going to hold that against you, since it was one of the dumbest things I have seen someone do in this game.
You are not legit for this reason alone.
If a farmer drops something from a train, I keep it. I accept it as a donation to my clan, for all of the bull that farmers put us through.
sigh it would be easy to prove, just sent a party invite Xd, if it would say already in party, it doesnt sound to good for ya :P, but if it doesnt the people who see botters everywhere will get pwned soooo bad :)
he could be in a party with anyone.. Im normally always in party with my buffer who normally isnt anywhere near me. but it stops rnadom incites from archers i dunno >_<
When a convicted ****** is caught standing over a woman with his pants down and her screaming for help we should clearly presume he is innocent and move on.
you bashin ppl for not having some or all of there facts straight... and assumptions dont equal facts. Its a what if situation that you made up, and in your made up situation you would have to assume.
and as for beating an inocent man you sir would now be the one who is innocent untill proven guilt... Or can we assume your guilty and throw you in jail?
Yes, you can assume Im guilty and throw me in jail /sarcasm off
WTH planet do you live on? You might want to go back and re read this thread, we seem to have lost you somewhere. If not, then you may want to learn how to express yourself, you are not making any sense.
When a convicted ****** is caught standing over a woman with his pants down and her screaming for help we should clearly presume he is innocent and move on.
I know you're not a lawyer Kut, but there's a huge difference between evidence and the presumption of innocence. What you suggest, if properly handled by the police, would be evidence used for the conviction of the individual. Yet, just because the police catch someone "red handed" does not mean that the presumption of innocence does not apply. It's a legal term to define the blank slate of the juror's mind when entering the court room for the first time. Even in cases such as you suggest above the jury will be fully instructed on what the presumption of innocence means, and the burden of proof required by the law will be no less stringent. So it is incorrect to say that in such an example the presumption of innocence doesn't apply, it does, fully, and it's not the police that hand down the conviction regardless of their own opinions as to the persons innocence.
As far as LCN goes, I call LCN a friend even if I don't personally approve of LS/RR and other raid boss farmers, botters, etc... collective behaviour. You might have to like everything about a person to be their friend, but I can look beyond that.
We use what is at hand to make decisions on people. My point was, if the person is found in that situation, they would be arrested and tried. A lot like finding someone who has been known to be stoop as low as joining a farmer clan hanging out afk by a farmer group that is exping. Now since the court of public opinion is the only one we have here, I think the OP and my opinions are warranted.
I dont need to like everything about someone to be their friend. Could you please quote where I said that so I can remember to watch myself better next time.
There are some things I choose to not look past. One of them is joining a raid boss farmer clan that makes this game that we all play for enjoyment, less enjoyable for the rest of the population on the server.
I guess we just have different standards we hold our "friends" to.
When a convicted ****** is caught standing over a woman with his pants down and her screaming for help we should clearly presume he is innocent and move on.
Kut...
Looking at the Judcial system in the United States, hell around the world for that matter, when someone is accused of something, don't tell me that they are 'innocent until proven guilty'... Human nature dictates in these sittuations, and pretty much essentially everyone is guilty until proven otherwise...
You took what i said a bit too far, but look in the news, everywhere, tell me the way media is set-up in this country and the world, that people are always given inncoent until proven otherwise.
No [censored] she was ***** if you say that, but as of right now... that screenshot pretty much can go either way. Either way involves assuming, but by human nature we assume that hes guilty, cause of his track record, but theoretically hes supposed to be innocent until proven otherwise, make sense?
I don't know if eX was being powerlvled or not there, makes a lot of sense to assume he was, not going to deny that, but i have known eX for a long time as well, and he dosen't strike me as someone who would, dosen't mean im right, and tbh i don't much care what he does. Its his life, his character, his account, he can do whatever he wants with it, i was only trying to point out how human nature tends to make us assume that someone is always guilty, even if they are 100% innocent. Its the way things are, and the way media twists things, i was only trying to state something, not argue in anyones defense.
am i the only one without a reason to hate lcn?
someone can pm me a reason if they like i love to hate ppl ^^
I don't have any real beef with LCN, the reason he's hated is because he raids with LightSword/MagicSword. I envy that he's having so much fun, and has that kind of resources available to replace it...
that screenshot pretty much can go either way. Either way involves assuming, but by human nature we assume that hes guilty, cause of his track record, but theoretically hes supposed to be innocent until proven otherwise, make sense?
No it doesnt make sense.
This is the court of public opinion not a court of law. NCSoft has to assume he is innocent until they can prove otherwise, we do not.
am i the only one without a reason to hate lcn?
someone can pm me a reason if they like i love to hate ppl ^^
I don't have any real beef with LCN, the reason he's hated is because he raids with LightSword/MagicSword. I envy that he's having so much fun, and has that kind of resources available to replace it...
/agree Beer. I don't even own a +3 SoM, and I'm not on subclass yet, so there's lots of reasons to be envious of LCN. Besides most of the Dwarves, real dwarves, played by real players, on this server are my friends, regardless of their individual affiliations. We Dwarves have to stick together, because no one else will give us any respect in either the PVE or PVP world. I realized pretty quickly at the last Gludio siege that Dwarves don't have any pvp skills.
Anyways, I'm greatful for my dwarf friends, LCN, Tarasa, Tickle, Beer, Bigs and others who main dwarves. Luv you all. But especially my Plunder *giggles*
I don't have any real beef with LCN, the reason he's hated is because he raids with LightSword/MagicSword. I envy that he's having so much fun, and has that kind of resources available to replace it...
I personally don't care about he being with LS/RR, etc, etc.
He is just a spoiled guy that if he does not get his way he will make sure to show his love.
As an example, one time he dropped a healer because the healer had to leave the party and he was not going to exp because of that.
Spoiled little brat says he does not care about the SOM and now he says he is pvping for it. Just go back to school so that ppl can really beat on you. Oh wait, you don't do that, it is safer to stay behind the screen all day :D
I don't have any real beef with LCN, the reason he's hated is because he raids with LightSword/MagicSword. I envy that he's having so much fun, and has that kind of resources available to replace it...
I personally don't care about he being with LS/RR, etc, etc.
He is just a spoiled guy that if he does not get his way he will make sure to show his love.
As an example, one time he dropped a healer because the healer had to leave the party and he was not going to exp because of that.
Spoiled little brat says he does not care about the SOM and now he says he is pvping for it. Just go back to school so that ppl can really beat on you. Oh wait, you don't do that, it is safer to stay behind the screen all day :D
I don't care about teh SoM, but if people attack my clan, I kill them, simple.
The reason I dropped the healer was because they left group while we had a room full of aggro and the tank almost died, ******ed healer=.=!
People never did beat on me in school... Also anyone from my old clan can tell you I know how to look after myself in a fight... ;)
I don't have any real beef with LCN, the reason he's hated is because he raids with LightSword/MagicSword. I envy that he's having so much fun, and has that kind of resources available to replace it...
I personally don't care about he being with LS/RR, etc, etc.
He is just a spoiled guy that if he does not get his way he will make sure to show his love.
As an example, one time he dropped a healer because the healer had to leave the party and he was not going to exp because of that.
Spoiled little brat says he does not care about the SOM and now he says he is pvping for it. Just go back to school so that ppl can really beat on you. Oh wait, you don't do that, it is safer to stay behind the screen all day :D
I don't care about teh SoM, but if people attack my clan, I kill them, simple.
The reason I dropped the healer was because they left group while we had a room full of aggro and the tank almost died, ******ed healer=.=!
People never did beat on me in school... Also anyone from my old clan can tell you I know how to look after myself in a fight... ;)
well the only think i want to say is that yes LCN ally is dead and i kinda dont find that funny droping some stupid wp on the field but as you all know you can drop almost everythink that you have ion you char but that is only like 1% change but i will say this only once you get a [censored] life and agrue about somethink ells then somethink much stupid post like that!
are my friends, regardless of their individual affiliations. We Dwarves have to stick together, because no one else will give us any respect in either the PVE or PVP world. I realized pretty quickly at the last Gludio siege that Dwarves don't have any pvp skills.
Quick suggestion: work hard until 75 and get a subclass +++
So you can have the fun you're looking for.
Maybe dwarfs are not good at pvp but theyr'e useful in sieges ----> siege golems ok?
:mad:
Then, as far as respect, thats' up to you as person, not as a class -.-
My main is hierophant, my subclass shillien elder, still i'm having a lot of fun.
Quit complaining and get friends and a good clan that will get you in parties and let you have fun.
I personally don't care about he being with LS/RR, etc, etc.
He is just a spoiled guy that if he does not get his way he will make sure to show his love.
As an example, one time he dropped a healer because the healer had to leave the party and he was not going to exp because of that.
Spoiled little brat says he does not care about the SOM and now he says he is pvping for it. Just go back to school so that ppl can really beat on you. Oh wait, you don't do that, it is safer to stay behind the screen all day :D
You're worse than a [censored] moron.
Learn to know people before daring to say anything about them.
And leave real people out of here, it's a game.
I got to know Graza and he's a very nice person, always trying to help ally members way more than necessary. I think everyone from ex Lcn ally can confirm.
I smell a lot of envy in your words.
And well, considering your diccionary, you should consider going back to school you too.
I am italian and english isn't my first language as well, but i know how to spell a basic word such as dictionary.
By the way, and last time i repeat it, Lcn isn't pvping for the sword, it was mugi and i getting mad for Desalv0r attitude and starting to pk Requiem members.
Lcn of course got into the fight because clannies are involved.
Now we are at war and happy (at least we are... ;))
are my friends, regardless of their individual affiliations. We Dwarves have to stick together, because no one else will give us any respect in either the PVE or PVP world. I realized pretty quickly at the last Gludio siege that Dwarves don't have any pvp skills.
Quick suggestion: work hard until 75 and get a subclass +++
So you can have the fun you're looking for.
Maybe dwarfs are not good at pvp but theyr'e useful in sieges ----> siege golems ok?
:mad:
Then, as far as respect, thats' up to you as person, not as a class -.-
My main is hierophant, my subclass shillien elder, still i'm having a lot of fun.
Quit complaining and get friends and a good clan that will get you in parties and let you have fun.
:cool:
Hey hey now!
RunningFox is cool, currently studying for a law degree, if I remember qcorrectly, doesn't have a lot of time to play.
You'll get 75 one day Fox :) When you do, hit me up for help with quests ^^.
By the way, and last time i repeat it, Lcn isn't pvping for the sword, it was mugi and i getting mad for Desalv0r attitude and starting to pk Requiem members.
Lcn of course got into the fight because clannies are involved.
Now we are at war and happy (at least we are... ;))
Correct ^^
No need to PvP for something I replace so easy, ON MY OWN.
I just don't like people complaining about their class :(
No worries, wasn't really complaining, just making a statement about the lack of love for Warsmiths... We all love each other, but hey can't convince everyone... Yup WS is good for siege golems and hog cannons, and most clans need at least one good WS to craft stuff for them, but as far as pvp skills, WS's need help. No biggie, I love being me, and love being a dwarf.
I just don't like people complaining about their class :(
No worries, wasn't really complaining, just making a statement about the lack of love for Warsmiths... We all love each other, but hey can't convince everyone... Yup WS is good for siege golems and hog cannons, and most clans need at least one good WS to craft stuff for them, but as far as pvp skills, WS's need help. No biggie, I love being me, and love being a dwarf.
well not sure if some of you know who I am I never rally like to talk on these things cause anything you say could be turned around and be used against you.
But anywho I am boooya part of the federation clan. now please after reading this go back through and re-read this thread lol please it is very funny.
The subject goes from talking about the SOM drop to hating LCN or loving him (people here have different takes on him). to talking about his connections to ls/rr. Then somewhere between pages 4-6 I do believe he is not even mentioned then reappears.
I am not taking any sides on this matter becuase frankly it does not concern me and hence i have no idea why I am posting a reply but I say we stop this thread its gotten totally off subject and frankly how long can we talk about this sword. It dropped what 3 weeks ago or abouts??
Yeah and you guys c'mon lets not bring law terms into this forums I got a headache from reading it but maybe thats becuase I never understood those law terms. Anyway yeah LCN I believe the fate of the servers rests on your shoulders lol j/k of course but a lot of people hold you up and others would like to see you fall.
yeah i just looked at what was first posted....did you really blame going red on lag? If you are I was thier and even if you were lagged you still meant to do what you did. you were way off the seige field I was thier and seen it. I am not saying you shuld or shouldn't have went red its not my place to say what you should or shouldn't do :p . But don't blame it on lag.
going red is nothing new jumping in and outta siege field (you shoot/nuke someone who's coming outta siege field and flashing purple, your nuke/arrow hit and you're red), fact was he went red and lost som, who's really to argue if he did intentionally or not? get over it already, touph ****.
Ex was subbed before he hung out with MS. He's reason for joining idk, but he's not in it anymore. People have their reason for hating him but even though he does things I dont like I times Ex's is still my friend. So you can keep me off his hate list.
Ex was subbed before he hung out with MS. He's reason for joining idk, but he's not in it anymore. People have their reason for hating him but even though he does things I dont like I times Ex's is still my friend. So you can keep me off his hate list.