NOW! There has been a lot of commenting on the overpowerness of nukers, and archers. Now, I'd like to know which rules them all... I've heard Necro, I've heard WC, I've heard Overlord. Nothing else lately though. I was talking to deBoor, and he says OVerlord + WC rock him in Olympiad, and it just do happens that he went up against Tolodoth the second after he said that...lol. IT was a close fight, but Cancel + Sleep > Corrupted Man it seems. I'm going to be rerolling, and I'd like to know WHAT is the class that trumps them all? Thanks for any input.
All I'm gonna say is 2.2k m atk, 1.4k cast speed ( Malaria, CH/SE/BD buffs... resist shock included ), 950 m def with zerk on, and transer pain. ( 12k combined hp, cp, summon hp ), and 700 def.
I don't have any lvl 78 EE or WC friends, so no uber buffs for me =/, just the standard ones. And I'm using A grade, as I can barely afford that much. Even still... no matter how +++ your weapon is, or what buffs/ class you got, if you can't silence me, and unless you are a necro as well, you have no chance 1v1.
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Usefullness to Clan: WC/ OL. The duality of both classes is staggering.
Usefullness to Party (random): Overlord. You can always get outside buffs, and let the OL use their offensive skills.
Pvp outside of olympiad: Necromancer. Hellz yeah.
Siege Usefulness: Seiging is care bear, so I wouldn't know.
Dual usefulness: WC/ OL.
FUN: Warlock, actually.
Siege is definately OL. Heal your entire ally for 1k cp...over and over and over. Picture 3 OL's and a bishop spaming heals around 20 nukers who no longer fear anything....
All I'm gonna say is 2.2k m atk, 1.4k cast speed ( Malaria, CH/SE/BD buffs... resist shock included ), 950 m def with zerk on, and transer pain. ( 12k combined hp, cp, summon hp ), and 700 def.
I don't have any lvl 78 EE or WC friends, so no uber buffs for me =/, just the standard ones. And I'm using A grade, as I can barely afford that much. Even still... no matter how +++ your weapon is, or what buffs/ class you got, if you can't silence me, and unless you are a necro as well, you have no chance 1v1.
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Usefullness to Clan: WC/ OL. The duality of both classes is staggering.
Usefullness to Party (random): Overlord. You can always get outside buffs, and let the OL use their offensive skills.
Pvp outside of olympiad: Necromancer. Hellz yeah.
Siege Usefulness: Seiging is care bear, so I wouldn't know.
Dual usefulness: WC/ OL.
FUN: Warlock, actually.
Ehhh 1v1 WC vs necro comes pretty close The WC having a slight.. adv .. now group pvp outside olypiad.. the WC will be able to take out 2 people max before he runs out of mp
Yeah...I agree. But I want to add categories for those three classes earlier mentioned...
Usefullness to Clan:
Usefullness to Party (random):
Pvp outside of olympiad:
Siege Usefulness:
Dual usefulness:
FUN:
Well i have 66sorcer and .. out side or in side well 1v1 i could care less just cancle slow game over vs a wc . Well necros this is the problem you will be "cancle the nuker then go after there pet" Surrnder the pet nuke omg necro woke up..!!!mental agies.. think would be grand but it aint.. some how it can be lvl1 or lvl10 it can go right through it like it was not even there still lands. but oh well . mostly still can beat him if ever thing run's smoothly! Great 1v1 . Great group . Great Mass. One key thing use 1handed weapons.archer will eat you alive!!! But... i <3 my bomt ^^
Well also have 73 gladi necros are fun to kill no cancle thank god.. heh Sh fun to kill an easy . Sps sorcer fun to see my self get cancled left to the side (group pvp) or rooted. Wc are a mother to kill it stuns lands on them (even with a good stun macro ther con = no stun for you!)Ol same thing but even harder to kill! To sum this up gladi only great in 1v1 group pvp fun to play if you dont get cancle rooted or some thing . just go stun healers and go after other target or lay down some ubber damg to some mage and waste all your mp on one target then die shorty after. Mass pvp def the flag =good rule but still sucks you need a bow but you be the last target on any one list they will just try to root you or some thing alone thoes lines.. well gladi bad mass pvp ..in some ways good in others.
Also i have DWARFYS .. Enought said. (Grads adena and chucks at mages !!)
Hope in some way this helps you get pick the trump class sorcer cancle didn't get nerfed but better well good luck!!
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Usefullness to Party (random): Overlord. You can always get outside buffs, and let the OL use their offensive skills.
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huh. Well OL lfg, can bring my lowbie SE on second account...
for the topic though.
I love my OL, play style suits me, although I have not pvp'ed with him much yet (just started few months ago, focusing on grinding). It however is a very nice class, and I have taken out SPS that was a grade above me. Mass pvp I imagine I will play more of a healer style, hanging at the back throwing out alliance CP heals..but again yet to really experience that.
GL with the choice, I know I have rerolled too many **** times.
Shillien Elder:
Usefullness to Clan: Healers/Buffers are always wanted, but now every kid and his dog boxes me
Usefullness to Party (random): same as above
Pvp outside of olympiad: what is "PvP"? Can I eat it? Does it hurt?
Siege Usefulness: sitting on my ***, regening mana after giving buffs. Root random enemy bypasser from time to time.
Dual usefulness: is it like 1v1 (duel) or party of 2? (duo). For pvp: see "Pvp outside of olympiad:" section. For duo, yes, that works pretty well, specially with mage.
FUN: errr, I still play this class, so I am not bored to death.
I heard distant rumour that I should be pwning mages in C5.
This is where NC screwed up, yet again. Their "PVP balancing" in C5 is meant for the Olympiad, not group/siege/field/dungeon PVP, which sucks.
Simply put, Korea plays this game differently and we have to take what they give us.
Let me point out this, possible that C5 will be my last chronicle. Let Korea play their own game than.
After reading about C5 I don't think I'll even wait the long 4-5 months for C5 to come out. We've given them 4 chronicles to fix problems and they've failed miserably.
I heard distant rumour that I should be pwning mages in C5.
*chuckle*
heh...
hahaha....
bwahahahahaha...
Excuse me, sorry about that, just hard to hold it in. Yes, you'll be draining a couple hundred of their MP before you die, as long as you don't try healing your party instead, and that counts as "pwn" in the minds if whichever yahoo they put in charge of RPS.
The good news, though, is that you'll be able to take summoners out of the fight 90% of the time before the first blow is even struck. Because, you know, summoners are totally overpowered and needed something that strong to balance them. That's why everyone's been complaining about summoners the last few chronicles.
Well i have 66sorcer and .. out side or in side well 1v1 i could care less just cancle slow game over vs a wc .
Then WC just buffs himcelf MDef and pops a greater acumen pot (to save time) and pricides to drain you since by the time you are already DOTed most likely. (Steal essence: range 900, power 96 at lvl 66, gives 80% of damage back as HP).
Every WC knows that to beat a mage you need to act like mage.
It's not at all that easy without silence+slow, which your's sork doesnt have.
Ok, nice replies :) The only problem is C5. Seems as though Necros are getting beat down, and mages are losing in general w/ this update. What is the best class to choose? I've heard BH, but I have no clue why. Any comments?
Ok, nice replies :) The only problem is C5. Seems as though Necros are getting beat down, and mages are losing in general w/ this update. What is the best class to choose? I've heard BH, but I have no clue why. Any comments?
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I haven't heard any of this talk. All I've been hearing was about the other classes getting boosted, while mages got nothing but higher chances to be debuffed.
Well, the big question on hand is: What Class should I reroll to, and not be beaten down by the nerf stick, while maintaining pwnage status in ALL pvp areas (olympiad included)?
Well, the big question on hand is: What Class should I reroll to, and not be beaten down by the nerf stick, while maintaining pwnage status in ALL pvp areas (olympiad included)?
reroll nuker/necro especially. Even with TP nerf (if it is true) they still have a servator(and TP), good nukes, more good debuffs now..etc. I can't see a downside to them except everyone plays them (which is enough for me).
truth is, no1 knows what class will own untill the PTS for NA comes up.
some koreans report changes in C5 that are not in the patchnotes (like the TP nerf, and darkmagic nerf) and no1 knows if they are telling the truth. wwe will have to see for ourselves.
the way it looks now, for NA style PvP (outside arena, ganks, sieges) i think archers will own.
no apearent nerf for archers, and their biggest weakness, Mdef, gets beefed up by clanskill resistances.
...Looks like our fight got taken off Zephro^^. Gg, and sorry, I guess. Please don't flame though. I honestly don't know much and I leveled my own account.
I think I might try my hand at a Necromancer. Can any of you necros tell me the playing style in the 60+ area? Is it a lot of grinding or are there groups involved? Stuff like that. Thanks! :D
It comes down to playing your class. Learn the strenghts and weaknesses. Its not all about pwning (hate that....lol). Its about having a good time playing a charcter that fits your style. If you reroll everytime you get waxed you will never get to know how to play the charcter you have. I play an overlord because I like the buffs/off. spells and I still get to stand toe to toe and beat the heck out of something. Thats me.....find out what works for you.
much to many peeps surprise an Elemental Master is wrecking all comers in the Bartz Olympiad.
I might be able to take if I can land curse gloom then disease and the ***** pony doesn't crit to often.
but this fact aside the Grand Olympiad is both a scam and a silly game of points manipulation as only the classes that actually have a chance of winning ever fight outside of alliance.