I play a Warsmith as a main and have never played an archer. I see so many people saying archers are over powered. When it comes to warsmith vs archer I thinks its a fair fight. So the way I see it warsmith vs archer not over powered. Archer vs other classes I have no idea lol.
How can "slow melee fighter" versus "fast range fighter" be a fair fight ?
Is the archer trying to pound you with their bow ? Are you shooting with your axe or throwing your spear at him ? Is your summon so ****, that it can distract the archer from you sneaking up behind him to stun him ?
Please explain, how that makes a fair fight as from all that I know, the archer needs to be AFK for a WS to win a duel.
of cours WS can win!
just need to carry tons of QHP/GHP/CP pots, WW pots
and in the end the archer will run out of mana, WW pots then WS catches up and wins!
of cours WS can win!
just need to carry tons of QHP/GHP/CP pots, WW pots
and in the end the archer will run out of mana, WW pots then WS catches up and wins!
power to the brave dwarves!
after spending about 5 mil on potions the archer gets bored and runs away
you cant beat an archer
either they kill you or they run away
In a fight like the olympiad, a WS can destroy most classes... at least at first. Ha ha. We had one own just about everyone the first few weeks it came out.
Im mainly talking about arena fighting but not limited to arenas. Prophet buffed with golem out both with SS and blessed beast shots. Thats almost 18k combined HP/CP golem HP. My golem has 1877 patk I have about 900 patk With a golem thier cannon can crit and archers dont have that great of a Mdef. I was fighting a archer hero in the arena and coming very close to killing him each fight and managed to kill him once. I even killed a couple nukers my lvl but they had no idea how to play thier class for some reason.
Im mainly talking about arena fighting but not limited to arenas. Prophet buffed with golem out both with SS and blessed beast shots. Thats almost 18k combined HP/CP golem HP. My golem has 1877 patk I have about 900 patk With a golem thier cannon can crit and archers dont have that great of a Mdef.
golem special attack is physical not magical
hate when someone can make it to lvl 72 and not realize that
any archer close to your lvl will kill the golem in 6 hits max
if they are dumb enough to let you get close odds are hammer crush wont land and if it does you wont do enough damage for him to care
once the golem is dead he can kite you forever, you can resummon if you want and possibly win but more likely he will just rekill the golem and go on a kiteing spree again
Riposte stance definitely tips the favour to the dwarf. You won't dare use any kind of slow or stun, since the dwarf have time to toggle riposte on when you start executing your skills, chance of reflecting skills seems pretty decent. With shield buffs it's a very interesting and long fight.
With that said, archers only become uber with full buffs, then just about nothing can beat them.
Riposte stance definitely tips the favour to the dwarf. You won't dare use any kind of slow or stun, since the dwarf have time to toggle riposte on when you start executing your skills, chance of reflecting skills seems pretty decent. With shield buffs it's a very interesting and long fight.
i tested ripstance on a fellow dwarf in the arena
we had 4 guys trying to stun him for about aminuet before he reflected one (i actually had to recharge him while he done it)
he also said he never once reflected a sleep anchor or slow
one of the many reasons ill never play the dwarf again once i get my subclass
Arena fights are just for fun, but any archer with an idea how to play his class will own an WS, BH like they have cakes with the breakfast.
In real pvp it's more like this:
The Golem has so low P.def that it will be killed very easy and the archer will still have enough HP (CP+GHP pots ftw) to kite any dwarf. Doesn't matter if the dwarf has a back full of CP/HP until you can't get close enough to stun him and beg that he doesn't wear an Majestic Light Armor :)
Are you sure it isnt magical because it sure in hell crits like it is. Athough I never use it on mobs. I also have -10 con atm and still beat archers my level. I can see there being a problem in open field maybe but in the arena I almost always beat archers.
it is physical. And in arena, they cant kite you, this is why you can win. The sad part is, even when they cant kite you, they can still kill you. Now add in the kite, and you are dominated.
slow the dwarf, then just take aim at the golem. Golem is down very fast, very low Pdef. Then the archer will 190 speed takes aim at the dwarf with 120 speed.
I'm wondering what the mages were doing during this 20 min fight. I'd expect, at least on my server, one to step in and pretty much magic crt them both before its over anyways.
I thought ripostle was just for PHYSICAL debuffs like armor crush, cripple, etc. Magical shield, or something like that, is for reflecting magic debuffs and I think its TKs and Paladins (maybe it was SK) that get that skill.
This the lvl 77 dwarfy Ws skill!! Uses weapon to reflect incoming attacks. It reflects the damage received and has a chance to reflect buff/de-buff skill attacks. The damage received through the skill use and remote attack are excluded. Moving speed, Atk. Spd. and accuracy are decreased. MP will be continuously consumed while in effect.
Have you ever seen an ws with a bow? Its scary and for the slow's ws only has deal with a sr (He has no slow PR slow is not all that great)The sr slow is like 50/50 when it comes to my gladi and right about the same for my ws Both have +4wit -4int
When it comes to mages ! sps slow= meh only effect 2 , Sorcer/necro/Sh slow=95%and effect 3(witch you know what you have to do when this lands ) land rate and rippo stances is like 30% when it comes down 2 it and dont forget even with s grade m defs they still will hit a dwarf for 2k with emp/same for ever one but sr/pw/all tanks
when it comes to open ground pvp when using a bow with no rang masterys it seem like you still can get a shot in when they stop and shoot or even with the bow skill does like 400damg witchs is till some thing to bad dwarfys dont have and they cant through ss bombs at the sr..or mage or archer ..well there my 2 cents
I thought ripostle was just for PHYSICAL debuffs like armor crush, cripple, etc. Magical shield, or something like that, is for reflecting magic debuffs and I think its TKs and Paladins (maybe it was SK) that get that skill.
Just TK, magic mirror, reflects effects. My bet is it only reflects spells with effects only. Vortex will go right through as will things like icebolt. That seems like an NCsoft kind of mistake.