Today i killed my first raid boss... it was fun sure, but only droped a single enchant scroll. I was disapointed, untill i saw the 40% EXP i gained O_O.... I had NO IDEA raid bosses gave large amounts of group exp.... AM i correct in saying FORGET grinding, and go raid boss hunting as often as possible?
Im a lvl 23 Rogue (HE in training) i have a lvl 23 Cleric and a lvl 23 HUman Wizard with me at all times (good friends.) That would be the basis of a good 9 man group right?
How long are the respawn times for the raid bosses, and is it this good exp wise all the time with every boss?
Raid bosses at that level are great exp, I did a ton of them 20-30.
The thing is, it takes time to form a good group that CAN KILL the boss. That's important. I can't tell you how many times it took 40 mins to form a group, another 30 to find a boss that is up, only to spend 20 mins and then get owned by the boss. It happens, and doing a solid grind will get you just as much if not more exp for the time and effort put into the bosses.
That being said, there's just something about the big boost in exp all at once, the possible loot, and the team work involved that is much more fun than the regular grind.
Yes that is the basis of a good group, it's best to have two healers though esp if one can recharge mp.
Today i killed my first raid boss... it was fun sure, but only droped a single enchant scroll. I was disapointed, untill i saw the 40% EXP i gained O_O.... I had NO IDEA raid bosses gave large amounts of group exp.... AM i correct in saying FORGET grinding, and go raid boss hunting as often as possible?
Im a lvl 23 Rogue (HE in training) i have a lvl 23 Cleric and a lvl 23 HUman Wizard with me at all times (good friends.) That would be the basis of a good 9 man group right?
How long are the respawn times for the raid bosses, and is it this good exp wise all the time with every boss?
Welcome to the raiding club! Your group is already a solid core of a good 9 man group, a good raiding group has another healer , 2 tanks with hate/aggression skill and the rest made up with whatever DDs you can find.
After raiding a number of times at ur usual timeslot and shouting out in town, you will make a lot of friends and it will make it much easier to form raid groups. As your knowledge of raid boss scouting and locations grow, so too will ur efficiency in travelling between raids.
As for replacing regular grinding, it depends on drop distribution. Even if every boss drops something, what they drop will often not make for the shots u lost during the raid and the cost of teleporting to locations. If the group doesn't divide the drops it makes the financial situation even worse.
For an archer you can burn through 1000's of shots and get nothing for a raid, for mages it isn't so bad, I was in 10 raids and used less then 2000 BSPS D, I still made a loss though. Melee guys use a tonne of shots as well.
Also there are a lot of gungho ppl out there who don't cooperate and get your raid group killed. Be careful who you choose.
Respawn times are a few hours, and yes you will get big XP every time as long as the level of your group doesn't vary too much.
Raid bosses at that level are great exp, I did a ton of them 20-30.
The thing is, it takes time to form a good group that CAN KILL the boss. That's important. I can't tell you how many times it took 40 mins to form a group, another 30 to find a boss that is up, only to spend 20 mins and then get owned by the boss. It happens, and doing a solid grind will get you just as much if not more exp for the time and effort put into the bosses.
That being said, there's just something about the big boost in exp all at once, the possible loot, and the team work involved that is much more fun than the regular grind.
Yes that is the basis of a good group, it's best to have two healers though esp if one can recharge mp.
Respawn I'm not sure though.
correct, BUT! what you will NOT get is the loot.
theres 1 boss in every level range (20-30,30-40,40-50 etc) that ALWAYS drops a fixed number of scrolls without fail.
my advice: raid when you can. make youre you have power to take him down, but be warned, these bosses arent always available to hunt, and can cost you many adenas to scout them.
best adviceL grind. its just easier and less risky. when you can kill in 2 shots, whip around and kill again in 1, and not loose a single MP, youve done your job and the loot will have to add up in mats and other droppings.
not so much fun or social, but its much more efficient.
The low level bosses are fantastic "real life" raid boss and boss experiance though. Many of them are just as if not more brutal than high level bosses. The frog princess spams a AOE poison as does the Flame Lord. The soul scavenger has an AOE sleep spell, and the one in the EG pit does some kind of bleed I believe. The eyeball around Floran rapes your mp and drains health, it's wild.
I can't think of another high level one that is as bad as some of the low level ones, except maybe that crappy one in GC that has AOE para ><
The low level bosses are fantastic "real life" raid boss and boss experiance though. Many of them are just as if not more brutal than high level bosses.
Oh yeh that reminds me of my very first raid boss. He was that flying demon guy near fellmore harvest grounds ..got AOE poison and AOE root :eek:
After many rezzes and nearly running out of shots it didn't take long for us to realise that he was too tough to handle, so we towed him all the way to Gludin and got the whole town out for a bit of action.
Since so many people of varying levels got involved he didn't drop jack, so everyone got angry and starting PvPing each other. This is how NOT to raid :o
suggest at least 15 people to do the low level RBs, its nice when you can find good people and kill, lets say, 10 Rbs in a row, good thing is noone looses much adena, because you will get enough drops that everyone can get something
You can usually do the raid bosses WITH MINIONS with one group. The single raid bosses are MUCH HARDER than ones with minions.
Can't tell you how many times a group said "oh he has no minions he'll be easy" then the boss proceeded to own our faces off. I think the only exception was that warden in EG, he was without minions and didn't appear to do anything very devestating.
You can usually do the raid bosses WITH MINIONS with one group. The single raid bosses are MUCH HARDER than ones with minions.
Can't tell you how many times a group said "oh he has no minions he'll be easy" then the boss proceeded to own our faces off. I think the only exception was that warden in EG, he was without minions and didn't appear to do anything very devestating.
except for the fact that you have to take him out with human wizards or elven wizards cos he reisits dark attack :p
and actually if you take a look at a certain website(wh) youll see he has more hp than other solo rb of the same level. makes him a wee bit harder to take down.
suggest at least 15 people to do the low level RBs, its nice when you can find good people and kill, lets say, 10 Rbs in a row, good thing is noone looses much adena, because you will get enough drops that everyone can get something
Low level raids 20 - 30 you can do solo or group bosses with one group sometimes not even a full group. Just yesterday did the Giant basilisk in Wastelands with a party of 8 and it was easy. Some however need 2 parties (like Ragarman {sp?}) just know which bosses are easy and if any have aoe spells. Also if you think you will need extra damage raise a wolf this way. They add good damage and level fast this way.
suggest at least 15 people to do the low level RBs, its nice when you can find good people and kill, lets say, 10 Rbs in a row, good thing is noone looses much adena, because you will get enough drops that everyone can get something
Low level raids 20 - 30 you can do solo or group bosses with one group sometimes not even a full group. Just yesterday did the Giant basilisk in Wastelands with a party of 8 and it was easy. Some however need 2 parties (like Ragarman {sp?}) just know which bosses are easy and if any have aoe spells. Also if you think you will need extra damage raise a wolf this way. They add good damage and level fast this way.
actually theres an easier way to do ragraman :)
if you have a full nuker group (1 healer 1 tank), all nukers pull out their summons and unsommon right before he dies. waste of a summon i know, but its free damage and more loot for everyone.
if you have a full nuker group (1 healer 1 tank), all nukers pull out their summons and unsommon right before he dies. waste of a summon i know, but its free damage and more loot for everyone.
The example you gave is still two groups :p and that guy is a beast I hate him and the flame lord in PH.
Having leveled from 20 to 40 strictly on raid bosses, some advice I can give you.
Not all bosses are as easy as their level. Some bosses with minions are easier then some without. To maximize the exp for the team, don't let the highest member of team be more then 4 levels above the boss you are going after nor let the lowest person be below 4 levels of the boss. Doing this will almost always guarantee getting drops from every boss that you kill and the greatest amount of exp for the team as a whole. Any person higher than the 4 levels, the bosses chances of dropping an item decreases a lot. Any person, besides a healer that is below 4 levels of boss are really not contributing to the killing of the boss, leaching is all they are doing. With a healer, they are actually able to heal teammembers which does contribute to killing a boss.
One thing though that I get upset about sometimes. If you are invited to a team to raid a boss. It's everyone on the team responcibility to locate boss(es). Not just 1 person on a 9 person team. If I join a team and only 1 person is looking for a raid boss to kill while others are speard out soloing till a boss is found, I very abruptly leave the team. Do your share. Its a lot faster to find a boss with everyone looking for one. Why should 1 person have to spend all their adena porting, soeing, porting to find a single boss, when if everyone pitched in things would go a lot faster and be less taxing on the one.