Rock Bottom

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Been poor since I started the game,and I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it. I believe I've hit rock bottom,can anyone help me out? :(
>>. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot.
And you did that 6times in a row (bot killing i mean).
Great first Post !

May I beg for a couple million adena please ? Recently there was this Orc, who told me, I needed to show them my Armor and my weapon for them to "enhance" it.

But when I did, they just ran off with my stuff. That is so totally unfair, please help me out and donate some money to me !

Storytelling Kitten

(P.S: Sorry, I got absolutely no heart for beggars and fools. I worked for every single adena and so should everyone)
Greetings,


I worked for every single adena and so should everyone



I stole most of mine off mobs.

Have Fun ! ™

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Been poor since I started the game,and I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it. I believe I've hit rock bottom,can anyone help me out? :(


Yes, the nearest guard can.
As long as you're able to hunt, you can make money, don't use SS, try to do manor or something. Hunt the right mobs, the ones that drop materials that are worth alot, like animal bones on most servers.

Or you could reroll, that will give you some time to make some money as well.
Accidently killed a bot over 5 times huh? Oops
Why do you keep asking if they accidentally killed something 5 times?

They didnt say they dropped their equipped weapon, which is the only thing guaranteed to not drop if you have more then 5 pk's.

Back to the OP, start grinding without SS, repeatable quests, manor, buy low and sell high, join a clan, never come to the official boards asking for a hand out.
Being red has nothing to do with dropping on death if you have less than 5 PKs, so there would be no need to mention it unless he was indeed over 5 PKs.
the 5 PK thing only applies to weapons, i can vouch for that one. I'm at 3 and i still pop like a pinata every time i die when red
Arrribbba!!!!
*spanish music*
Dance! Dance!
One other minor point...

I killed someone I was sure was botting, not accidentally but on purpose. I'm not real sure how you would accidentally kill one, since they usually are not alone and even the healer I killed took a bit of concentrated effort.

If it's not a random player that's doing things they shouldn't, but a farmer, they are very difficult to kill even on purpose!

Been poor since I started the game,and I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it. I believe I've hit rock bottom,can anyone help me out? :(



What everyone is trying to get to is....

Sorry to hear about your setback, you have discovered what happens when you go red on a bot. It isn't worth it is it?

Your best bet to to fall back on the cheapest weapon you can afford and head back to the starter towns and do quests. In time your be back where you came from.
Every time I've died when red has been in PvP, and I've never dropped anything. If you drop to monsters when red, regular drop rules should apply.
I usually love to help out new players, but i cant stand beggers....and liars. You dont "accidently" go red on a bot..5 times.

refer to HIeverybodys sig for information on what you should do next

-Rik

I usually love to help out new players, but i cant stand beggers....and liars. You dont "accidently" go red on a bot..5 times.



Maybe i'm missing something, but where did he say he killed a bot 5 times? I'm not seeing it!
<--- only here to show off sig!
He couldn't have dropped-because-he-was-red if he hadn't been over 5 PKs.
Mmmm...

I reread it, we are assuming he dropped his weapon when it could have been some armor. :confused:
No, nobody is assuming he dropped his weapon.

You drop as if you were white under 5 PKs.

In short, unless he'd already accidentally killed something 5 times, he doesn't need to mention that he was red, because drop rates are unaffected.
Your right, i was assuming he was droppiong his weapon, but i still dont like beggars.

/agree with the Kitty

/love Hi's Sig
So let me get this straight? These days you get 4or5 get out of jail free cards? Then when your lifetime total PKs goes to 6 you start droping things like a teenager storming outta wal-mart?

I ask this because last time I played, you went red you = santa.

So let me get this straight? These days you get 4or5 get out of jail free cards? Then when your lifetime total PKs goes to 6 you start droping things like a teenage storming outta wal-mart?

I ask this because last time I played, you went red you = santa.



that is correct. You get 5 free one basically.

There is also a sineater quest that allows you to remove pk points. It is a pet that when summoned takes 100% of your exp. Once the sin eater lvls u return it to the guy and you get a random # of pks removed. I've never gotten above 5 removed, but I heard of a guy who got like 17 removed.

(this quest is repeatable)
It is however important to note that you can still drop stuff! Just like any other person.

It is however important to note that you can still drop stuff! Just like any other person.



I'm not sure if you can in pvp anymore... and since I got like 3 hours of sleep last nightiam notgoing to look up the info to argue, but... I think you can't drop in pvp. a mob kills u andu can drop though
>> but I heard of a guy who got like 17 removed.
10 is the max (unless recently changed)
I think it was Ash with the last official word on it:

You die in PvP (while white or purple): You will not drop anything

You die in PvE (while white or purple): Chance to drop something, but never your equipped weapon.

You die while red with more than 5 PKs (both!): Higher chance to drop something AND chance to drop your equipped weapon.

Repetitive Kitten

>> but I heard of a guy who got like 17 removed.
10 is the max (unless recently changed)



that written down somewhere? I'm over 17 atm and I really was hopeing for a clean count after 1 sin eater.

Been poor since I started the game,and I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it. I believe I've hit rock bottom,can anyone help me out? :(



Alzer, despite the general tone of these responses, folks are helpful in-game. But, to help you, we need to know a few things; what server you are on, what class you are, what equipment you need to replace.

Help can take forms other than adena. If you need money-making stategies, or good drop/leveling spots, or how to use the manor system for adena, or what quests give good rewards, folks can 'help' with all of that.

At level 33, I would recommend the Acts of Evil Quest, info is here. (http://lineage2.stratics.com/content/library/quests/quest.php?id=15010) You can solo all the mobs, and it gives 98,000 adena. It is a bit long, but has a good storyline.
While you are doing it, seed the mobs as well. That will give you extra loot. If you need to know how to seed, consult the manor guide here. (http://lineage2.stratics.com/content/features/manorsystem/)

You can use the manor system to get crops that give whatever material is most valuable on your server at the moment and make a lot of cash that way. Do this on all mobs that don't drop anything really valuable. (I don't seed Wyrms because they drop Gloves of Knowledge.)


>> but I heard of a guy who got like 17 removed.
10 is the max (unless recently changed)



that written down somewhere? I'm over 17 atm and I really was hopeing for a clean count after 1 sin eater.



im 99% sure that its a max or 10 pks taken off.
For one,I accidently killed it because I was trying to weaken it and stun it with a club so the monster could kill it. And the reason I keep doing it is because the first time I did it,the monster killed the bot,and the thing dropped 826 animal bones which I sold for 1,100 each. I was already broke so I figured maybe I could make some money killing the bot,plus I was just hanging around anyway. Where is the black judge for the sineater quest anyway? Now the way I see it someone atleast tries to do something about bots and in return he gets pked and stolen from,then when he askes for some kind of help,he gets snapped back at. Im on bartz,lvl 33 Warrior(soon to be gladiator) and I lost Brigadine Gaiters and Boots of Power.

I stole most of mine off mobs.




Nice Dark. I stole most of my latest set of gear from bots. WTS 6 rip gauntlets, 4 helmets, 7 shields... well you get the idea.

For one,I accidently killed it because I was trying to weaken it and stun it with a club so the monster could kill it. And the reason I keep doing it is because the first time I did it,the monster killed the bot,and the thing dropped 826 animal bones which I sold for 1,100 each. I was already broke so I figured maybe I could make some money killing the bot,plus I was just hanging around anyway. Where is the black judge for the sineater quest anyway? Now the way I see it someone atleast tries to do something about bots and in return he gets pked and stolen from,then when he askes for some kind of help,he gets snapped back at. Im on bartz,lvl 33 Warrior(soon to be gladiator) and I lost Brigadine Gaiters and Boots of Power.



First, you have to understand that this game is filled with scammers. Second, you are talking to a lot of people who in all likelihood have lost as much if not more than you.

So yes, in many ways we are cynical. I've seen a lot of stories that people tell that don't add up quite right, so I'm very skeptical. Now I've had my share of assistance. I've been blessed by people helping me in many ways. But it was help freely offered by them, not asked for by me.

Losing your weapon is a tragedy, losing those two pieces of equipment you mentioned isn't going to cripple you beyond your ability to regain it.

Second, you are talking to a lot of people who in all likelihood have lost as much if not more than you.



WTB my dignity back?
the 826 ab is worth more than birg gaitors + boots. U came out ahead.

For one,I accidently killed it because I was trying to weaken it and stun it with a club so the monster could kill it. And the reason I keep doing it is because the first time I did it,the monster killed the bot,and the thing dropped 826 animal bones which I sold for 1,100 each. I was already broke so I figured maybe I could make some money killing the bot,plus I was just hanging around anyway. Where is the black judge for the sineater quest anyway? Now the way I see it someone atleast tries to do something about bots and in return he gets pked and stolen from,then when he askes for some kind of help,he gets snapped back at. Im on bartz,lvl 33 Warrior(soon to be gladiator) and I lost Brigadine Gaiters and Boots of Power.



That's fair Alzer.

But as Jute said, there are a lot of scammers in this game (which you may or may not realize) so it really has made people "ask twice or even thrice" before they give money or equipment.

But as Angdil mentioned, "help" can come in a variety of ways.

The Black judge (that I know of) is at the southern entrance to the wastes. he is back a bit around that little caravan with the traders.

I will also tell you that I did an experiment once.

I really don't have any alts (well.. I have finally made my bot killing alt which I have been lvling bit by bit.. and I have my dwarf) but sometimes I will make one, lvl it to around 21 or so then delete it.

I had a dark elf fighter with no weapon but the one he came with. same with the armor.

So, as an experiment, I went to dark elf village and and wanted to see what I could do in order to "get him up to speed" without twinking him whatsover.

I took the fungus quest and was able to get enough money to buy a better dagger. I then started taking out spiders as well.

What I came up with was that it is possible to get back on your feet but you need a lot of patience and some perseverence in order to do it.

Satisfied that it was possible I deleted him. :p

However, I will say that if you are in A grade and lose a helmet or some other piece, that it is a lot harder to recover. One of the reasons that being in a good clan or having a good support system is so important.

Good Luck. (ps... join a clan)

the 826 ab is worth more than birg gaitors + boots. U came out ahead.



Yes, it is worth twice as much. Go to Giran and buy your armor from the NPC shop. You don't need our help.

I'm not real sure how you would accidentally kill one, since they usually are not alone and even the healer I killed took a bit of concentrated effort.

One of my nukers once hit one to see what kind of MDef they ran around with. The apparent answer was "none whatsoever" when I one-shotted the stupid thing without even getting a crit. Wasn't trying to kill one, although I can't say I felt remorse ;)

the thing dropped 826 animal bones which I sold for 1,100 each

Over 900k profit.

I lost Brigadine Gaiters and Boots of Power.

About 350k lost.

Net gain of 550k.

Earlier statement:

I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it.

You, sir, are full of it. I am not saying I know for certain that you are lying about your current bankroll, but I am saying that I am quite certain that your forays with bots have helped to alleviate your problem rather than making it worse.

If you made 550k more than a player who was strictly PvE, but you are still low on cash, then you are simply bad with money.
Im not lying about being broke,I got the bones when I was around lvl 25,and that got me updated gear I had crappy D grade gear and I updated to Brigadine. and It eventually ran out buying SS potions and ETC.

Been poor since I started the game,and I still am,Im lvl 33 and I only have 128k. Ive lost some of my equipment for becomeing chaotic for accidentaly killing a bot. And now I can't afford to replace it. I believe I've hit rock bottom,can anyone help me out? :(



Im not sure why peeps gotta be so cruel but if you are on Kain I can help you out a little if you send me a tell..


I am not saying I know for certain that you are lying about your current bankroll, but I am saying that I am quite certain that your forays with bots have helped to alleviate your problem rather than making it worse.

If you made 550k more than a player who was strictly PvE, but you are still low on cash, then you are simply bad with money.

Im not lying about being broke,I got the bones when I was around lvl 25,and that got me updated gear I had crappy D grade gear and I updated to Brigadine. and It eventually ran out buying SS potions and ETC.

So, in short, I was right. You spend more money than to make, to the extent that you've blown a 550k windfall in under 8 D-grade levels. I am not calling you a liar, merely a wastrel who is attempting to blame his problems on anything but his own habits.

Rather than begging for handouts, why don't you try asking for methods to make money? Fix your own problems? Exchange your bad habits for good ones?

Before anyone attempts to be "nice" by giving him presents, please bear in mind that you're just making his problems worse, not better. You are rewarding unsustainable behavior. You are discouraging him from learning how to play the game well. In the long run, you're not being nice at all, merely encouraging bad habits.

Alzer, if you would like any advice at all on how to make money in L2, you'll have it. If you're just hoping for handouts, and you play Hindemith, kindly leave your character's name and I'm quite sure I can find something for you, but you may be slightly discouraged by the nature of my gift.
Dude I am sorry everybody is being an ******...but sometimes ppl can be mean on these forums. But some can be nice like the person that offered to help ya out if you were on kain server.

Now I will tell you something. Like people said there are lots of scammers in this game. I know YOU could go scam someone by selling NG shots for A grade shots and it would be a lot easier than asking for help on here. Plus you could make about 1 mil in a night because lotsa ppl don't look at what they are buying. But then again, I wouldn't reccomend doing this because u could be scamming an honest player (if there is such a thing anymore) or a friend. So I don't think u are trying to scam someone here.

Now for ur information, I too am on Kain server and wouldn't mind helping you out a bit if you are there too. PM me on the boards if you are with your ingame name and I will get a hold of you...

Also tho, there is satisfaction on regaining lost things on your own. Since it was just a few armor pieces, it won't be too big of a deal. Just fight mobs that don't dish much damage out. If you are on a server that the manor system isn't destroyed (if it is kain, well gl...the manor kinda sucks) you can farm mats too sell. I know varnish or something you could get buckets loads of in a few hours, and make enough for those gaiters. Anyway, gl to you.
Didn't he already say that he was on Bartz in an earlier post?

CBA to look back and find out.

The song lyrics hold true in this case:

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day,
Teach how to fish and he'll eat forever"

Best for him to learn how to make money (or spend less).
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day,
Teach how to fish and he'll eat forever...
Offer to teach a man to fish instead of giving him one,
And you are obviously an ******.
Nobody is being an ******. He lost gear on his own and is trying for the worst possible way to fix it, and that is an outside donation. Someone who can't keep their gear together in D Grade will quit or ebay by B grade at the latest, C more likely.