S grade duel sa's

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seen a set of duels today
the sa said when +4 it would be +15% hp +20% mp and +30% cp
as far as i know only duels recieve sa's like that, am i wrong?
what i have seen that is it only the s-grade duals have all that so everyone will be in duals for s-grade because all those sa's rock compared to the rest
Everyone?
yes all u can still have a bow too lol

yes all u can still have a bow too lol



Hmm, granted, I haven't played with my Nuker in a while...so i forgot how this works..

Has anyone tryed to see how long it would take to loose the bonuses you'd get from these S duals? I'd imagine that as soon as you unequip them and go back to your real weapon, it's good bye to the nifty + %MP/CP/HP.

Or am I wrong?

Has anyone tryed to see how long it would take to loose the bonuses you'd get from these S duals? I'd imagine that as soon as you unequip them and go back to your real weapon, it's good bye to the nifty + %MP/CP/HP.

Or am I wrong?



yeah id assume so
just like haveing a health or mana up weapon
you lose the SA if you switch weapons. Only way not to lose it is to switch to a weapon that has the same SA.
besides glads and tanks +25% hp is usually better than +15% hp +20% CP

so its basically hp up+mana up, not bad

besides glads and tanks +25% hp is usually better than +15% hp +20% CP

so its basically hp up+mana up, not bad


so noone else sees a problem with this?
it seems to me that S grade duels are recieveing fair better sa's than any other weapon
focus on draconic is 14[9+2+3] SA. Saving low a C grade dagger best critical chance boost (saving rsk focus as well).
CP can be erased in a single blow by daggers/archers so the increase is not that hot.
Most people would rather want a focus SA somewhere in S or A Grade. But of course NCSoft made up and didn't make enough swords, so only one SA, and that one sucks. :>
Kinda hard to say. That SA sucks, imo.
The only great advantage of the dual S is the amazing patck it have, +3 or +4'ed. The SA dont help that much... I would prefer focus over it anytime

Kinda hard to say. That SA sucks, imo.
The only great advantage of the dual S is the amazing patck it have, +3 or +4'ed. The SA dont help that much... I would prefer focus over it anytime



yeah fair enough i'd pick focus too
question is why dont the other weapons have sa's like that?
surely that would be the perfect tank sa (if hp was slightly higher)

surely someone would complain if it was a mage weapon with +15% cast speed +5% magic crit rate and +5 evasion
the hero weps do
Because no class that actually wants duals can take proper advantage of that SA. :p
A. To get that "awesome" SA you have to +4 those S grade duals, and risk blowing them up.

B. The SA is only good for certain classes (If you're a BD who pvp's with a bow, forget about it T.T)

C. As soon as you switch weapons you lose the bonus. You could switch to a weapon with the same SA to keep it, but there aren't any other weapons with +Hp +CP and +Mana (except maybe hero weapons?)
Every bd I know whines that this sa sucks and they won't pay to switch to S. They want haste. This is really just a bit more than 25% hp (total) and mp. Most people will tell you that offensive based weapons are far better than defensive. Thus, though it is certainly good, it is by no means overpowered, since a +8% haste (ony sa) dual of same pattack would garner 90%+ of the votes.

Every bd I know whines that this sa sucks and they won't pay to switch to S. They want haste. This is really just a bit more than 25% hp (total) and mp. Most people will tell you that offensive based weapons are far better than defensive. Thus, though it is certainly good, it is by no means overpowered, since a +8% haste (ony sa) dual of same pattack would garner 90%+ of the votes.



Well the SD's I know would kill to get their hands on these duals. NOw our guild is mostly nukers and our sd's where imperial and majestic. They do quite well by simple charging into our enemies and drawing thier fire and allow the nukers to pick off the archers. Also our guild HP uses the +4 duals quite effectivly. So I owuld say its a matter of opnion but I would say the SA rocks