Community feedback please - Buffs

Okay so here is my first stab at this and I'd like some community feedback on it please.

Buffs (http://jute.dreamhosters.com/lineageii/buffs.htm)

Thanks in advance to anyone who gives constructive feedback.

It looks good so far, but are you going to add dances / songs?

I've been considering that. If people think it would be good I'll be happy to do it.

EE's get Resist Aqua? I thought only Spellsingers had that buff.

And Sorceror's have a buff as well, that's a sort of VR. I just don't know the name of it. And SpS' get that freeze one.

I didn't add the Damage caster ones..like Spellsinger, etc. But I can if that would be useful.

Edit: That should be resist shock..not aqua.

EE's get Resist Aqua?

No, they don't. Nice page Jute.

And Sorceror's have a buff as well, that's a sort of VR. I just don't know the name of it.

I hope you're not thinking of Blazing Skin...

its great jute. u hav done well.

i would like to see songs and dances in there, but damage caster buffs really dont count IMO. they are supposed to be self buffs (as defence and attack aura for fighters), nor do i wish to see self buffs in there.

if you included ALL buffs, you would be turning that page into a non-refined unsearchable list of buffs.

but it would still be cool :)

Temporarily increases shield defense rate.

Advanced block increases shield defense power, not rate.

Bless the body is also not for anyone who might be taking damage, but for anyone who might be taking major amounts of burst damage - it's a very situational skills, especially at lower levels.

For the format, I would probably try to group buffs of the same type under the prophet/Shillien Elder name, but that's just me. :p

Holy Weapon is learned by neither bishop nor prophet but by clerics and EEs.

:p Too tired to read the whole list now. Nice idea though.

I didn't include whether they learned the skills at any of the lower level...this is just whether they HAVE the skill.

And the description was actually from the list of skill descriptions here on the site in the library

Edit: Oh and I understand that all buffs are situational, but things like Bless the Body DO give a larger buffer for problems. Also as a Spellhowler in Demon, I like it ;)

Looks good Jute. A couple of notes for you though.

Chant of Flame is the same as Glory of Paagrio. (Increases Mdef)

Orc Shamans are the ones who 'get' a mix of the Paagrio buffs and the Chants. Instead of saying Overlords/Warcryers get level X of their opposites buffs, simply say instead that 'Orc Shamans' get Level X instead. Just to make it clear that once a Shaman completes 2nd class change and becomes Warcryer/Overlord they no longer get ANY of their opposites buffs.

I didn't watch the other class buffs as closely, but you may want to do the same with the others also. If a class stops getting upgrades to a skill simply state that the lower class gets the skill instead of attributing it to their next class. (aka Clerics get level X, Prophets get X+Y, but Bishops don't get any.)

Okay, that's a good suggestion. Perhaps if I explain that they got it while a shaman so have it as an Overlord.

Also, thanks to everyone for the suggestions and feedback.

Zerk lowers mdef as well
Prophet has all resists (wind/aqua/fire/poision)
Acumen is good for bds/sks as well, even tks/sws sometime.

what about 76+ buffs?

I would need feedback on who wants what of any 76 plus buffs since I have zero experience with them.

Prophet has all elemental resists (wind/aqua/fire/poision)

Unfortunately, no resist shock >< I dropped a boxed prophet and now box an ee/se with my WS. (not to mention the improved regen capabilities.)

Elemental Protection, everyone who is taking elemental dmg of various types, if only one type, better to buff specific ressist buff

Prophecy of Fire, everyone who is dealing physical dmg (archers/melees), or in some situations who is recieving physical dmg (20% pdef is included in that buff), or usage as second btb (20%+- max hp)

thats proph

Thanks! I'll add that.

Mental Shield keeps the name all the way to level 4 (changed in C4). They changed the description to protects against hold, sleep (,fear?) and mental attacks in C4, instead of silence. I don't know exactly what that means.

Empower is often wanted by Bladedancers and Co to help land their hex,hate, life drain :)

Empower is often wanted by Bladedancers and Co to help land their hex,hate, life drain :)

And SKs DAs for their drains and debuffs.

Everything looks good IMO, except for this:

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(referring to the width=17038 part)
The table is a tinsy bit toooooooo wide ^^ I get a horizontal scroll the size of Norway!

Mental Shield keeps the name all the way to level 4 (changed in C4). They changed the description to protects against hold, sleep (,fear?) and mental attacks in C4, instead of silence. I don't know exactly what that means.

Okay I'm getting around to changing this and I don't have the game here where I am working on this. So did they remove Mental Aegis completely and leave Mental Shield all the way?

I made some changes to this table now. I've added songs and dances and took a stab at when to use them. I'd appreciate feedback from BDs and SwSs on changes that I should make.

I also need any feedback from the third class change people. I added the Hierophant from the feedback here (thank you very much!), but I need the others.

Thanks again!

very nicely done Jute, GJ :)

BerzerkerSspirit(zerk) and Rage of Paggaro now also lower mdef and increse run speed.

Emp is good for ony one who used magic skills hate and spoil are not affected by emp (common misstake)

Sorcs and SPS also get up to concentration 6

Holy Weapon now also works for Bow users but not mages ;(.

and i dunn see ee's weight penalty buff thingy on there i dunn remeber what its called though... Other than that looks great Jute.