Now, if you'll so kindly as to take a look at my signature, you'll see I'm Rising Blades. Oh well. Does your seemingly pointless KoS on us suck? Yeah, but life goes on. I won't let your stupid war ruin my gaming experience. Nope! NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!
Speaking of stupid war, this leads me t the point of this thread. Now, let me be VERY clear on something - THIS IS NOT A FLAMING THREAD, GOD DAMMIT!!!!! This is an inquiry from someone who is still a newbie in this game, and has actively avoided political ties with either Chaos or Invincible. I could care less about you two slaughtering each other, baiting, nagging, competing, or what have you. What I am curious about, however, is what actually started the war. From the way it sounds, it's been going on for a good year and a half to two years. I've heard rumors that Chaos and Invincible were once cool with each other, but what caused the rift, and the fighting.
Now, I would like to hear from EVERYONE. Chaos, Invincible, Mirage, Rising Blades....don't care. But if I see this becoming a hate / bash / flame thread, I'm going to delete it. And if I can't do that, then I'll simply ask TrueLies to lock it so you can't hijack my thread. Now, for those who can be civil, your input is greatly appreciated. For those who cannot control themselves, your silence is appreciated.
(And if I knew where Chaos's forums were, I'd post this here TOO!)
Thank you.
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Echoes of Darkness / Rising Blades
3x Palace Knight (Shillien Knight)
Quick sum up...as biased as i can be...i mean un-biased... :eek:
Early Chronicles the big clans were Primez Forsakken and Knights Of Rose (chinese players who had played L2 previously)
Darkness got drunk.
Kor has HUGE jump on everyone and held down hunting areas etc. Then Primez etc fought back. Kruma (as it was called then) was like HUGE farmer grounds as well as the best place to lvl at the time. This made for HUUUGE farmer + player fights.
Darkness got drunk and watched.
Out of this Emerged the new power clan...RICE. RICE was a farmer based clan which consisted of players like Excellion ...and uhm.....others. Couple of the current invincible stem form that clan. And the roots of INvincible come from this clan.
RICE stood up for the famerers (since they were the farmers) and people began to get very mad. So this guy Namo forms this clan Blackwatch and goes CRAZY recruiting getting like 3 clans of people who hate farmers. On the other side Excellion gets an alliance of players who "didn't care about anyone but them selves" so they would say.
So that brought on the Blackwatch vs. Invincible aka RICE clans 1-12. Blackwatch grew to big and broke apart with namo quitting the game. Primez had htis HUGE like 30 psot thread about how the leaders wanted to sell adena or something stupid so that broke apart.
Darkness.....yup got drunk.
Now invincible held thier heads high didn't care about what anyone thought. With the subject of farmers ebay etc. They would answer " yea so we do it, at least we admit it".
im getting tired.
Invincible then fought other farmers called rebellion...stateing it was becuase they were farmers..which to Darkness made no sense. you see since C1 darkness has remaind in the shadows jsut kinda hanging around not getting to involved into politics (we wished to not get into that in l2...funny huh :confused:).
We thought it was stupid for Invincible who were known farmers farmer supporters to say omg we need to kill rebellioon they are farmers....and Rebellion was saying omg invincible is farmers !!!....so confused we stayed out of it.
At this time Darkness was attemtping to taking Dion. BOTH rebellion and Invincible stated they would help and stop the other side from coming..obviously accepting either sides help was not good so we declined. (now was this before or after we turned applicant Truelies down for darkness...hmm can't remember oh well).
Darkness took dion some how managed to stay Nuetral for a bit.
Then...it happened..Invincible defeated Rebellion..kings of the server they walked over anyone they wished pk'ed who they wanted etc.....when they killed darkness "cause they felt like it"........obviously they didn't know who we were.
So thats when we mustered like the entire server agasint them holding dion back against the 4 invincible alliances they had at the time.
Side note: Now this point in time on the server required a LOT of PR. So the obvious rants of scammers ebayers and botters were thrown at invincible. Now invincible was no doubt all of those, and still is, however we blew it out of porportion and played the innoccent we'd never do that role.
Back to main story... So we defend dion like 5 times outnumbered and we get EXTREMLY tired of doing so. Btw this was when Darkness led the Shadow alliance. Nuetral clans said ohh we want to seige. So we decided to give up the castle to nuetral clan by jsut leaving it undefended. Wanna know how many nuetral clans that whined so much we werent allowing them to seige showed up that day? NONE. Thats right when we said were leaving the castle undefended for you clans they didnt show up and invin took it.
What happened after this idk. I think i got drunk or something.
Next thing i remember is when Mirage once nuetral was being pushed around by invin then turned to our side!!! YES Hurry we destroyed the evil invincible once more etc etc.
Then Syndicate forms..this some crazy stuff. ER gets mad leaves invincible we take them in...hey they actually pretty cool people...Hi escobar lolish volish what you up to? 001010101 oh yea they got kicked from mirage for botting and still botted in syndicate..whatever to each his own..0101010111.
Syndicate was some how tagged as like this insanely evil alliance. This is when invincible changes thier PR scheme. Once it was "yea we ebay farm bot pk whatever do something about it" was now "omg syndicate ebays farms bots pks we must do somethign about it!!!"
mirage after the original "defeat" of invinicible. (oh yea the defeat was when half invin ran to bartz and the others took "breaks") So mirage decided to go thier own way ohh ok see ya mirage that was awsome being allies!!! So we go our own ways.
Step one of mirage being like omg not cool was when we were trying to go dawn to hold our castles Mirage decided to go dusk to "see what happened"....ya see mirage did not like the Evil botting pking syndicate (remember the invin propaganda!! see it works) so they kinda placed them selves at the opposite side when ever they could.
Then it was like you would go to seige...it be Mirage + inv vs Syndicate...
hey mirage your allied with invin....
no were not...
:confused:
so we get mad and fight. Syndicate broke apart. The clans tried to do thier own thing but realized we must stand to gether to defeat our common enemy. So chaos was born.
if anyone wants to edit that complete nonsense please do. Hope that helps any.... :p
I really am not totally aware how the Chaos/Invincible war got started. I didn't join this server until maybe a month before Syndicate (where most of today's Chaos came from apparently) split.
I really am not totally aware how the Chaos/Invincible war got started. I didn't join this server until maybe a month before Syndicate (where most of today's Chaos came from apparently) split.
I'd wager the vast majority of players with characters in Invin/Chaos clans: a) were not around during the initial events Lem discussed; b) really don't care about the history of it all; c) have friends that play toons on both sides of the server conflict.
In this game you really just need someone to fight- it's not about history or some sort of justice or revenge beyond maybe getting back at somebody for ganking you last week, etc.
I started out in C1 in TOG clan and Invin used to start fights with us all the time, so I naturally gravitated against them. I have a friend or two in Invin clans- and there are players I admire and despise both there and in my own alliance.
To Maireth or anyone else who might consider getting involved in more endgame aspects of L2- don't be too concerned about choosing the 'right' side of the server fight if you do decide to depart from neutrality. There are great players (and rotten players) on either side of the line- get out there and kill some people.
Oh the history of Lionna ^^ So full of drama! Here is some background from how Mirage was formed.
Way back when my lil orcie was around level 23 or so, fighting around Forgotten temple (look on the map!), I joined a clan, that later was remade or something into.... wait for it.. VeniVidiVici (the original!). Awesome, me (Svii), BasCelik, Flurrbo, Tech2o, Dwiea++++ among others were in it from almost the start. This was the birth of Awesome's growing lust for power!
We were carebear towards everyone except t3h evil farmers! Fun days ^^ When being red actually meant something! Time passed, BasCelik decided to quit, so most of us joined a clan named Mirage, led by Rizem. However, Rizem was away most of the time so the clan died..
Awesome created Exordium with the remaining members of the Mirage clan. We joined Shadow alliance at some point, and helped defend Dion 3-5 times, not really sure anyways. There was some drama, Shadow broke, Inv lost alot of people, Syndicate was formed. Exordium left Shadow and created the now famous longest standing alliance led by the same person, Mirage, whose main goals were to stand outside the drama and paly like we wanted. More or less successful up until present time, we still do what we want.
We went dusk, well, because we felt that it was the thing we wanted to do. We joined Dawn at one time because we found out defending while being Dusk sucked!!! Can't respawn in castle etc. In other words, Dawn was a better choice for us to play like WE wanted. Mirage always did that, ally to Inv or not. Lots of speculations and lies on this part. Syndicate was picking on Mirage, prolly out of boredom, Inv wasn't. Hmm.. who to support?! :O
Mirage stopped being neutral. What, no more carebear?! No, that's not it, we're still carebear on the inside! Blah blah, there was lots of turmoil when Synd collapsed under themselves, Inv came back big time and ruled the server under the shadow of Mirage, or was it the other way around hahaha ;)
Chaos became a big powerhouse alliance, 2nd most powerful alliance, Inv being the most powerful and Mirage being the 3rd strongest alliance.
Times were interesting for a couple months with actual fighting for seals. This is where we're at now. Inv+Mirage Vs Chaos+random others.
History shows that a 3 way fight isn't possible, Mirage tried, but in the end it couldn't work with all the lies and hotheads, on all sides. Interesting times indeed, can't wait to see what the future brings!
Step one of mirage being like omg not cool was when we were trying to go dawn to hold our castles Mirage decided to go dusk to "see what happened"....ya see mirage did not like the Evil botting pking syndicate (remember the invin propaganda!! see it works) so they kinda placed them selves at the opposite side when ever they could.
Then it was like you would go to seige...it be Mirage + inv vs Syndicate...
hey mirage your allied with invin....
no were not...
:confused:
well mirage originally went dusk just becuz we had no castles so many ppl thought its wrong to be dawn or ppl like me just didnt see the point in paying 50k only that some1 we are neutral to can keep his castles (50k was quite alot of money for me back then Oo)
well and for the siege mirage sieged before aswell theres some ppl who enjoy sieging and mirage ever followd the principle siege stuff stays in siege (which syn told to us aswell at some point while forming) so we wantet to reg for giran siege to have some fun siege but all mirage clanleaders therer got pkt by a hughe amount of chaos camping the npc and mirage ppl got REALLY ****** about it and wed prolly have wared syn on our own (not sure if was 1st legion officer still at that point but i think i just was new to exo) well i was ever somewhat hotheaded so i was one of thoose who wantet to even the bill we knew we had bad chances so when inv offerd help why not they were ok to us when we was neutral to choas and syn and the enemy of an enemy is a friend kinda
so at the end syn was the main reason why mirage sided with inv
when chaos was formed mirage offerd peace to chaos but some ppl didnt want it so the war has gone on
well thats what i rember but my memory isnt the best and i had my 3month army break and less playtime during the period where i was in army and that was in the syn times for a while
also the mirage that helped at dion was mirage the clan that actually was in shadow alliance if i rember right (or it was already exo clan not sure but for sure not mirage alliance)
when rizem left the game (the leader of mirage clan) awe formed exordium and he ever wantet to make an euro ally when he finally formed mirage he contactet me and some other euro based clans i liked the idea alot and 1st legion and friendly clans (hnx, warfare) joined mirage and was some of the founding members
oh and you forgot the legion alliance on the anti inv side i still think they are worth to mention like nightfall who were pretty big too
setech we all know you were butthurt about the castle but i dont care about having castles i liked sieges back then tho cuz ppl showed and most saw it the same way
sieges now got boring often but lately theres some action
Ye but see there is the point....you aided in siege therefor you can't be neutral....when you help in pvp aka sieges on one side, how can you expect to stay neutral?
i couldn't care anymore, cause its the same bs that we're gonna write all over again....but my point is "when you pvp aka siege for 1 side, how can you expect the other side not to +++war invite to you?
we aided in the siege AFTER all our clanleaders got pkt by syn and we got pushed around by syn before aswell and we were kos to syn for doing some rb with inv aswell
I agree, but your history is tainted by propaganda, it's chronologically screwed up as a result ^^
Unless you were in Mirage at the time, you won't know the true story, even if we told it over and over, which we have done several times. Which is also the reason I didn't go into it too much. It doesn't matter anymore.
Yes we did fight Inv for a while in shadows. Then we managed to become neutral until certain events took place, and thus changed our gameplay to accomodate the new situation, that we really didn't want in the first place. Not the point of the thread anyways. Point is, most Chaos can't handle the truth! ;)
we were even kos to inv when mirage was formed cuz misumi autofloowd his pony on gmb and ppl made fun of him best war reason i have seen so far in this game Oo
Cuz y'all jumped on theChaos/Dusk bandwagon basically.
Wrong.
Because losing a castle means you get it back the next siege anyways. My point was that there are no real sieges anymore. If there is a "siege", it's because one side is too bored to wait around the castle and the other side zergs the remaining 50 people defending it. When you lose the castle the next siege, it doesn't mean a thing. Only advantage of castles now is scrolls and pots. Period. Mirage sure as hell doesn't care if we lose all our castles, it just means we can go siege again. ++fun!
Sad really, I still remember the sieges back in C1, that was serious sieging for 2 hours. Real fighting from all sides. FUN!
i didnt ever care that much about festivals since i found out meeles are useless in it cuz i hate playing ranged chars and ppl didnt want my bish either
Some questions regarding this: Say someone owns their own castle, or is assisting someone not in the inv+mirage vs. Chaos fight, or is trying to take a castle not associated with either. What would happen if a Inv or Chaos or Mirage clan joined up with the opposing side, like not as a fully organized thing, maybe just helping out some friends, or wanting to seige for kicks. If you defended/attacked the castled would you have to make sure to avoid the Inv/Chaos toons, or just give up altogether to avoid being KoS to either? What if an Inv or Chaos player or group joined your seige just because they wanted to raid and were friends with you, would you go KoS with the opposing team? How much wiggle room do neutral players have? Might they just as well leave a seige if any Inv/Chaos players show to avoid becoming KoS?
Would someone be more likely to become KoS if they joined an Inv/Chaos team with a few of their members, and lots of Inv/Chaos members, or allowing a few chaos/inv members to join them in some activity? (RB killing, siege, etc.)
Just trying to get a feel of how Chaos and Inv measure collusion with the enemy in regards to what it takes to go KoS with them. If its as simple as trying to seige or get RB's at all, thats kinda silly imo, but as this is a world pvp game, they can do whatever they want I guess, if people don't like it they just try to stop them is all.
Just a newbie trying to get a feel for the politics here. ;)
Hmm, depends on the situation really.. If you're XPing with a certain alliance that is in war, expect their enemies to come and kill them. They might also kill you for being in their group helping them XP getting more powerful. Depends on the people you meet. Some will warn you to stay away and leave, other are more bloodthirsty, kill first, talk later. I've killed neutrals for rezzing my enemies, I think it's within my right to do so. It sends a clear message not to interfere. Sit down or port out if something like this happens, chances are you can SOE safely before or after it starts. A tag helps though, if you're in a clan people tend to be more careful, untagged however, you'll be considered an enemy, since it's normal for both sides to have untagged people with them.
Sieging is different. As it stands now, Gludio, Dion and Innadril are considered "free" castles. That means anyone can siege them without consequence. Sometimes Inv/Chaos/Mirage will show up to see if they can find any enemies, but most of the time won't interfere unless they're attacked.
A KOS takes some effort to achieve though. There is a difference between incidents, and continuingly supporting our enemies. People are paranoid when they PVP, and don't take any chances. Just don't moan about becoming collateral damage, that just makes it worse! ;)
That answered some but not all of my questions, thanks. But I still have one left, what would happen if I'm defending a castle seal in a seige, and an Inv or Chaos team comes in, the castle is neutral, and the opposing clan is, but Inv or Chaos group signed up on their side. If they come to attack me while I'm defending the seal will the put me on KOS if I defend the castle?
I can understand it with raid bosses, as if an Inv or chaos team kills me they can take it and the loot, but if its just one inv or chaos team in a siege, and they don't even get the castle if they win, would they be butthurt if I killed them and put me as KoS?
if its a castle you have already and you defend it means you got innadril or dion and neither chaos or inv wont put you kos for defending your castle if some of their enemies show up theya prolly come by and kill em and if some of your ppl atack em they might kill em too but there shouldnt be any consequenzes
Cuz y'all jumped on theChaos/Dusk bandwagon basically.
Wrong.
Because losing a castle means you get it back the next siege anyways. My point was that there are no real sieges anymore. If there is a "siege", it's because one side is too bored to wait around the castle and the other side zergs the remaining 50 people defending it. When you lose the castle the next siege, it doesn't mean a thing. Only advantage of castles now is scrolls and pots. Period. Mirage sure as hell doesn't care if we lose all our castles, it just means we can go siege again. ++fun!
I believe the incident youre reffering to is last siege weekend at giran castle?
Thats not called being bored and everyone leaving
Thats called predictable behavior and poor leadership by deus.
We knew we would take oren however we also knew it would be possible to take both oren and giran.
Someone asked for an update on how the chaos/inv fight happened..
Before Syn fell, ER owned giran, shal was like omg im qutting, shard take the castle.. abrams was like okay, but we wanted to be able to plant flags at the castle so bluewolves gave the castle to our alt clan, sheerah was like omg yay, setech and sheerah made love that night..
our spy in exordium pm's me telling me that awesome and gmb have struck a deal and awesome and mirage will siege giran, awesome said "bw doesnt deserve giran" and then told us, omg that is lies, i am not sieging against yall, WE ARE NEUTRAL!!!!!!!! spy tells us again, [censored] yes we are sieging, and awesome tell us "okay yes we sieging but just for fun teehee"
giran siege rolls around and sure enough, awesome is fed giran by gmb, but still claims he is neutral, oren fell to bbw, and syn died shortly after
inv and mirage were like omg we are not allies, 2 weeks later, haha we are jk we are allies
ek was around and made an alliance named evolution, darkness was in an ally by themselves, bluewolves, sentinelles, dawn of istaria were doing raidbosses and making hand over fist in cash
sandron was like omg lets do antharas after talking with me on vent, i told fate and he was like omg i gotta go check my underwear.. needless to say, bw and co went to antharas, and some friends in tog came too
inv was like omg tog, you do not help them, i dont care if you want to enjoy the game and see antharas, they are evil and sharif has fleas!!!!!
a neutral alliance named "nirvana" kos'd tog for coming with us, they were like omg no... czarr from nirvana saw fateoflife (bw leader) pk gizarth so hes like omg im gonna kill him, yeah he died too and fate was like wth? next day i got attacked and so did other bw members, and evo didnt like that either so we all fought nirvana until most of them tucked tails and joined invincible.. wow what a surprise.
tog disbanded, phalloidin was like omg sandron can i join? sandron was like omg yes
tala and yala roleplayed, and setech and i watched in excitement, phedrah joined in too, and well rest is x-rated
evo dissolved and a bunch of clans came together and formed chaos
bw and co merged with aurorae
we fought side by side with chaos for a while until ek left and people were like omg, we are friends, let just merge, so we merged
everyone was already fighting invincible for one reason or another. the alliance agreed we were merging for common goals, and not to destroy invincible but to have fun (regardless of what truelies feeds you)
the deal between awe and gmb was made after syb pkt all mirage clanleaders that tried to sign up before that there were no plans sieging together with inv so your spy sucks
the deal between awe and gmb was made after syb pkt all mirage clanleaders that tried to sign up before that there were no plans sieging together with inv so your spy sucks
pk'ed on their way to sign to seige then you whined ooohhh your not letting uss seige ohhhh sooo horrible!!! were nuetral blahg blah seigE?
the deal between awe and gmb was made after syb pkt all mirage clanleaders that tried to sign up before that there were no plans sieging together with inv so your spy sucks
rofl, thats such a crock... yamamaya (oops, did i say that?) told us way before you guys were signing up that yall were going to siege, dont feed me that bs, awe and i discussed this on teamspeak way before siege times, go lie to someone else
Ok Luna, you have violated the BW EULA Section XI subparagraph 118 that specifically states that all XXX rp in Clan chat is strictly confidential. I'm sorry, but your voyeur rights have been revoked.
I'm greatly amused by the fact that Chaos (and predecessors) have continued a year long war against Mirage because they didn't like how they fought at one siege. I mean, wow, that strategy was a great success. Mirage didn't cave in, nope, they joined your enemy and facilitated most of their accomplishments in the last year. Brilliant strategy Syndicate!
Of course, maybe Chaos learned, they've been nice to neutrals. No, wait, I figured it out. I think Invincible stole their play-book and is trying to perfect the technique of helping the enemy recruit. Yes, that's it!
inv was like omg tog, you do not help them, i dont care if you want to enjoy the game and see antharas, they are evil and sharif has fleas!!!!!
a neutral alliance named "nirvana" kos'd tog for coming with us, they were like omg no... czarr from nirvana saw fateoflife (bw leader) pk gizarth so hes like omg im gonna kill him, yeah he died too and fate was like wth? next day i got attacked and so did other bw members, and evo didnt like that either so we all fought nirvana until most of them tucked tails and joined invincible.. wow what a surprise.
actually- tog didn't come to the antharas raid, although I had dropped tag and was en route to help when, in an infamous domestic PK incident, my wife demanded that I do the laundry as we were running through DVC to get to the portal.
In a mind-boggling series of retaliatory KOSes, tog became KOS to nirvana (briefly) because evolution was KOSing nirvana because Invin threatened to KOS tog for helping at antharas. tog dipped out of antharas because we were planning on disbanding, but didn't want to do it while KOS to invin because truelies would have been touching himself all week saying he broke tog because he KOSed us, etc.
I'm greatly amused by the fact that Chaos (and predecessors) have continued a year long war against Mirage because they didn't like how they fought at one siege. I mean, wow, that strategy was a great success. Mirage didn't cave in, nope, they joined your enemy and facilitated most of their accomplishments in the last year. Brilliant strategy Syndicate!
Of course, maybe Chaos learned, they've been nice to neutrals. No, wait, I figured it out. I think Invincible stole their play-book and is trying to perfect the technique of helping the enemy recruit. Yes, that's it!
please stop pretending like we are idiots
mirage and inv had formal relations well before any formal kos
the kos was the result of such formal relations so the blame falls on you and yours
what i find funny is that inv treats mirage far worse than synd ever did and mirage is allied with inv lol
Hmm, about Inv relations, I don't think so ^^ We have our drama sure, but nothing like what Synd did. Ah well, no point in discussing, what the spies say MUST BE TRUE!! erm..
Yeh, we had formal friendship with Inv, in a way that we didn't interfere in their pvp, and they didn't do anything against us. As I've already said, trying to be inbetween two alliances fighting, being friends/neutral to them, is impossible. That is history, it's much more clear now, and I like it.
Chaos did good, very good. GG Chaos, I must say :) Lionna is more interesting now than ever.
Someone asked for an update on how the chaos/inv fight happened..
Before Syn fell, ER owned giran, shal was like omg im qutting, shard take the castle.. abrams was like wth okay, but we wanted to be able to plant flags at the castle so bluewolves gave the castle to our alt clan, sheerah was like omg yay, setech and sheerah made love that night..
our spy in exordium pm's me telling me that awesome and gmb have struck a deal and awesome and mirage will siege giran, awesome said "bw doesnt deserve giran" and then told us, omg that is lies, i am not sieging against yall, WE ARE NEUTRAL!!!!!!!! spy tells us again, [censored] yes we are sieging, and awesome tell us "okay yes we sieging but just for fun teehee"
giran siege rolls around and sure enough, awesome is fed giran by gmb, but still claims he is neutral, oren fell to bbw, and syn died shortly after
inv and mirage were like omg we are not allies, 2 weeks later, haha we are jk we are allies
ek was around and made an alliance named evolution, darkness was in an ally by themselves, bluewolves, sentinelles, dawn of istaria were doing raidbosses and making hand over fist in cash
sandron was like omg lets do antharas after talking with me on vent, i told fate and he was like omg i gotta go check my underwear.. needless to say, bw and co went to antharas, and some friends in tog came too
inv was like omg tog, you do not help them, i dont care if you want to enjoy the game and see antharas, they are evil and sharif has fleas!!!!!
a neutral alliance named "nirvana" kos'd tog for coming with us, they were like omg no... czarr from nirvana saw fateoflife (bw leader) pk gizarth so hes like omg im gonna kill him, yeah he died too and fate was like wth? next day i got attacked and so did other bw members, and evo didnt like that either so we all fought nirvana until most of them tucked tails and joined invincible.. wow what a surprise.
tog disbanded, phalloidin was like omg sandron can i join? sandron was like omg yes
tala and yala roleplayed, and setech and i watched in excitement, phedrah joined in too, and well rest is x-rated
evo dissolved and a bunch of clans came together and formed chaos
bw and co merged with aurorae
we fought side by side with chaos for a while until ek left and people were like omg, we are friends, let just merge, so we merged
everyone was already fighting invincible for one reason or another. the alliance agreed we were merging for common goals, and not to destroy invincible but to have fun (regardless of what truelies feeds you)
*Starts his own Luna Fan Club*
I can't ever tell if you're high when you post or really were raised in the Valley....either way you're a goofy fellow and someday I hope I'm just like you :D
In a mind-boggling series of retaliatory KOSes, tog became KOS to nirvana (briefly) because evolution was KOSing nirvana because Invin threatened to KOS tog for helping at antharas. tog dipped out of antharas because we were planning on disbanding, but didn't want to do it while KOS to invin because truelies would have been touching himself all week saying he broke tog because he KOSed us, etc.
You're assuming that TL has stopped touching himself after taking GMB's throne for long enough to re-touch himself for getting ToG to disband ;)
I'm sry - i don't xp?
or i leave clan to get 1011000111?
HELLO ?
How about asking the same thing to your ally m8..... ring a bell?.
or even some of ur own clan m8s *point finger at* BIGGYLUV
Don't for one sec. think that your all clear and ****, cause you ain't, and never will be.
I'm sry - i don't xp?
or i leave clan to get 1011000111?
HELLO ?
How about asking the same thing to your ally m8..... ring a bell?.
or even some of ur own clan m8s *point finger at* BIGGYLUV
Don't for one sec. think that your all clear and ****, cause you ain't, and never will be.
Gee sticky if I am not mistaken I think you just got ....whats the word I am looking for...oh yea...PWNED
i dont know much about the history of the server b4 i played L2 on lionna but can talk (a little) about what happened when i get involved in some politics stuff due to my clan join mirage. it was when all the syndicate stuff ends and mirage was for a cool time just pve. but some stuff happens: isolated incidents, thedarkness start to gank ppol, some incidents with evolution (specially the RB 'incident'), ... everybody in mirage wanted to remain being pve and leaders do it best to try it but the only option gift by enemies was: dont xp with inv, dont siege with inv, dont do raids with inv,... so mirage start to fight for its FREEDOM. so yes, mirage was forced by chaos to become a pvp ally and fight chaos
that is not an attack to the actual chaos, just wanted to point that mistake, cos if mirage had been left remaining pve as them wanted to be maybe now forces would be equal in the inv-chaos war. but heart (hate) is more powerful than reason and some ppol can control their resentment for past matters so chaos is now outnumbered (althought doing the best work being outnumbered).
i dont know much about the history of the server b4 i played L2 on lionna but can talk (a little) about what happened when i get involved in some politics stuff due to my clan join mirage. it was when all the syndicate stuff ends and mirage was for a cool time just pve. but some stuff happens: isolated incidents, thedarkness start to gank ppol, some incidents with evolution (specially the RB 'incident'), ... everybody in mirage wanted to remain being pve and leaders do it best to try it but the only option gift by enemies was: dont xp with inv, dont siege with inv, dont do raids with inv,... so mirage start to fight for its FREEDOM. so yes, mirage was forced by chaos to become a pvp ally and fight chaos
that is not an attack to the actual chaos, just wanted to point that mistake, cos if mirage had been left remaining pve as them wanted to be maybe now forces would be equal in the inv-chaos war. but heart (hate) is more powerful than reason and some ppol can control their resentment for past matters so chaos is now outnumbered (althought doing the best work being outnumbered).
edited to try improving english
Your ally would never have remained pve considering you were raiding and, more importantly, sieging with INV during the Syndicate days. Some Mirage members blame SYN, others blame Chaos. No Mirage members ever blame Mirage which is what I disagree with. Mirage is the alliance that has always had their cake and eaten it too. I, for one, am happy that your ally can no longer "ride the fence."
Obviously the only solution is for Mirage and RB to speak with all the "neutrals", form a major zerg, war all of chaos and Invin, take all the castles in the name of the Neutral zerg, and have everyone fighting everyone.
Sure we would all be about level 20 again in a few weeks time but **** it would be fun. And hey the adena and SP would be handy as we go from Level 20 back up to the 70's.
*wakes up*
So bored with all this chest beating and history rewriting.
So, hillary, delive and havik gonna join back to ofdoom soon, or whatever clan they were in? Funny that we had a little gate war on Sunday I believe and they were tagged, that ss was taken Monday, funny huh?
Dang Marcus, I've had that dream too. Spooky. Oh, but I don't delevel to 20 in it. I'm an EE. On the plus side though, GoE and Cruma would be a lot more lively again. :P
You've inspired me though now, I need to rewrite server history to show how TOG engineered the Mirage-Syndicate war, as Sandron recently claimed I did. It was news to me too, but with some creative writing, should be a neat story. Hey, I bet I could work Risingblades into the story too. Yes....Marcus, you got pk'd by Phalloidin back in the TOG days. And you have since lived in terror of his l33t bishop skillz. So now your alliance lives in the shadow of the dark bishop following his evil designs. Yes, yes....
You've inspired me though now, I need to rewrite server history to show how TOG engineered the Mirage-Syndicate war, as Sandron recently claimed I did. It was news to me too, but with some creative writing, should be a neat story
Yea took mine out too cause i called BIGGYLUV a bot probly. But i mean its true.
They should take out the 600 step process in checking to see if someone is botting. Its so obvious, they should jsut be like hmmm...yea thats a bot /ban. Doubt they would get to many emails. And if they did it would be like "OHH but my friend was playing and held down the heal button" or something stupid
please stop pretending like we are idiots
mirage and inv had formal relations well before any formal kos
the kos was the result of such formal relations so the blame falls on you and yours
what i find funny is that inv treats mirage far worse than synd ever did and mirage is allied with inv lol
gg?
That was a reply to me from you. You said "you and yours" but I was in TOG during the start of the mirage-syndicate war, and then I went untagged when TOG dissolved and ended up joining a neutral alliance. I have nothing to do with Mirage. Actually, at last siege my tyrant in d-grade jewelry killed an a-grade mirage nuker by himself, marking one of my best accomplishments yet in L2.
I was just being silly above though, so don't get all steamed up. Most people have no idea who I am since I'm still fairly low level.
Actually yes and it was funny as hell. I was the Ally leader at the time and was stuck explaining to Marcus why two of our folk blew into SoDA and pk'd his entire party who were helping a lowbie level at the time. Something about ... err... how bishops tend to like to get first hit in. I think I still have the PM from Phal at the time as he tried to spin it to me.
I do love to save potential blackmail material. :D
Actually yes and it was funny as hell. I was the Ally leader at the time and was stuck explaining to Marcus why two of our folk blew into SoDA and pk'd his entire party who were helping a lowbie level at the time. Something about ... err... how bishops tend to like to get first hit in. I think I still have the PM from Phal at the time as he tried to SPIN it to me.
I do love to save potential blackmail material. :D
Spin? O Marcus had his hand in the Evil pot that day- you all may think he is a nice do-gooder and all, but for those of us that were there that day, we truly know what an evil griefer Marcus is- we won't be fooled!!!1 :eek:
Ssshh you or I'll.....*hesitates*....throw daffodils at you.
*Wires up a few pipebombs and quietly blu-tacks them to Phal, Valdis and Paks armour*
*Whispers to himself* "Who wants some"
3...2...1....
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At least this thread is a bit more fun now
I do remember killing a keyboard over that Soda incident- guy called Blackswordsman I think - he loved killing bots and I think he took you guys on down there first
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