This is a call out to every player on sieghardt to do something that no server has of yet succeded in doing. Removing the "Resource Gathering Individuals" (Far**rs is now deemed racist) from our server that make end game raid bosses unattainable. For full information about this uprising and how to partisipate click HERE (http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39274)
If we all work together our goal is more than attainable, everyone can help make a diffrence.
This is a call out to every player on sieghardt to do something that no server has of yet succeded in doing. Removing the "Resource Gathering Individuals" (Far**rs is now deemed racist) from our server that make end game raid bosses unattainable. For full information about this uprising and how to partisipate click <a href="Resource Gathering Individuals" target="_blank">HERE</a>
If we all work together our goal is more than attainable, everyone can help make a diffrence.
i am apart of these raids whenever i see the shout. i have gone red several times, even when i was outnumbered 12-1
i completly agree with aff, and this is the same thing as haveing one hugh ally, and it's not hate-mongering or whatever. just a big ally vs another ally....it's all good :)
but dont the farmers technechaly set and dertarmin the prices for the server. good framing = low prices
bad farming = high prices
when we are low on certain things those certain things raise alot invalue and if we have to craft them then the mats to craft them raise in value too. but if there is alot of things being crafted and gathered by the farmers then prices are lower since they are more common now and easier to get ahold of ;p just what i thought about farmers
but i have no personal opinion in this matter lol im just a new guy *wink wink*
See the farmers shouldn't be the ones to determine the pricing on the servers. It should be the real players to do that. Thats why so many people have a problem. They say theres 2 solutions to solving this problem 1.) Don't buy from farmers & 2.) NC soft ban or delete those accounts.
Both solutions are going to be extremely hard to do :(
Well, the reason why I say it's hard for both, is because you can't control all the players on the server & no matter how much u tell a player who makes a comment about the prices being so high, to not buy from farmers, there will always be someone out there who will do it. Which is sad, but true :(
not to mention so many people who dont know who the farmers and real people are. most people dont care to they just want there god **** gear NOW! doosent matter who is selling it >_<
not to mention so many people who dont know who the farmers and real people are. most people dont care to they just want there god **** gear NOW! doosent matter who is selling it >_<
People who do not look around but want that gear now and today are mostly well financed...and that can raise an eyebrow cause well financed and don't care what it cost...well that says enough for me where the finances came from in the first place.
It makes you wonder if they just don't buy it off from their own kind...to keep the money in the company and in the meantime try to let us see that they have to grind and buy/sell too.
It's a nice political and psychological way to fool the weak-minded...
It makes you wonder if they just don't buy it off from their own kind...to keep the money in the company and in the meantime try to let us see that they have to grind and buy/sell too.
It's a nice political and psychological way to fool the weak-minded...
well then they are only getting the money they worked for so they are gaining nothing. This way they get our money too which makes them richer cause they dont need gear anyways. So our money = IRL money for them not just server money. Since they are actualy a company.
It makes you wonder if they just don't buy it off from their own kind...to keep the money in the company and in the meantime try to let us see that they have to grind and buy/sell too.
It's a nice political and psychological way to fool the weak-minded...
well then they are only getting the money they worked for so they are gaining nothing. This way they get our money too which makes them richer cause they dont need gear anyways. So our money = IRL money for them not just server money. Since they are actualy a company.
I think you misunderstood my post, let me clarify...it doesnt take long for them to have enough mats-recipes-adena to craft S grade...all the rest can be sold on the net.
The longer they can keep the fools buying up their stuff, the better, so from time to time they do "them" a favour. Classic market monopoly strategy.
It makes you wonder if they just don't buy it off from their own kind...to keep the money in the company and in the meantime try to let us see that they have to grind and buy/sell too.
It's a nice political and psychological way to fool the weak-minded...
well then they are only getting the money they worked for so they are gaining nothing. This way they get our money too which makes them richer cause they dont need gear anyways. So our money = IRL money for them not just server money. Since they are actualy a company.
I think you misunderstood my post, let me clarify...it doesnt take long for them to have enough mats-recipes-adena to craft S grade...all the rest can be sold on the net.
The longer they can keep the fools buying up their stuff, the better, so from time to time they do "them" a favour. Classic market monopoly strategy.
errr woops sorry hehe >_< but you got to admit i did explain it pretty well lol
It makes you wonder if they just don't buy it off from their own kind...to keep the money in the company and in the meantime try to let us see that they have to grind and buy/sell too.
It's a nice political and psychological way to fool the weak-minded...
well then they are only getting the money they worked for so they are gaining nothing. This way they get our money too which makes them richer cause they dont need gear anyways. So our money = IRL money for them not just server money. Since they are actualy a company.
I think you misunderstood my post, let me clarify...it doesnt take long for them to have enough mats-recipes-adena to craft S grade...all the rest can be sold on the net.
The longer they can keep the fools buying up their stuff, the better, so from time to time they do "them" a favour. Classic market monopoly strategy.
errr woops sorry hehe >_< but you got to admit i did explain it pretty well lol
LOL if you like the game so much, then enjoy it for the pros & cons. If not the cons might get you ****** off to the point where you might quit the game. :eek:
I am not sure where this post is going becuase all people seem to be now off the topic at hand. In the first place I come onto these bords only during normal working hours so I cant see where that link goes. It is blocked by "Websence". Anyway. was the Idea to form the server togeather to create a massive bot killing community? If so. It is impossible for I the leader of the now disbanded clan "Death2all" have tried that very same thing. The Pro to it is Great but the cons to it are immed. and not alot of people are willing to go red or die @ LVL60+ and 70+ to have the Farmers bring in a Gank group of SHs to roll them over and take there Gear. I for one would love to see the farmers Die and will not put food on there tables with my RL money. As far as the E-bayers let them wast money. I will buy and sell and really the prices mean nothing to me on the server.When greed is high. I make adena off them and they spend RL money like a noob. One thing about this game. Its not just exping its also using common wit. to obtain what you need for exping.
I am not sure where this post is going becuase all people seem to be now off the topic at hand. In the first place I come onto these bords only during normal working hours so I cant see where that link goes. It is blocked by "Websence". Anyway. was the Idea to form the server togeather to create a massive bot killing community? If so. It is impossible for I the leader of the now disbanded clan "Death2all" have tried that very same thing. The Pro to it is Great but the cons to it are immed. and not alot of people are willing to go red or die @ LVL60+ and 70+ to have the Farmers bring in a Gank group of SHs to roll them over and take there Gear. I for one would love to see the farmers Die and will not put food on there tables with my RL money. As far as the E-bayers let them wast money. I will buy and sell and really the prices mean nothing to me on the server.When greed is high. I make adena off them and they spend RL money like a noob. One thing about this game. Its not just exping its also using common wit. to obtain what you need for exping.
I was thinking of making a long post but i changed my mind, so all i can say is: Ok.
Actually, all NCSoft need to do is to visit Blah on a regular basis. People there brag about how many RGI partys they can run at one time, and "I got this drop last night while I was sleeping" or, "You scumbag, I let you use my (RGI's) and this is how you repay me?" They even use their ingame names.
If NCSoft would just read those forums... our RGI population on Sieghardt would be inconsequential.
Or you are to slow, i have seen alot of lvl 70+ bosses that have been alive for hours when im out walking in aden.
Dont blame the sellers only blame every1 that sells and buys the stuff.
ya, but the problem with that it's easy enough for someone to brag about the 3rd party program, but not actually have one. It's hear say & you would need prove to actually get someone to do something about it.
ya, but the problem with that it's easy enough for someone to brag about the 3rd party program, but not actually have one. It's hear say & you would need prove to actually get someone to do something about it.
I dont get why you would brag about cheating.
"Hay today i used WH when i played CS **** i pwnd them all cuz thay are noobs and i cheat ****it im the coolest dude in the world."
Ok now i dont play CS cuz i think its a bad game and i do not use any cheats in any game and so on. No ingame dudes got hurt when writing this post.
Don't ask me, but I have no idea why people would brag about cheating in the first place? Weather they cheat or not cheat either way they tend to still brag about something. Especially on L2Blah, you have no idea who's actually telling the truth or not. :p
Don't ask me, but I have no idea why people would brag about cheating in the first place? Weather they cheat or not cheat either way they tend to still brag about something. Especially on L2Blah, you have no idea who's actually telling the truth or not. :p
It's pretty simple why a clan like ZH or NFI (to name a couple) would brag about botting, 3rd party program use, or leeching off farmers for that matter. Because NC doesn't actually enforce the rules against these abuses on a regular basis, they feel they are "teflon coated" and don't worry about bragging at all. To an extent, they're right. There is no evidence that there will ever be any true enforcement against them, Ondbey, or the farmers. There has been a lot of tough talk about ToS enforcement in the past but the situation is worse than it has ever been in the past.
As to the original topic of this thread, I think PKing farmers is a useless endeavor. They don't care about XP and de-level themselves on a regular basis. The only thing a farmer cares about is losing gear because it costs them money. The worst thing to happen to farmers in a long time willl be C5 because daggers will become flavor of the month again. That means more THs and PWs running around training bots.
Don't ask me, but I have no idea why people would brag about cheating in the first place? Weather they cheat or not cheat either way they tend to still brag about something. Especially on L2Blah, you have no idea who's actually telling the truth or not. :p
It's pretty simple why a clan like ZH or NFI (to name a couple) would brag about botting, 3rd party program use, or leeching off farmers for that matter. Because NC doesn't actually enforce the rules against these abuses on a regular basis, they feel they are "teflon coated" and don't worry about bragging at all. To an extent, they're right. There is no evidence that there will ever be any true enforcement against them, Ondbey, or the farmers. There has been a lot of tough talk about ToS enforcement in the past but the situation is worse than it has ever been in the past.
As to the original topic of this thread, I think PKing farmers is a useless endeavor. They don't care about XP and de-level themselves on a regular basis. The only thing a farmer cares about is losing gear because it costs them money. The worst thing to happen to farmers in a long time willl be C5 because daggers will become flavor of the month again. That means more THs and PWs running around training bots.
Ok that right there was un called for TAKE IT BACK! ;)