TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY

So. Truelies and Invincible go around to every forum and all neutral forums to say how Chaos lied about taxes.

Aden and Giran were kept as promised at the rates told. Oren for 1 day by mistake went to 25%.

They talked about how Chaos lies blah blah blah.


Here's where it gets funny. Aden and Giran ARE STILL at the promised tax rates. The castle Chaos loses to the Mirage/Invin zerg is Oren. And suddenly the taxes are at 25%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how that works isn't it. Hypocrits at its finest.

I don't think we said we'd lower the taxes. In fact the last promise Inv made about taxes was when they took giran ohh so long ago. The promise then was to max the taxes. It was done so i don't see where there's disagreement.

I don't think he's referring to any promise Inv ever made. I think he's referring to people (including those in Inv, reportedly) that complained about the Oren tax at 25% for a day, and now it's back at 25%.

wheres the omoerotic stickysweet when you need him

we need someone to come here and explain calc and O.chem to us before we drown in our own stupidity

lol

lol

So. Truelies and Invincible go around to every forum and all neutral forums to say how Chaos lied about taxes.

HEY! Liar. They didn't visit Nation's forums. :P Maybe they haven't found it yet. Or maybe we're too insignificant for their attentions. :( I feel so left out.

I don't think he's referring to any promise Inv ever made. I think he's referring to people (including those in Inv, reportedly) that complained about the Oren tax at 25% for a day, and now it's back at 25%.

iirc the issue wasn't how high the taxes were but that the impression had been given that there would be no maxxed taxes. It was an issue of keeping a promise not of tax rates.

I don't think he's referring to any promise Inv ever made. I think he's referring to people (including those in Inv, reportedly) that complained about the Oren tax at 25% for a day, and now it's back at 25%.

iirc the issue wasn't how high the taxes were but that the impression had been given that there would be no maxxed taxes. It was an issue of keeping a promise not of tax rates.



NCsoft has 1 scheduled downtime, does this mean there won't be unscheduled? You think we ment to put oren at 25%? You think I ment to have to BSOE outta water so i wouldn't drowned cuz i got stuck on the terrain once? No.
Sometimes things happen we can't control. Was it fixed? Yes. Theres a difference here.

So. Truelies and Invincible go around to every forum and all neutral forums to say how Chaos lied about taxes.

HEY! Liar. They didn't visit Nation's forums. :P Maybe they haven't found it yet. Or maybe we're too insignificant for their attentions. :( I feel so left out.



Nation has forums? :confused:
Gimme URL :D

So. Truelies and Invincible go around to every forum and all neutral forums to say how Chaos lied about taxes.

Aden and Giran were kept as promised at the rates told. Oren for 1 day by mistake went to 25%.

They talked about how Chaos lies blah blah blah.


Here's where it gets funny. Aden and Giran ARE STILL at the promised tax rates. The castle Chaos loses to the Mirage/Invin zerg is Oren because no one was their to defend it LOL . And suddenly the taxes are at 25%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how that works isn't it. Hypocrits at its finest.

Sorry had to add something to your original post

The castle holder of Oren, Whysnasty of clan KissofDawn is not in the game often during the week.

I will have the taxes lowered to 10% asap.

The taxes were preset and not changed i heard but i will have clearity on this.

lol you guys are doing lot of noise for nothing, oren tax is ....
Whysnasty is busy working atm not like you all forum spammer
he set up the castle manor but didnt look at taxe rate, which was at 25% because chaos set it up at 25%. It will be back at 10% when he log . Also what TL say engage only Invincible, and not Mirage in no way.

I think its funny that as soon as chaos takes the castles and make it a point to set taxes low all of a sudden they are a huge deal to everyone
whether it be chaos, mirage or inv.

we arent the bringers of light or anything but we figured itd be nice to have cheap stuff for a while.

I think its funny that as soon as chaos takes the castles and make it a point to set taxes low all of a sudden they are a huge deal to everyone
whether it be chaos, mirage or inv.

we arent the bringers of light or anything but we figured itd be nice to have cheap stuff for a while.

+1 for NCsoft as well, some reminders when taking a castles like manor and taxes would be nice.

Why we still play this game :P

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The castle holder of Oren, Whysnasty of clan KissofDawn is not in the game often during the week.

I will have the taxes lowered to 10% asap.

The taxes were preset and not changed i heard but i will have clearity on this.

See how easyit isfor mistakes to be made people?

I thinkanyone with half a brain and canthink for themselves with ahalf decent degree of common sense would know thatnobody, at anypoint has been lied to over taxes or misled about not having access to the BS of Mammon. we have plenty of people who need it ourselves lol.

The castle holder of Oren, Whysnasty of clan KissofDawn is not in the game often during the week.

I will have the taxes lowered to 10% asap.

The taxes were preset and not changed i heard but i will have clearity on this.

See how easyit isfor mistakes to be made people?

I thinkanyone with half a brain and canthink for themselves with ahalf decent degree of common sense would know thatnobody, at anypoint has been lied to over taxes or misled about not having access to the BS of Mammon. we have plenty of people who need it ourselves lol.



dunno i heard LP was PLing a new Blacksmith of Mammon

The castle holder of Oren, Whysnasty of clan KissofDawn is not in the game often during the week.

I will have the taxes lowered to 10% asap.

The taxes were preset and not changed i heard but i will have clearity on this.

See how easyit isfor mistakes to be made people?

I thinkanyone with half a brain and canthink for themselves with ahalf decent degree of common sense would know thatnobody, at anypoint has been lied to over taxes or misled about not having access to the BS of Mammon. we have plenty of people who need it ourselves lol.



dunno i heard LP was PLing a new Blacksmith of Mammon



LMAO, I'm sure he willbe tagged up soon enough despite the recruiting methods of Deus.

The castle holder of Oren, Whysnasty of clan KissofDawn is not in the game often during the week.

I will have the taxes lowered to 10% asap.

The taxes were preset and not changed i heard but i will have clearity on this.

See how easyit isfor mistakes to be made people?

I thinkanyone with half a brain and canthink for themselves with ahalf decent degree of common sense would know thatnobody, at anypoint has been lied to over taxes or misled about not having access to the BS of Mammon. we have plenty of people who need it ourselves lol.



dunno i heard LP was PLing a new Blacksmith of Mammon

rofl

Here's where it gets funny. Aden and Giran ARE STILL at the promised tax rates. The castle Chaos loses to the Mirage/Invin zerg is Oren. And suddenly the taxes are at 25%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it's a good thing you aren't Chaos' hired PR man....

We took Goddard, too, and taxes were put at 0%...

Nice of you to miss that

lol goddard.

You sure pwnd the CoolClan.

We took the castle. No kidding we'd have no problem. Even the people you sent after us died either before or right on the seige grounds. And you act like it's a big deal. You took Goddard the same way last time. <smirk> Oh, it's only cool when ya'll do it? hahahaha

We took the castle. No kidding we'd have no problem. Even the people you sent after us died either before or right on the seige grounds. And you act like it's a big deal. You took Goddard the same way last time. <smirk> Oh, it's only cool when ya'll do it? hahahaha

yes but when we took Goddard, we didn't have 9+ hog cannons and a bunch of siege golems as props in a pretend performance by the INV alliance called "The Aden Siege."

<sigh> What matters what we did? You argue the process and we were talking results. Whatever. You took Aden w/ a 'bug' a glitch - a less than intended means. You certainly didn't take it the way the game makers intended...

OH, I forgot, it only matters when we are talking about Invincible.

just SHUT UP about the bug/glitch

It was not a BUG or GLITCH

Thats jsut Dues crying because he lsot the crown jewel of his entire alliance.

My god.

Here's where it gets funny. Aden and Giran ARE STILL at the promised tax rates. The castle Chaos loses to the Mirage/Invin zerg is Oren. And suddenly the taxes are at 25%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it's a good thing you aren't Chaos' hired PR man....

We took Goddard, too, and taxes were put at 0%...

Nice of you to miss that



you know whats amazing
all of a sudden inv cares about what people think

all of a sudden youre worried about tax rates???
funny how that happens after you lose 4 castles ^^

as spokesman of chaos Ill go ahead and take indirect credit for goddard's taxes being at 0% (they were at 5% when coolclan had it, had to offset the manor costs somewhat)

keep it there please.

<sigh> What matters what we did? You argue the process and we were talking results. Whatever. You took Aden w/ a 'bug' a glitch - a less than intended means. You certainly didn't take it the way the game makers intended...

OH, I forgot, it only matters when we are talking about Invincible.

Please once again explain this bug/glitch?

Tell exactly how it was done, you seem to know so well as you say it occured.

I know the truth of exactly how it happened. Perfectly legit, no logging out, no glitches, no hax.

But since you are so convinced of the fact it was. Please exaplin cause I don't want to have to put you in the same catagory as Truelies who we know talks out his ***. I thought you were better.

So explain the glitch and how it was used illegaly, or eat your words. thnx

whats more amazing to me is that you don't think its possible that invincible spent an easy 100mil to distract you at aden. Ive seen so many people laughing at invincible for wasting money, 1st of that is funny alone, 2nd, the posts go like this. LOL you wasted 100 mil on purpose?

whats more amazing to me is that you don't think its possible that invincible spent an easy 100mil to distract you at aden. Ive seen so many people laughing at invincible for wasting money, 1st of that is funny alone, 2nd, the posts go like this. LOL you wasted 100 mil on purpose?

you didnt just waste adena but xp as well
while both sides died
lets just say our nukers were oom while you guys were "distracting" us after getting upstairs lol

not to mention the field rushes.... the first few where you were still unorganized while we ran thru everyone and all the way around the castle a coupel times

grats on the perfect distraction. I think everyone would agree that the money and xp lost was well worth goddard

I said you certainly didn't make it the way the game designers intended. Did you take down an outer wall? No. You used other means. I doubt those means were considered when they implemented seiges. Maybe they were. Maybe the designers thought one day someone from Chaos would consider doing this one thing so they could bypass the normal way of getting into a castle.

I said you certainly didn't make it the way the game designers intended. Did you take down an outer wall? No. You used other means. I doubt those means were considered when they implemented seiges. Maybe they were. Maybe the designers thought one day someone from Chaos would consider doing this one thing so they could bypass the normal way of getting into a castle.

gates are up on those catwalks for a reason. you know you can reinforce those right? and put guards there? GMB had no gates (or any other intentional obstacles) when he did his wyvern drop.

way to think outside the box though :/

I said you certainly didn't make it the way the game designers intended. Did you take down an outer wall? No. You used other means. I doubt those means were considered when they implemented seiges. Maybe they were. Maybe the designers thought one day someone from Chaos would consider doing this one thing so they could bypass the normal way of getting into a castle.

So I guess they didn't put Wyverms in the game for castle sieges ?

Somehow the fact that winning Strife prevents people that are defending using Wyverms makes me think otherwise

I said you certainly didn't make it the way the game designers intended. Did you take down an outer wall? No. You used other means. I doubt those means were considered when they implemented seiges. Maybe they were. Maybe the designers thought one day someone from Chaos would consider doing this one thing so they could bypass the normal way of getting into a castle.

kay are you slow or just so enthralled in deus garbage that you dont see reason?

let me spell this out AGAIN

I had to break 2 doors
one of those doors is considered a outer gate

then i strolled into the throne room where there were no gaurds and walked into the artifact room where there were no gaurds and stood in there for probably 15 minutes while burning time

let me explain why this worked

1. dusk strife
doors were so weak that 2 sh could break down a outer gate
inv didnt feel fighting for dawn mattered (thanks)

2. Inv being dusk
relegated all of inv to attackers with one defender, the castle lord
Now seeing how it was an alt clan i had to bet that noone would even be on

So all the system messages were missed or else it wouldnt have worked
for example
1. The outer wall has been broken
2. The inner door has been broken
3. The holy artifact if being engraved
4. the holy artifact is being engraved

I cancelled the first crest with 10% to go because we needed more time then re crested after you guys finalyl figured it out
(which im assuming is when someone logged in an InsomniaAlt toon)

3. lastly. deus at the helm of inv
all the things that were needed for this plan to go off did all because of him
This plan is approx 6 months old but needed the right time to do it. It all fell into place quite nicely

We could ask the game designers what they thought about how the castle was taken but theyd probably just tell you
"well there are doors there...." I doubt theyd care much more than that

So the fact that there are breakable walls there means these "means" were most definitely considered
Seems everyone but inv leadership considered these "means" for a siege on aden

answer me this though
Who leaves an artifact room ungaurded? especially after the giran thing, figured everyone learned that lesson that day

gf
grats on going dusk this week

A week late going Dusk...would have been pretty easy to have taken Aden with Strife in effect...all it needed was some effort and that famous Invincible competitive spirit!

Where GMB was cautious and safe with his plans he made very few mistakes.

TL however is a crazy bastard. But its nice to see him as leader where he has in the background of inv for such a long time.

I agree i sometimes curse the hell out of him with his decisions, but at least he kept this game interesting now ;)

LOL, b and e'd goddard when no one was there and crested. That's hilarious. No really...it is. This is one of the reasons why you're not supposed to take too many castles, cause you spread yourself thin unless you have enough trustable allies. But grats, that's a genius plan, and perfectly legitimate.

LOL, b and e'd goddard when no one was there and crested. That's hilarious. No really...it is. This is one of the reasons why you're not supposed to take too many castles, cause you spread yourself thin unless you have enough trustable allies. But grats, that's a genius plan, and perfectly legitimate.

tbh I don't think anyone expected to keep em all...being honest I thought we would lose 2 of the 4 castles we owned which happened. From what I hear we were **** close to keeping Oren....cresting was interrupted only by siege ending. Sounded like Adenand Giran sieges were a blast...I missed em cuz I was away on holiday but hopefully the next ones can be as good.

Uhm. ANyone notice a difference in GMB's and Sandrons stratagies???

Invincible says GMB's was "brilliant" "Not a glith" "Amazing Plan"

Invincible says Sandrons was "Glitch" "Bug" "Exploit"

Gmb's Wyvern tactics have been taken out of the game and made illegal.

Sandrons Technique is still and will seemingly always be legal.

Funny how people choose to ignore that.

Gludio was pretty close to from what I understand ^^ Hurray for interesting sieges! :>

Gludio was pretty close to from what I understand ^^ Hurray for interesting sieges! :>

Yeah it sounded like the people involved had a blast.

So much trash talk oO

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almost like chaos allychat now ><

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I said you certainly didn't make it the way the game designers intended. Did you take down an outer wall? No. You used other means. I doubt those means were considered when they implemented seiges. Maybe they were. Maybe the designers thought one day someone from Chaos would consider doing this one thing so they could bypass the normal way of getting into a castle.

kay are you slow or just so enthralled in deus garbage that you dont see reason?

let me spell this out AGAIN

I had to break 2 doors
one of those doors is considered a outer gate

then i strolled into the throne room where there were no gaurds and walked into the artifact room where there were no gaurds and stood in there for probably 15 minutes while burning time

let me explain why this worked

1. dusk strife
doors were so weak that 2 sh could break down a outer gate
inv didnt feel fighting for dawn mattered (thanks)

2. Inv being dusk
relegated all of inv to attackers with one defender, the castle lord
Now seeing how it was an alt clan i had to bet that noone would even be on

So all the system messages were missed or else it wouldnt have worked
for example
1. The outer wall has been broken
2. The inner door has been broken
3. The holy artifact if being engraved
4. the holy artifact is being engraved

I cancelled the first crest with 10% to go because we needed more time then re crested after you guys finalyl figured it out
(which im assuming is when someone logged in an InsomniaAlt toon)

3. lastly. deus at the helm of inv
all the things that were needed for this plan to go off did all because of him
This plan is approx 6 months old but needed the right time to do it. It all fell into place quite nicely

We could ask the game designers what they thought about how the castle was taken but theyd probably just tell you
"well there are doors there...." I doubt theyd care much more than that

So the fact that there are breakable walls there means these "means" were most definitely considered
Seems everyone but inv leadership considered these "means" for a siege on aden

answer me this though
Who leaves an artifact room ungaurded? especially after the giran thing, figured everyone learned that lesson that day

gf
grats on going dusk this week



Sandron our special forces hero !! :)

I dont need to say anything because sandron explains it all here :o

Lem3nt raises good points too :)

Invincible left Aden castle wide open, nice to see chaos capitalize on the oppitunity. Out numbered and they still won Aden :) . Wouldnt of happened if you all werent too busy trash talking at your flags. Yes I mean trash talking....... the silence after the siege was great to be honest.

I was very happy to be apart of it :)

almost like chaos allychat now ><

OMG it's Rooks!
OMG it's Ali!!

Yeah...you're right Rooks. ;)

OMG its ****.


Ali > all of you.

<3 Ali

:(

To know **** is to <3 her.

You obviously don't know me. Sadness.

(hijacked)

Oh i know ya.

I just <3 ali more =o

and Skit

Skit + Ali + Me.

Trio thx

Skit?

Now that's just crazy talk.

;)

Her asian cuteness turns me on.

JUST WAIT UNTIL OLO GETS BACK FROM HOLIDAYS AND RECLAIMS THESE FORUMS

;)

ali is too old for u...
sorry rik...
and yeah chaos allychat 4 t w

Okay, y'all (yes, I said y'all) are having too much fun here.

None of that now.

Um...

<looks at note cards>

Inv sucks.
Chaos sucks.
RisingBlades = teh pwn.

That's all, I think. Now pardon me as I get back to enjoying the beauty that is Hawaii.