How Invin works? We want to fight Chaos. That's our goal.
But the problem is.....all the "neutrals" are basically fodder who are in the way. So each time we first have to break the weaker players who are between us and Chaos. That would be RisingBlades, Chosen, etc.
But the problem is.....all the "neutrals" are basically fodder who are in the way.
Kinda out of context but that's ok. Lets wait for DH to pounce on this one. Let me be honest with you guys though. I was in clans and alliances that Chaos (under a different name) used as fodder. I fought the evil invincible with them and all it got me was killed. If we stood up the them we were killed for being invincible supporters. Have fun.
Kinda out of context but that's ok. Lets wait for DH to pounce on this one. Let me be honest with you guys though. I was in clans and alliances that Chaos (under a different name) used as fodder. I fought the evil invincible with them and all it got me was killed. If we stood up the them we were killed for being invincible supporters. Have fun.
How Invin works? We want to fight Chaos. That's our goal.
But the problem is.....all the "neutrals" are basically fodder who are in the way. So each time we first have to break the weaker players who are between us and Chaos. That would be RisingBlades, Chosen, etc.
As a "potential fodder" (sadly, I am too low to BE fodder) I'd like to ask the really important question (from the "fodder" point of view):
who would be the Alliance below Invincible/Chaos/Mirage that is 1) largest, 2) nastiest, 3) crookedest (?is that a word?), 4) most disgusted with Inv/Chaos/Mirage drama?
Hopefully there is a single alliance that is all of those things. That's the alliance for the 'fodder'!
A days a long time in Lineage, particularly when your on holidays. This thread is old news now and needs to be read in the context of the entire "RisingBlades" thread on www.l2invincible.com (http://www.l2invincible.com)
Bring on PTS.
Kinda out of context but that's ok. Lets wait for DH to pounce on this one. Let me be honest with you guys though. I was in clans and alliances that Chaos (under a different name) used as fodder. I fought the evil invincible with them and all it got me was killed. If we stood up the them we were killed for being invincible supporters. Have fun.
Kinda out of context but that's ok. Lets wait for DH to pounce on this one. Let me be honest with you guys though. I was in clans and alliances that Chaos (under a different name) used as fodder. I fought the evil invincible with them and all it got me was killed. If we stood up the them we were killed for being invincible supporters. Have fun.
Kinda out of context but that's ok. Lets wait for DH to pounce on this one. Let me be honest with you guys though. I was in clans and alliances that Chaos (under a different name) used as fodder. I fought the evil invincible with them and all it got me was killed. If we stood up the them we were killed for being invincible supporters. Have fun.
No i'm sure you don't.
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...Sorry, what was this topic about? ^^
A days a long time in Lineage, particularly when your on holidays. This thread is old news now and needs to be read in the context of the entire "RisingBlades" thread on www.l2invincible.com (http://www.l2invincible.com)
Bring on PTS.
To say that Inv is unique in killing off neutrals is ridiculous. The Evo-Nirvana thing stands out pretty well and before someone starts with the "Chaos is not Evo" nonsense just look at your alliance, you're not wholly the same and not wholly different, spare the BS.
Nirvana helped Inv kill Antharas and Czarr PvPed some Evo people (WOMG PVP RLY?)
the Evo-Nirvana situation is nothing like the Chaos-RB situation.
i think what Kiroth refers to all the time (regarding Chaos killing neutrals) is the bandits fiasco with Noob - he holds a grudge - but i recall being attacked by his Noob clannies at Bandits that day so i fought back. if anything, i'd say INV manipulated them very well - so much so that they were absorbed into INV.
sorry Kiroth, but Chaos doesn't kill neutrals. i don't kill neutrals and never have. i don't grief. it is why i started fighting INV when i did a long time ago.
but we all need a reason to fight. you have yours, and my opinion on how misguided it is is irrelevant so HF and see u in-game.
the Evo-Nirvana situation is nothing like the Chaos-RB situation.
i think what Kiroth refers to all the time (regarding Chaos killing neutrals) is the bandits fiasco with Noob - he holds a grudge - but i recall being attacked by his Noob clannies at Bandits that day so i fought back. if anything, i'd say INV manipulated them very well - so much so that they were absorbed into INV.
sorry Kiroth, but Chaos doesn't kill neutrals. i don't kill neutrals and never have. i don't grief. it is why i started fighting INV when i did a long time ago.
but we all need a reason to fight. you have yours, and my opinion on how misguided it is is irrelevant so HF and see u in-game.
the Evo-Nirvana situation is nothing like the Chaos-RB situation.
i think what Kiroth refers to all the time (regarding Chaos killing neutrals) is the bandits fiasco with Noob - he holds a grudge - but i recall being attacked by his Noob clannies at Bandits that day so i fought back. if anything, i'd say INV manipulated them very well - so much so that they were absorbed into INV.
sorry Kiroth, but Chaos doesn't kill neutrals. i don't kill neutrals and never have. i don't grief. it is why i started fighting INV when i did a long time ago.
but we all need a reason to fight. you have yours, and my opinion on how misguided it is is irrelevant so HF and see u in-game.
the Evo-Nirvana situation is nothing like the Chaos-RB situation.
i think what Kiroth refers to all the time (regarding Chaos killing
neutrals) is the bandits fiasco with Noob - he holds a grudge -
but i recall being attacked by his Noob clannies at Bandits that day so i fought back. if anything, i'd say INV manipulated them very well - so much so that they were absorbed into INV.
sorry Kiroth, but Chaos doesn't kill neutrals. i don't kill neutrals and never have. i don't grief. it is why i started fighting INV when i did a long time ago.
but we all need a reason to fight. you have yours, and my opinion on how misguided it is is irrelevant so HF and see u in-game.
the Evo-Nirvana situation is nothing like the Chaos-RB situation.
i think what Kiroth refers to all the time (regarding Chaos killing
neutrals) is the bandits fiasco with Noob - he holds a grudge -
but i recall being attacked by his Noob clannies at Bandits that day so i fought back. if anything, i'd say INV manipulated them very well - so much so that they were absorbed into INV.
sorry Kiroth, but Chaos doesn't kill neutrals. i don't kill neutrals and never have. i don't grief. it is why i started fighting INV when i did a long time ago.
but we all need a reason to fight. you have yours, and my opinion on how misguided it is is irrelevant so HF and see u in-game.
This whole situation is frankly ******ed.
If TL is as big an idiot as everyone says he is I wonder why so many people put so much effort into dissecting every word he types.
That comment can be taken to mean a million things out of context. TL was referring to the constant practice on this server of two major sides conflicting with each other and maneuvering neutral clans to be used as meatshields, distractions, fodder, what have you.
If you (neutrals) honestly have a problem with being called fodder take an objective look at the situation. You are considerably weaker than either of the two sides. That is obvious. You don't play the game at the same level. Both sides see neutrals the same way. A potential leg up on the other side, a tool to be used in the constant conflict -- fodder.
Occasionally a neutral clan/ally garners enough respect to be taken as an almost-equal partner and gets to eat the scraps from whatever bigger force's plate. Occasionally they just end up being absorbed into the larger body. This is the same for both sides.
To say that Inv is unique in killing off neutrals is ridiculous. The Evo-Nirvana thing stands out pretty well and before someone starts with the "Chaos is not Evo" nonsense just look at your alliance, you're not wholly the same and not wholly different, spare the BS.
The major difference there is that Nirvana people didn't start a million threads worth of drama over it even after losing a castle and watching the ally dissolve as a result. RB is frankly ridiculous in their reaction to the situation. They want to play it both ways, [censored] and whine and call Inv unfair for killing them, and at the same time talk more smack at them which honestly in a PvP *game* is all the justification needed for killing someone.
Honestly RB should just play it the way Nirvana did, accept the fact that they helped one side which ****** off the other, take their deaths with some class and dignity (befitting an alliance worth giving a crap about) and not the typical crying/blustering newb stuff. If they can't take it let their carebears leave and be neutral, and let the people who want to pvp join Chaos, its ultimately healthier for the 2-sided conflict style of this server, and more fun than whining about it on forums.
Seriously Marcus you fail for even making this thread, bad form.
particularly seeing they braindumped after I said that my opinion had changed and they should read the entire Inv thread to get the full context.
Look. For most of us at RB, its not about getting killed by inv for a choice that we made. Because we are fine with that, it will pass eventually. But what we arent fine with... which so many of you apparently are putting your 2 cents in over something that is completely dumb and has nothing to do with the real arguement... Is the fact that our private personal forums were hacked by invincible members, and personal discussions between members were stollen and posted in public inv forums. Now, if you want to know the truth about that... That is illegal and against the law. If they want to be ignorant and think that it will land them cool points with their friends, go ahead.But, If they dont watch it, it could land them with a banned l2 account and maybe even jail if they ever decided to do that to someone who took it extremely serious. I can handle being pked because its just a game, and thats life. But on private forums, its not just about the game. We are like family, and things are discussed which arent game related, but very serious rl things. And it disgusts me, that now people have lost their trust and comfort in sharing things because of pricks like that. I hope one day, when you finally hit puberty, maybe even grow up and experience rl, that you will understand what your small childish action no matter what they are ig and in rl, could really effect people.