Well, orc and suport, look no farther then WC :cool:. Has all the good mele buffs, can take and dish out damage, some offencive spells as well, all 3 armor masteries and, as of C5 one of the fast sleep spells. The main drawback is that WC get all the buffs later then human and dark elven buffers, but our buffs work at a whole party at once so in large parties we are more mana eficient then profets.
Dark elf suport is also good, they are good for both mages and mele's. SE's also got some heals and recharges (spells to restore mana).
For mele fighter, I dont know, they are all different.. So may be you should start asking about specific classes.
Well, I like a melee class that can do alot of damage. Maybe something that dual weilds or uses 2Handers. Not too into kinght types that use shields. I figure with a buffer around all the time I should be fine. So, I need to figure out what a good melee class would be.
Maybe something that dual weilds or uses 2Handers. Not too into kinght types that use shields..
The only dual vielder in DE and orcs is blade dancer (darc elf). They are warior buffer hybrid.
The one with twohanders is ork destroyer. They got masteries for twohanded wearpons, swords, blunts and polearms. They got some strong emergency skills (can use when at 30%hp), strong attak skills, but they are slow and lack mdef, so they are weak against ranged clases and mages.
Why dint you looked at dagers? They got good damage output, and in C5 which is due in a month or so dagers will get boosted as well.
Or tyrants, fast ran speed, fast attack speed, attack skills and bunch of totems (sellfbuffs) with warious effects.
I figure with a buffer around all the time I should be fine. So, I need to figure out what a good melee class would be
As a WC i tryed duos with SK, tyrant, dager and destro and a bd.
SK was easiest, got leackes and hate as crowd control.
Tyrant, that guy hits like a freaking mashine gun, i was realy impressed. Have one on test server now, and also liking it.
BD, prety good also, but i knew that before, so wasnt surprised.
Dagers, good.
Destr, good normaly, with emergency skills turns ubber, too bad they dont last too long, but recharge long..
Well, that is what Im trying to find out...I dont mind any type of melee class and my GF can play a support character, healer, mage, archer or whatever.
I just want to get the best combination of two classes possible. Thanks for the insight.....still not sure yet.
A bladedancer and a shillien elder, when both are equipped for melee, make a combination that is not only stylish but also efficient and thought after in groups if you should ever want one.
If you want Orc melle go destroyer and for the support SE, you can make up for the no haste2 with greater swift attack pots and the SE's buffs along with heals will make it easy to lvl. With VR and heals you can aoe with the polearm to make for fast lvling
I have to say so far the best duo with melee and distant support is a treasure hunter (human dagger)and a SE.
The TH does fast damage and hits very hard with its dagger strikes and also has high hp for a rouge class due to the high human con and a se is the most universal healer/buffer in the game and gives vr which is very important to a melee fighter.
Well, I like a melee class that can do alot of damage. Maybe something that dual weilds or uses 2Handers. Not too into kinght types that use shields. I figure with a buffer around all the time I should be fine. So, I need to figure out what a good melee class would be.
Make a Orc Tyrant it uses dual fist weapons.
Then have your girlfriend make a SE(Dark Elf Healer/Support Class)
My Duo is a Destroyer and Bishop. No elves to contend with lol j/k
Destroyer, great melee, 2 handed swords (or blunts in C5) and polearm masteries. If you have healer with you, which you will, you will blast through yellow and pink mobs no problem.
As a healer to duo it is hard to pick. Each have great traits and each are different. SE is nice with heals and VR. Also gets purify later on which is a nice advantage. Best healer of all is the Bishop but you give up critical buffs like VR and haste. Prophet is a great buffer but no heals after 40.
Destroyer with a SE seems to be a great choice. Go green and always be keen....lol
But if I make a Dark Elf and a Human....aren't they enemies??? Wont I accidentally attacke him and vice versa??
No to attack white players (those who are not in pvp mood) you have to hold control on your's keyboard or be in some area with free pvp, like arena.
The most of the "enimines" is that light elf can't take almost no quest in dark elf area, and wise versa, and they can't use scroll of escape in oposite race teritory. And light and dark elves can't take subclasses from each other's races.
Hi, me and my girlfriend are going to play but we dont know what the best duo would be for us to lvl and survive in PvP.
We like the Orcs and the Dark Elves the most and I prefer melee fighting and she is more suited to support or ranged.
Is there any good combinations you can recommend?
Thanks
Your style preferences will determine "The Best" duo.
For her...An S. Elder pretty much goes well with everything, and you reap the benefits as early as level 20 when you get Might 2, Rez and Wind Walk. By level 25 you'll have access to Focus and Empower. By level 30, the SE gets Vamp. Rage, Recharge and another level of Wind Walk. After the second class change, the SE gets many other bread and butter spells like Guidance, Death Whisper, Purify, Wild Magic, etc., etc., which makes them the perfect choice for both melee and mage types.
For you...I've always been in favor of classes that move and kill quickly. If you want an Orc, go Tyrant. If you want a DE, choose either Blade Dancer or Abyss Walker. If you want Human, Treasure Hunter is a good choice. If you want [Light] Elf, a Plainswalker isn't that bad either.
I've intentionally left off archer classes, but if you want to play one, you can't go wrong there either. All of the archer classes are good.
If you plan on duoing and wanna play togeather and want melee I would sugest an orc. WarCryers are one of the best buffers, but they don't really have good heals. Anyway then you could go Destroyer or Tyrant.
Or you could go dagger. You could go Dark Elf dagger and she could be a Shillen Elder. She has Vampiric Rage which will help a lot in pve, and she has heals too.
For archer classes i prefer duoing with prophet since they have haste. But SE and Archer class work great too assuming u also have a dagger on you. With VR u should have no problem duoing with a archer using just a dagger(top grade prefer) from lvl 1-52. If u have the adena to spare get some greater haste pots it will make lvling alot easier and quicker.
Best duo is magicians team...
for me... SH+Necro with self buffs after 60lvl both they have:
2 nukers & 1 tank...
SH chaotic dmg! Necro good Cspeed,Matk and his summon!
these 3 can beat all tanks, also versus all nukers duo because nukers have to sleep 3 oporments so SH+Necro with silence+gloom is best against tanks-nukers.
A very good duo is 2 archers too... (stun, double shot,run,stun....).
But WC&BD in good lvl is also very good team...
I believe LUCK is everything!
if sleep,stun failled (many if)
then 2 dwarfs could beat 2 archers or 2 nukers...
all about LUCK and LAG....
THATS ALL from ME!!!
Well, for me the best duos were with a tyrant or a dager (I'm a WC). There are bunch of others that work good, but I havent realy tryed classes other then WC and BH, so I can't say which ith "the absolute best duo".
Also, my WL friend absolutly loves me, but not in duo, with a bish/ee at least, for duo he preferes a SE..
I, too, think a nuker and an SE are the best duo. But the OP mentioned an interest in melee types, which is why many of us didn't bother to mention the SH, SpS or Necros.
Hmm, I thought melee was powerful but I guess the Spell Howler and SE are more complimenting....
What about the Archer type, can they substitute for a SH or are they too weak in comparison......and lastly, why do ppl recommend daggers over sword dancers? they dual wield swords vice daggers, dont swords do more damage???
Dagers are damage dealers, they have faster attack speed, critical hit rate, bunch of pasives that add to damage and also skills to do masive damage in a hit. Bladedancers on other hand are more geaerd toward suport role. They got buffs, and relatively few attack skills, most of which are rasial and given to all DE fighters.
Dagers are damage dealers, they have faster attack speed, critical hit rate, bunch of pasives that add to damage and also skills to do masive damage in a hit. Bladedancers on other hand are more geaerd toward suport role. They got buffs, and relatively few attack skills, most of which are rasial and given to all DE fighters.
those dances alone make bd's one of the best DD toons in game
What about the Archer type, can they substitute for a SH or are they too weak in comparison...
All of the archer classes are good toons to play. They can be more expensive classes to play than tanks and such when you calculate the cost of ss and arrows. Most archers start off as dagger wielding rogues or assassins. I didn't actually use a bow on my HE until I was almost B grade.
lastly, why do ppl recommend daggers over sword dancers? they dual wield swords vice daggers, dont swords do more damage???
The key to most non-mage types is critical power, attack speed and strength, and daggers have that aplenty, which is why quite a few ppl favor them.
Blade Dancers, though, shouldn't be underestimated. You will find groups with a BD as where a Dagger may not. If setup properly a BD with it's dances and racial debuffs can kill quickly, too.
Finally keep in mind that dual swords deliver about half the damage with each strike. Basically every two swings with a dual sword constitutes one hit. So instead of hitting once for 600 damage, you'll hit first for 299 and then a second time for 301.
and dont daggers spit their damage too then, like dual wielding swords?
No, dager is in one hand, so damage is given once, but since duals, or dual fists (wearpon for tyrants) has a part of it in each hand you get spamed by double amount of hit messages.
Dagers is some class that vields dagers. Human rogue, elf scour or dark elf assasins are dagers. Well, actualy they are dager and archer hybrids, but at lvl 40 they will have a choice to evolve into a pure dager (no mone bow skills learned), or a pure archer (no more dager skills learned). They are damage dealer classes, they have high damage output, but low defence.
Tank is a knight type character, they usualy wear sword and shield, some wear blunt wearpon (axe or mace) and shield. They are defencive classes, they have low damage output but high defence and skills to force monsters to attack them, instead of others.