Got a bit bored of my main, not sure if its the class or if its due to 50-51 taking so incredibly much more time than any other levels so far and me getting a bit bored in general (i dont use shots so i get like 5% xp an hour)
Anyways, was thinking of rerolling, wether or not just an alt or main-swap i dont know, but i was thinking of spellhowler and have a few questions
1. can you SOLO with spellhowler ? (no, having a SE in tow is not soloing, despite it only being 1 human player involved)
2. does SHs get teams ?
3. is a buffbot required to have any decent leveling ? (ie SE -> empower)
4. do you need to use shots while soloing ?
1.) They solo really well because they have strong skills & once you get BTM you can solo even longer then most nuker classes.
2.) SH is a nuker class & a lot of raids need mostly nuker classes even right up to the high raid bosses. So yes.
3.) buff bot is not required but it doesn't hurt. A SH doesn't need a lot of buffs, but if your lucky to find a SE in town that will give you empower it can't hurt.
4.) Shots will help the SH increase chance of a faster death to the mob. So you don't have to use them, but they will help you kill things faster. :D
As a solo class, especially one in ROBES who spends a considerable amount of time with TEN HP, you need to spam BSPS. But never fear, you will still earn way more money than party classes due to quests and not having to split drops etc.
Spell Howlers will only get nuker groups, which dependant on server I guess are quite rare, or were when I last played. As a SH you are going to be soloing 99% of the time.
I dont really play MMOs to solo, but i always somehow end up soloing, im really lazy looking for teams and after 2 years of anarchy online where each team meant a 2-3 hour LFG session on the hangout spot, im never going to spend time LFGing again, so i prefer to play classes that are self sufficient
I also like playing classes that can team, for example WC, good solo and wanted in teams (they say) but maybe im just fooling myself. I have actually never teamed with my main, a 51 WC
Got a bit bored of my main, not sure if its the class or if its due to 50-51 taking so incredibly much more time than any other levels so far and me getting a bit bored in general (i dont use shots so i get like 5% xp an hour)
You have yet to feel the true power of the Grind! You should get more than 5% XP an hour at 50 – 51. Even as a WC.
1. can you SOLO with spellhowler ?
Yes. SH are one of the better classes for soloing.
2. does SHs get teams ?
They do get groups, but you typically earn XP faster by soloing.
3. is a buffbot required to have any decent leveling ? (ie SE -> empower)
No, you don’t need a buffbot. If all you want is Empower and recharges, you can find an SE almost any time of the day, if you want to duo.
4. do you need to use shots while soloing ?
If you want to maximize XP and be more mana efficient. Spiritshots increase spellcasting speed and damage. Use them if income is not a concern.
my not stupid friend....
SH has the biggest DMG power in the GAME!!!
so... if u have a good Cspeed, no perfect but good and u have the chaotic MATK of a SH u can kill all mobs +5 lvl from your lvl with 3 hits, +2/+3 with 2hits.
If u use DeathSpike+BTM u wont have mp problems...
Also if u use Curse death link all mobs +4.+5lvl from u, are 1 hit K O... (but because of the lvl of mobs u will have misses...!attack failed! )
but...
SH is the Faster Player for XP solo...
if u have buffer better for u.
(61lvl with som+DC 2xxxMATK)
The only problem I have found with my spellhowler is that the casting speed to too slow for pvp. As far as mobs go, your a killing machine. Wind spell and shadow flare for good over hits. If you can afford the cursed bone you can save mana. Cursed Death Link if you want to risk the failed attack.
Curse Death Link is like a doomsday spell. The lower your HP, the more damage it does.
But as mentioned, it does have a notorious failure rate. And given that it requires you to be contantly at less than half your max HP to be truly effective, you may find that using it voluntarily is more risk than you care to invite. I know some SH that swear by CDL and hunt with it religiously. I, on the other hand, never use the skill as a hunting style.
It has the same mana cost as a Hurricane, but is more mana efficient as long as you can one-shot mobs. It is immediately less efficient if you die, or have to cast an additional spell on the same mob because of failure. In C5 this will be further complicated by slower Sleep cast speed. I don't know anyone that hunts with CDL that doesn't also use Sleep occasionally.
But as mentioned, it does have a notorious failure rate. And given that it requires you to be contantly at less than half your max HP to be truly effective, you may find that using it voluntarily is more risk than you care to invite. I know some SH that swear by CDL and hunt with it religiously. I, on the other hand, never use the skill as a hunting style.
yeah, I only tried it once because many swore by it. Not really my style to walk around with dangerously low HP's, even if it does allow me to kill in one hit.
Try that in Forest of the Dead where those **** things will attack you through the hills.
Try that in Forest of the Dead where those **** things will attack you through the hills.
FoD always reminds me that I need a new graphics card. For some reason my vidcard doesn't load images as quickly in FoD as in other places, so it seems like I'm getting attacked by invisible mobs. The first time it happened it totally freaked me out. I want THAT weapon SA. :D
i forgot to ask, can SH manor ? I know its physically possible, like walk up to the mob, seed, then run away before you start to auto hit, the nuke it, but thats quite a hassle
well it could work if you kill enemies in 1 nuke i guess
i forgot to ask, can SH manor ? I know its physically possible, like walk up to the mob, seed, then run away before you start to auto hit, the nuke it, but thats quite a hassle
well it could work if you kill enemies in 1 nuke i guess
I wasn't giving him false information, I was telling him the truth LMAO do you have an SH? because I do and thats what I was going by my SH! :)
I played one up to 62, then stopped because it was boring. No, you cant play without shots, and no, you cant get random groups consistently. A level 4x anything doesnt show what the class is actually like.
i forgot to ask, can SH manor ? I know its physically possible, like walk up to the mob, seed, then run away before you start to auto hit, the nuke it, but thats quite a hassle
well it could work if you kill enemies in 1 nuke i guess
Use sleep after seeding.
Yes :)
But is it feasible ? wouldnt that make things take 3 times as long as if you didnt manor ?
edit: and sleep is a 10 second cast in C5 i seem to recall, which means sleep is completely useless now ?
um.. you will have to use no shots if you don't have the money to buy them in the first place. If you read my post I said to use shots, but he doesn't have to (meaning if he can't afford it) I also found from 20-40 it was easy finding raid groups, because people were alsways shouting for takns/healers & nukers. I went from 20-40 just from doing raid after raid.
Just because my sig says my SH is 40+ doesn't mean she's stil in her 40's, so people do forget to update them. :p
Any Spell Howler worth the title can. They make more money than melee classes, and we can afford to spam shots and then some. More Adena per mob in drops (2x BSPS = 500a? 4k drops from mobs = 3.5k Adena profit per mob), all the quests (Infernium Ore being a BIG one), and they get all drops from mobs, not split between groups.
They got it easy as money is concerned, as soon as they hit B grade.
You said they have it easy as soon as they hit BG, but a new player starting off making a DW then going SH doesn't have it as easy as it's said. When my Cleric was in a beginner clan I would see new members join & then quit because they complained so much about the pricing & how they can't kill as fast as everyone says a nuker can kill, because they couldn't afford SS. I'm just saying I didn't give false information from what I've seen, I told the OP he needs SS, but if he can't afford it, what r u going it do then? re-roll? You also have to remember they are forking out money for gear & equipment. For an SH what is more important once you hit 40? Robes, weapon, or SS? Especially if you don't have the money to get all of them at the same time.
Well, till 60ish you can sometimes use one bsps-spell (preferably shadow flare) and one non-bsps (better in reverse order). Especially with Demon set and/or Empower. Against weaker mobs only though. But it's a great way to save money after 40 till close to 60.
SHs solo pretty well. But after 64 I begun to find soloing (as in REAL solo, self buffed) very tedious and inefficient. Also you usually can't really one-shot stuff with CDL at higher levels - or rather you can, but only green mobs, only with empower. But that is not a big problem for me, as I usually only did CDL in parties when I felt safe or duos/trios that included a bishop anyway....
Any Spell Howler worth the title can. They make more money than melee classes, and we can afford to spam shots and then some. More Adena per mob in drops (2x BSPS = 500a? 4k drops from mobs = 3.5k Adena profit per mob), all the quests (Infernium Ore being a BIG one), and they get all drops from mobs, not split between groups.
They got it easy as money is concerned, as soon as they hit B grade.
SHs can kill mobs in 2 nukes that drops 4k adena ? :O
As for the money problem, i figured demons set + humonkulus/acumen after 40 and until A grade (well SoM + demon set) Those C items will cost me about 20 million, and i have about 40 million cash + maybe 25-30 million in assets in the bank
A DE Mage can wear a Devotion set (No Grade) until 40, then a Demon set (C Grade) right the way until he 60+(Thats why Foul and RedViper did). My human mage at level 31 can kill mobs in 1 hit and a slap from her staff, so a DE wizard can 1 hit kill them, thats one hit kill and a no SPS hit towards 40. If you cant make money from that, you dont deserve to be playing. But like you said, you can raid boss up to 40, but you aint gonna be making much cash like that, unless you organise the raids.
Used regular shots and hit mobs in three shots up to lvl 40 (when I started there were no blessed shots) After 40 I found that that didn’t work well so changed to Blessed shots and “2 shotting”.
I made a profit pre-40 but usually broke even after 40 unil I got to B grade. Now, I can hunt mobs in “Forest of the Dead” in 2 shots with emp 1. The shots are 365-375 each. The mobs drop adena from 1200-4000.
There are some green mobs there that you can hunt without buffs around early 70’s.
I don’t CDL because I feel the risk is too great. I hate dropping items, especially things like helmets. However, there are people who swear by it even if they do die a lot.
I think they use it in Forbidden Gate. In that way the money and xp really start to roll in, or so I’m told by friends.
There are some green mobs there that you can hunt without buffs around early 70’s.
I don’t CDL because I feel the risk is too great. I hate dropping items, especially things like helmets. However, there are people who swear by it even if they do die a lot.
I think they use it in Forbidden Gate. In that way the money and xp really start to roll in, or so I’m told by friends.
There are some green mobs there that you can hunt without buffs around early 70’s.
I don’t CDL because I feel the risk is too great. I hate dropping items, especially things like helmets. However, there are people who swear by it even if they do die a lot.
I think they use it in Forbidden Gate. In that way the money and xp really start to roll in, or so I’m told by friends.
they use CDL you mean ?
Yes, I have a few friends who use CDL even though they die a bit. One of the places I know they have used it is Forbidden gate.
Also Forsaken plains. Though I think you need to be in 60's for that. I can't really tell you as I used CDL once and got ganked from behind by a mob and dropped my earing.
the curse death link.... for this spell to be affective you have to have you health down below 300, so if you get a failed attack the mob has a good chance of killing you.
I LOVE CDL, Solo or party or even PVP. Its one of the best things you have going for you as a SH. Just remember to test the waters when using it.. make sure how many hits that mob will take with CDL and what lvl your HP was. I like keeping my HP as low as I can get it. One time I went to 0HP and my party thought I died. But I hit the Mob for like 2KDMG non-crt. and we are talking lvl 66+ MOBs in the new lands.. like the WOA either way. Never be scared to use all your abilities. Get a tank if you must as A meat shield to test it out. or only Test it in partys like someone else was saying they do. SH = One of the Funiest classes I have played. In any game
I LOVE CDL, Solo or party or even PVP. Its one of the best things you have going for you as a SH. Just remember to test the waters when using it.. make sure how many hits that mob will take with CDL and what lvl your HP was. I like keeping my HP as low as I can get it. One time I went to 0HP and my party thought I died. But I hit the Mob for like 2KDMG non-crt. and we are talking lvl 66+ MOBs in the new lands.. like the WOA either way. Never be scared to use all your abilities. Get a tank if you must as A meat shield to test it out. or only Test it in partys like someone else was saying they do. SH = One of the Funiest classes I have played. In any game
I would also just add, if you do do this, know the area. Again, Forest of the Dead has a lot of mobs that are "hidden" behind hills and valleys and trees yet can still "see" and target you.
Also, they can crit. I was hit for 1200 damage once. Never had that happen to me before by a FOTD mob!
The best time for me using CDL was on the Orc Supply Leaders near the Forbidden Gate. They are social and agro which made a challenge to stay alive, but the exp just rolled in and there is a quest for those mobs too.
The best time for me using CDL was on the Orc Supply Leaders near the Forbidden Gate. They are social and agro which made a challenge to stay alive, but the exp just rolled in and there is a quest for those mobs too.