How the hell is this possible? In light of exploits already found on the server, just this past maintenance, it highly possible that they found and patched an OE exploit. I think if thats so, they should remove ALL OE items that were indicated by said exploit.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
and seeing how there is only 1, what is the problem? Maybe if there was like 10 of them. But this being the first one to +10, what is the problem with that? It has to happen sometime. As long as people try, there will be the chance it happens.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
and seeing how there is only 1, what is the problem? Maybe if there was like 10 of them. But this being the first one to +10, what is the problem with that? It has to happen sometime. As long as people try, there will be the chance it happens.
Sure it can happen but people who know the exploit isn't dumb enough to start mass producing OE weapons and bring suspicion on themselves.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
prove it. Post a screenshot. People talk [Censored] on blah all the time. Most of it is just hot air. Also, why is there only just 1,if what you say is true? Shouldn't there be more since the percentage is supposedly 66% success rate?
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
the percentage is nowhere near 66% rate of success, but your clearly way too close minded to accept anythinng short of a response agreeing with you. The sad face my friend, is whoever oe'd it, just got extremly lucky....a friend of my went from 1-6 on an sov in one sitting, the only reason he stopped is because bgrade iss more expensive to blow up. its one thing to blow up 10 darkscreamers and get 2 to +10 thats only 70m and lets say all together someoone spends 100m trying to OE 10 darkscreamers gets 2 to +10 only spent 100m and just turned a (im not sure) 100m profit? its harder to OE 10 sov's and hope to get 2 to +10 cause lets say a LOW-BALL figure of 30m per SOV, 30m x 10 = 300m just on the swords, and lets go with another lowball of 1m per enchant.....thats another oh lets say 70m so who do you know that is willing to blow 370m in hopes of getting an sov or 2 to +10....if they were successful then they would turn a major profit, but it is too much money to invest with such a small chance of success. whereas 100m to blow up 10 dark screamers......yea...... its all about luck my friend...someone on your server got lucky so quit being jealous
oh and btw, on lionna we have a +9 Draconic Bow w/focus....and i think he might have recently gone +10....
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
And you could be blowing somke up the you know what. How in the world do I know your not making sh*t up? You tell me
the percentage is nowhere near 66% rate of success, but your clearly way too close minded to accept anythinng short of a response agreeing with you. The sad face my friend, is whoever oe'd it, just got extremly lucky....a friend of my went from 1-6 on an sov in one sitting, the only reason he stopped is because bgrade iss more expensive to blow up. its one thing to blow up 10 darkscreamers and get 2 to +10 thats only 70m and lets say all together someoone spends 100m trying to OE 10 darkscreamers gets 2 to +10 only spent 100m and just turned a (im not sure) 100m profit? its harder to OE 10 sov's and hope to get 2 to +10 cause lets say a LOW-BALL figure of 30m per SOV, 30m x 10 = 300m just on the swords, and lets go with another lowball of 1m per enchant.....thats another oh lets say 70m so who do you know that is willing to blow 370m in hopes of getting an sov or 2 to +10....if they were successful then they would turn a major profit, but it is too much money to invest with such a small chance of success. whereas 100m to blow up 10 dark screamers......yea...... its all about luck my friend...someone on your server got lucky so quit being jealous
oh and btw, on lionna we have a +9 Draconic Bow w/focus....and i think he might have recently gone +10....
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
lol sounds like you just have bad luck with OEing mage weapons and are jealous. But I think we all knew that from the start.
As to why people OE Dark screamers, and why you possibly think they are easier to OE. It's **** simple, Dark Screamers are available from the luxury shop, while Homu's are not. Therefore you grab a DS using C/D crystals bought cheap or from failed OE's and OE on the spot, if it makes it to the OE of your liking track mammon down.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
And you could be blowing somke up the you know what. How in the world do I know your not making sh*t up? You tell me
lol.
Yeah I've definately seen some high enchants for B grade on Hinde. Dark blue and red glows. Sorry but you just need to get over it.
I said MAGE weapons. I've also seen highly enchanted melee B and A as well. MAGE weapons are very different and a class of their own in trying to OE.
I know!@ There is an Evil cunning way to OE mage weapons, but melee simply go to +16 right away!!
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
lol sounds like you just have bad luck with OEing mage weapons and are jealous. But I think we all knew that from the start.
As to why people OE Dark screamers, and why you possibly think they are easier to OE. It's **** simple, Dark Screamers are available from the luxury shop, while Homu's are not. Therefore you grab a DS using C/D crystals bought cheap or from failed OE's and OE on the spot, if it makes it to the OE of your liking track mammon down.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
And you could be blowing somke up the you know what. How in the world do I know your not making sh*t up? You tell me
lol.
Yeah I've definately seen some high enchants for B grade on Hinde. Dark blue and red glows. Sorry but you just need to get over it.
I said MAGE weapons. I've also seen highly enchanted melee B and A as well. MAGE weapons are very different and a class of their own in trying to OE.
I know!@ There is an Evil cunning way to OE mage weapons, but melee simply go to +16 right away!!
can I have some of what your smoking? :eek:
Then explain to me why there is a disproportionate amount of highly enchanted melee B and A weapons compared to Mage B and A weapons past +8?
I mean since 1/2 the L2 population seem to be mages, why is it that there are not MORE mage enchanged A and B weapons past +8?
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
lol sounds like you just have bad luck with OEing mage weapons and are jealous. But I think we all knew that from the start.
As to why people OE Dark screamers, and why you possibly think they are easier to OE. It's **** simple, Dark Screamers are available from the luxury shop, while Homu's are not. Therefore you grab a DS using C/D crystals bought cheap or from failed OE's and OE on the spot, if it makes it to the OE of your liking track mammon down.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
And you could be blowing somke up the you know what. How in the world do I know your not making sh*t up? You tell me
lol.
Yeah I've definately seen some high enchants for B grade on Hinde. Dark blue and red glows. Sorry but you just need to get over it.
I said MAGE weapons. I've also seen highly enchanted melee B and A as well. MAGE weapons are very different and a class of their own in trying to OE.
I know!@ There is an Evil cunning way to OE mage weapons, but melee simply go to +16 right away!!
can I have some of what your smoking? :eek:
Then explain to me why there is a disproportionate amount of highly enchanted melee B and A weapons compared to Mage B and A weapons past +8?
I mean since 1/2 the L2 population seem to be mages, why is it that there are not MORE mage enchanged A and B weapons past +8?
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
lol sounds like you just have bad luck with OEing mage weapons and are jealous. But I think we all knew that from the start.
As to why people OE Dark screamers, and why you possibly think they are easier to OE. It's **** simple, Dark Screamers are available from the luxury shop, while Homu's are not. Therefore you grab a DS using C/D crystals bought cheap or from failed OE's and OE on the spot, if it makes it to the OE of your liking track mammon down.
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
lol from research or personal experience.
If from personal experience than that is a fairly dumb thing to say. I know one of my toons has yet to (out of 17 tries) make one single weapon past +5, while another has yet (out of 3 tries...I learned) to make anykind of weapon past +3.
I also know people have have gone 1-16 on one try.
Why is extraordinary luck so hard to believe?
We aren't talkign D or C grade here. We are talking B or A grade and A LOT of people have tried OEing B and A grade weapons. I find it suspect that through all this time no one has been able to create a mage weapon past +8 until only NOW.
who said I only do C and D lol. I have deep pockets thanks to playing the market ;)
And you could be blowing somke up the you know what. How in the world do I know your not making sh*t up? You tell me
lol.
Yeah I've definately seen some high enchants for B grade on Hinde. Dark blue and red glows. Sorry but you just need to get over it.
I said MAGE weapons. I've also seen highly enchanted melee B and A as well. MAGE weapons are very different and a class of their own in trying to OE.
I know!@ There is an Evil cunning way to OE mage weapons, but melee simply go to +16 right away!!
can I have some of what your smoking? :eek:
Then explain to me why there is a disproportionate amount of highly enchanted melee B and A weapons compared to Mage B and A weapons past +8?
I mean since 1/2 the L2 population seem to be mages, why is it that there are not MORE mage enchanged A and B weapons past +8?
And what exactly does that prove? Again there are more Mages then melees that play the game. Therefore there is much more demand for OE mage weapons A and B. Why isn't there more hmm?
And what exactly does that prove? Again there are more Mages then melees that play the game. Therefore there is much more demand for OE mage weapons A and B. Why isn't there more hmm?
um, bit dense?
Mage weapons are a greater cost because of the higher demand for them (more mages) so it is alot more cost to OE them, In B grade I could buy almost 2 Melee weapons to one Mage weapon, making it easier to buy several and OE until you get one high enough. A grade is the same, 2 melee for one mage weapon.
They are more expensive, so people tend not to chance blowing them up as much. Is it that hard to understand? I mean Eliky already explained it pretty well
(Sorry Eliky, had to take another shot at reason, not trying to steal your material :P )
Yeah I've definately seen some high enchants for B grade on Hinde. Dark blue and red glows. Sorry but you just need to get over it.
I said MAGE weapons. I've also seen highly enchanted melee B and A as well. MAGE weapons are very different and a class of their own in trying to OE.
I'm well aware of what you said. That is exactly what I was referring to. SOES and Valhalla.
Then you haven't made your point nor do you have one. Why is it then that there are not MORE OE'd Mage weapons that are over +8? Please, I and I'm sure a lot more people than I, would like to know. Whats the secret to OE Mage weapons hmm? SOV and SOES are not very expensive compared to some melee A grade items that have been OE'd past even +10. YET, I haven't seen a B grade mage weapon past +8.
The person who said they saw a +16 SOES, what are YOU smoking? Maybe you saw that on one of those non-official servers eh? LOL, people are posting from non-official servers all the time on blah and suffice it to say, there are a LOT of gullible people on blah.
And what exactly does that prove? Again there are more Mages then melees that play the game. Therefore there is much more demand for OE mage weapons A and B. Why isn't there more hmm?
um, bit dense?
Mage weapons are a greater cost because of the higher demand for them (more mages) so it is alot more cost to OE them, In B grade I could buy almost 2 Melee weapons to one Mage weapon, making it easier to buy several and OE until you get one high enough. A grade is the same, 2 melee for one mage weapon.
They are more expensive, so people tend not to chance blowing them up as much. Is it that hard to understand? I mean someone already said it...
dense you say? So how dens is it that you have totally glossed over the fact that B grade mage weapons are much more cheaper than A grade melee weapons and there are STILL A LOT MORE A grade OE'd Melee weapons past +8 than there will ever be Mage B grade weapons OE'd to past +8.
I'll hunt around town to find something for you. If mage weapons are so hard to enchant, how come there are all the OE homunks? I think most mages just lvl through grades so fast that they don't bother enchanting in favor of aiming at the next lvl of gear. Also many mages are FOTM rerolls that don't play the game for market/economy and thus don't get access to that kind of gear. With as expensive as mage gear tends to be (though on Hinde an SOM currently costs less than a DLE) most ebayers don't bother too much with them except in rare cases like the +7 SOM etc. They lvl beyond it so fast anyways, few care to bother that would have the capability to do so.
I'll hunt around town to find something for you. If mage weapons are so hard to enchant, how come there are all the OE homunks? I think most mages just lvl through grades so fast that they don't bother enchanting in favor of aiming at the next lvl of gear. Also many mages are FOTM rerolls that don't play the game for market/economy and thus don't get access to that kind of gear. With as expensive as mage gear tends to be (though on Hinde an SOM currently costs less than a DLE) most ebayers don't bother too much with them except in rare cases like the +7 SOM etc.
I explained before, homus are not OE'd as Homus. Most are OE'd as Dark Screamers and then after they are OE'd to the extreme they are swapped out for Homus at the Blacksmith of Mammon. That's why when Blacksmith of Mammon first appeared in the game, it screwed up the economy pretty bad.
Before the Blacksmith it was rare to find a Homu past +8 (if there ever was one past +8), I think that was back in prelude and C1.
Like right now, if they suddently allowed B grade weapnos to be tradeable at the Blacksmith for other weapons, do you know how much of an influx of OE'd mage weapons that will suddenly appeared on the servers out of "thin" air? All the over +10BOP and other high grade, highly enchanged B grade weapons will suddenly become SOES or Sword of Valhallas. Thats what happened with Dark Screamers, Sage Staffs = Homus.
The reason you saw so many overenchanted Dark Screamers is because you can make Dark Screamers in the luxery shop, not to mention many people had Dark Screamers left over from their dagger classes.
Mage weapons aren't harder than other weapons to OE.
I explained before, homus are not OE'd as Homus. Most are OE'd as Dark Screamers
Because you buy the Dark Screamer from Luxury shop, you can't buy homunkulous from shop.
So if you're going to overenchant, why go through all the trouble of getting to mammon and exchanging the weapon BEFORE overenchanting.
Before the Blacksmith it was rare to find a Homu past +8 (if there ever was one past +8), I think that was back in prelude and C1.
Because noone in their right mind would overenchant a homunkulous back then, they were pretty useless and everyone went for top c grade.
All the over +10BOP and other high grade, highly enchanged B grade weapons will suddenly become SOES or Sword of Valhallas.
SoV isn't top b-grade. SoV is very hard to get and expensive, so people tend to not overenchant them. BOPs and AOBAs are really easy to make, the recipe being in abundance and so are the parts, so DUH of course they're overenchanted.
Oh yeah, and just for the record, all my highest enchants have all been on mage weapons as mage weapons.
Before the Blacksmith it was rare to find a Homu past +8 (if there ever was one past +8), I think that was back in prelude and C1.
Wouldn't that most likely be because back then there was no Acumen SA and nobody was interested in a Homunculus sword?
lol if you played back then, it was still uber since it looked *hot* and it was THE top mage weapon to get. Believe me it was in hot demand. Dont you remember that far back?
The reason you saw so many overenchanted Dark Screamers is because you can make Dark Screamers in the luxery shop, not to mention many people had Dark Screamers left over from their dagger classes.
Mage weapons aren't harder than other weapons to OE.
How exactly would you know? So you totally ignore the fact that OE'd melee weapnos waaaaay outnumber the OE'd Mage weapon on a totally exponential scale. Also you ignore the fact that 1/2 the population play mage classes...yet there are still more OE'd Melee weapons ..and when I mean OE'd I mean over +8 or even +10 for that matter.
Because its the easiest and cheapest way in most cases to make a homunkuloua, it only costs around 6 million depending on crystal prices.
So you totally ignore the fact that OE'd melee weapnos waaaaay outnumber the OE'd Mage weapon on a totally exponential scale.
Because melee classes have alot more reason to overenchant unless the mage PvP's alot. And healer classes and summoner classes generally don't have any great reason to overenchant their mage weapons either, they do however have a reason to overenchant their melee weapons.
Because you buy the Dark Screamer from Luxury shop, you can't buy homunkulous from shop.
Back then prices on game shops were MORE than prices from private shops so no, most people crafted their DS and Homus.
So if you're going to overenchant, why go through all the trouble of getting to mammon and exchanging the weapon BEFORE overenchanting.
Back then Mammon wasn't around and there were already MORE DS that were highly OE'd compared to Homus which rarely went past +6 or +7. +8 or above was unheard of. After they introduced Mammon most of those OE'd DS that were +10 and more instantly became Homus. This has always been the trend. Plus after the economy started to become over inflated and prices on shops were > than it was worth it to just buy from the shops, it was MORE of a boost to Overenchanters to OE DS since they didn't have to exchange it from Homus to DS to enchant it. If you missed the HUGE discussion on Melee vs Mage OE'd weapnos back then, the clear conclusion was that Melee weapons were much easier to OE than Mage as it is true to this very day.
Because noone in their right mind would overenchant a homunkulous back then, they were pretty useless and everyone went for top c grade.
LOL, were you playing "back then"? Useless? WTH are you talking about? It was THE hottest item back then because it was a "cool" 1-handed MAGE sword that you could equip a shield with! Adding Acumen sa to it was overkill and push the popularity of it over the edge.
SoV isn't top b-grade. SoV is very hard to get and expensive, so people tend to not overenchant them.
Are you serious? SoV are hard to get? Maybe it was hard to get because most people could care a **** about it until was it C3 or C4 that they added Acumen Sa to it? Now its relatively easy to get and inexpensive compared to A grade weapons. Most people go with SOV as an alternative...although with the influx economy, SOM seem to be blanketting the whole Mage weapons market.
BOPs and AOBAs are really easy to make, the recipe being in abundance and so are the parts, so DUH of course they're overenchanted.
LOL easy to make thats why +3bop w/cs cost over 50m on the Bartz market. yeah...very inexpensive to get. Baloney.
They are OE'd because it has been known to OE'd since they started Over Enchanting that Bows have the highest success rate of all weapons to overenchant. Before it was BOP, it was the Emi bow that was OE'd to death.
Oh yeah, and just for the record, all my highest enchants have all been on mage weapons as mage weapons.
yeah you talking maybe +5 or +6? Sure thats still not +8 or above is it?
Because its the easiest and cheapest way in most cases to make a homunkuloua, it only costs around 6 million depending on crystal prices.
So you totally ignore the fact that OE'd melee weapnos waaaaay outnumber the OE'd Mage weapon on a totally exponential scale.
Because melee classes have alot more reason to overenchant unless the mage PvP's alot. And healer classes and summoner classes generally don't have any great reason to overenchant their mage weapons either, they do however have a reason to overenchant their melee weapons.
Melee weapons are also generally easier to get.
Are you serious? hat is the most ignorant statement I have ever read from anyone? Melees have a lot more reason to OE than Mages? LOL, hilarious.
OE weapons for mages mean A LOT MORE than OE'd weapons for melee. More OE Mage weapons = more mana attack = greater PvE and leveling ability = more lethal in PvP per spell. That my friend is directly performance enhancement, waay moreso than for melees.
Necros use Homunkulus swords for a reason. For the fast cast and the m. attack which gives them more power to kill, more effectiveness in the spells they cast as well. Same for Healers since more mana attack affects the amount they heal and how effective their casts like sleep and root are. As far as I could tell, most necros and healers I've seen, met and played with in the game use mage weapons. Unless you call crystal staff a melee weapon or a homunkulus as a melee sword weapon?
And who said melee weapons are "easier" to get? LOL I see more people selling SOM than any other weapon on the market. Like I said before A LOT of players are mages. That fact alone directly translate into MORE DEMAND for Mage weapons. Therefore Mage weapons are EASIER to get than melee weapons.
Back then prices on game shops were MORE than prices from private shops so no, most people crafted their DS and Homus.
Uhm, no. Back then Homunkulous parts were hard to get and there was little reason to craft them.
Back then Mammon wasn't around and there were already MORE DS
Because daggers were the FOTM class, and given the cheap crystals, DS were REALLY easy to get, heck you could make those in the luxury shop for a couple of millions.
After they introduced Mammon most of those OE'd DS that were +10 and more instantly became Homus. This has always been the trend.
Because daggers were no longer the FOTM class and Homunkulous now had Acumen SA, which made it VERY valuable to mages.
LOL, were you playing "back then"? Useless? WTH are you talking about? It was THE hottest item back then because it was a "cool" 1-handed MAGE sword that you could equip a shield with! Adding Acumen sa to it was overkill and push the popularity of it over the edge.
LOL, it wasn't the hottest thing back then. Yes, some people went for Sword of Whispering Death and Homunkulous because of the "coolness" factor, but generally the staffs were pretty much superior in every respect.
Are you serious? SoV are hard to get? Maybe it was hard to get because most people could care a **** about it until was it C3 or C4 that they added Acumen Sa to it? Now its relatively easy to get and inexpensive compared to A grade weapons. Most people go with SOV as an alternative...although with the influx economy, SOM seem to be blanketting the whole Mage weapons market.
They're hard to get because the recipe is very rare, it doesn't spoil and it only drops at a 1 in 5000+ rate. Just the recipe alone can easily sell for 30+ million these days, heck I sold my recipe for 22 million in a BUY shop many month ago. SoVs can easily cost close to an a-grade weapon.
LOL easy to make thats why +3bop w/cs cost over 50m on the Bartz market. yeah...very inexpensive to get. Baloney.
They are OE'd because it has been known to OE'd since they started Over Enchanting that Bows have the highest success rate of all weapons to overenchant. Before it was BOP, it was the Emi bow that was OE'd to death.
The emi bow was OD'ed to death because they were relatively easy to make, you can spoil the bow shafts in great numbers.
Not sure why your BOPs cost that much, but they were overenchanted generally for PvP and for the l33t people who ebayed alot to get the edge over the other guy.
You are aware of that BOP shafts spoil of many different mobs, right?
You are aware of that BOP recipes spoil at high rate in Antharas Lair, right?
Mages didn't bother overenchanting their mage weapons because there really wasn't anything super good until the SoV was added, but still I see +8 and more SOES around.
Before the Blacksmith it was rare to find a Homu past +8 (if there ever was one past +8), I think that was back in prelude and C1.
Wouldn't that most likely be because back then there was no Acumen SA and nobody was interested in a Homunculus sword?
lol if you played back then, it was still uber since it looked *hot* and it was THE top mage weapon to get. Believe me it was in hot demand. Dont you remember that far back?
Guess it depends a bit on who you played with. Most nukers I knew back then preferred a top C staff for matk, and later in B grade they all went for a SoeS. Only a few had a one-handed mage weapon plus shield, and then it was a SoWD (which IMHO looks better than a Homu anyway).
Same for Healers since more mana attack affects the amount they heal and how effective their casts like sleep and root are.
LOL, this has already been shown to be blantantly false, more m.atk. doesn't add any significant healing, in fact healing with a no-grade weapon and BSpS is better than an A-grade without BSpS.
And it makes very little difference for Root and Sleep too.
As far as I could tell, most necros and healers I've seen, met and played with in the game use mage weapons.
6 Valhalla gone +7 without any problem (one broke trying +7, others trying +10)
4 Staff of Life -> +10 (one of them broke at +15, others are sold at +10)
1 SOES up to +9 without any problems
8 Mithril Daffer crashed going +5
4 BoP crashed going +4
A friend of me got it really hard with Duals...
27 Duals (11 D-Grade, 12 C-Grade, 4 B-Grade) crashed going +4
There was never an enchant higher than +3 that was done on his own.
Tough luck, huh?
Go figure, It doesn't matter what kind of wepon will be OE'd it's just the personal factor that counts in here...
Thanks to "large tests" conducted on private servers, people actually are firmly convinced that the OEing for mage weapos is harder, so they're much less likely to try - forgetting that the whole enchant system was 100% revamped since then.
Of course there are also the reasons mentioned above, and the fact an OEd weapon benefits a mage less than a melee due to the weapon's MAtk only factoring into final damage as a squareroot.
PS: MAtk adds to healing, so I can't stand people claiming it's not the case - but yeah, it's flimsy as all helll, its positives impact is comparable to the negative impact on MEN unless you're talking about the ******edly massive extra bonuses provided by BSpS.
PPS: The homu is so ugly that I'm staying un-SAed until I can get a C5 sword or a valhalla! Nobody would go for that for looks, I hope. SoWD all the way. ^_^ Besides, mages look sorta cool with staves anyway, right? Shame that it's so impractical.
Thanks to "large tests" conducted on private servers, people actually are firmly convinced that the OEing for mage weapos is harder, so they're much less likely to try - forgetting that the whole enchant system was 100% revamped since then.
That was also later found as an error in the private server makeup.
PS: MAtk adds to healing, so I can't stand people claiming it's not the case
Yes, but the amount is really insignificant. We're talking maybe a couple of extra points out of 600-1000+ heal per 100 m.atk or something crazy like that.
:( Thus the rest of that PS! I compare it to MEN because I didn't notice a difference after removing +5INT/-5MEN from my ES, which must mean I was healing for about as much less as I was regaining more MP to heal with ... or something like that.
Either way, we all agree that it's not something to risk your weapon over - neither are sleep and root with their ridiculous land-rates pre-C5 on both mobs (almost always) and people with aegis (almost never), nor will they be with nerfed shield.
BSpS honestly fills the spot for MAtk needed for heals and debuffs quite well. The only case where a weapon upgrade helped me more was when I ralised that BSpS with a low no grade weapon were not actually better than no BSpS with a top C Grade - but that's not the kind of jump you make by overenchanting, is it?
I compare it to MEN because I didn't notice a difference after removing +5INT/-5MEN from my ES, which must mean I was healing for about as much less as I was regaining more MP to heal with ... or something like that.
More than likely you didn't get any change in either, your regeneration rate most likely didn't change and your heals only changed by a couple of points.
I don't doubt that at all. It was totally minimal - the tattoo would have gotten right back on if I felt it was somehow messing up my healing power, because AoEing means lots of time where burst healing is needed. My life is more important than a lack of grass stains on the back of my robes. :p
He has a better weapon then me, wahhhhh. Take his away, it isnt fair.
er if you actually try to OE a mage weapon you'll know that its practially impossible to get past +8 over B grade. Seeing a +10 is very extraordinary..something that is definitely worth investigating
there is a +10 SoV on devianne and someone had a red SoES i forget i think it was on erica.
Honestly where do you people pull your facts from?
wondering the same thing lol.
But, so far in 4 chronicles there has NEVER been a B grade mage weapon past +8 or I have never heard or seen of 1 and I have looked very hard. No one so far has ever been able to produce a B grade or higher Mage weapon past +8 until now. Sounds pretty **** suspicious to me.
look, it's not that hard, there is a 60%* chance it will succeed, OE is about luck. You seem to think it is some feat of skill or evil cunning. It is a simple game of luck. You don't go chasing after anyone who wins the lotto screaming "H4X!!!!!!!1!!" do you?
Some SOB's just get lucky, some have alot of money to keep trying, and some are just crazy as hell.
*(most agree on 60-66% so we'll go there)
AGAIN, why the hell ais there only 1 on the server then? People have been OE a very long time. There are over 10 or so +16 Homonkulus Sword on BARTZ alone. Simply because its easier to OE Dark Screamers and exchange them at Mammon. People KNOW that mage weapons are harder to OE. If you TRIED OE, you'd know that for a fact.
B and A grade weapons cannot be traded at Mammon. There is only *1* of these so called mage weapons that people have thus mentioned so far, only heresay since no one can provide an actual screenshot.
Again in 4 chronicles this is the first time I have ever seen a +10 SOM. The last one I had seen that was pretty high was +7. NO ONE has been able to get past the +8 mark. don't tell me this isn't suspicious. It doesn't "suddnely" happen. If people keep OEing someone somewhere, couple of people in fact with a chance of 66% success wil have made a SOM past +8. MORE than just 1. Its funny that I only see 1 on the server and also why is the supposed +10 Valhalla and supposed +16SOES just 1 of its kind? Why is there no +9Valhalla, or +9-+15SOES? Everything in the middle? The more the supply the more you have the in between OE weapons...there is only the extremes. This IS suspect.
In fact you sound very butthurt!
Lets do some math here, on Gustin a SoM goes for 80~90 Mil. A Weapon Enchants go for 13~15 Mil.
Even if someone was to try OEing an SoM to +10, thats an investment of 210 - 230 Mil. This is including the fact that there is no SA on the weapon, on Gustin an SA Crystal would go for 70~90 Mil. So now our Grand Total is up to 280~300Mil to make a +10 SoM.
Dosen't take a rocket scientist to figure out why there isnt that many +10 SoM's or even Mage Weapons in General.
As for Valhalla's, i have heard they are a hard weapon to OE, yet even then. On Gustin they are going for about 50mil. B-Weapon Enchants are going for 2~2.5mil. Means making a +10 Valhalla straight out is at least 70~75 Mil, and thats if your Lucky enough to get it first try.
The fact that your arguing on such a low enchant (+8 - +10) being something that should be investigated is mildly amusing, i mean C4 has only been out for months, and the first +10 SoM Surfaces right before C5, and your crying bloody Murder.
Lay off the Crack pipe good sir, your quite the good conspiricy theorist!
Why is there only one? You just said yourself that it is nearly impossible to do! The guy got lucky, get over it. Just because they were successful doen't mean it was due to an exploit.
Oh, also, fancy another calculation? While rising weapons are less important for mages, bridging grades is easier for them!
Let's do the number dance.
A homunkulus sword +4 (116) is better than a clean top C staff (111).
A homunkulus sword +5 (122) is equal to a clean low B staff or SoV (122).
A homunkulus sword +7 (134) is better than a clean SoES (132).
A homunkulus sword +9 (146) is better than a clean Dasparion's Staff (143).
A homunkulus sword +10 (152) is equal to a clean SoM or BoMT (152).
A homunkulus sword +14 (176) is better than a clean arcana mace (175).
A homunkulus sword +16 (188) is actually better than an arcane mace +3 (184).
Now let's play the same game with a sword of nightmare.
A sword of nightmare +5 (160) is better than a clean SLS (156).
A sword of nightmare +8 (178) is better than a clean Keshanberk (175).
A sword of nightmare +11 (196) is better than a Sword of Damascus (194).
A sword of nightmare +14 (214) is better than a Tallum Blade (213).
A sword of nightmare +17 (232) is equal to a Dark Legion's Edge (232).
A sword of nightmare +26 (286) is better than a Forgotten Blade (281).
A sword of nightmare +28 (298) is better than a Forgotten Blade +3 (296).
As you can see, a mage weapon progresses through the grades quite a bit faster than a melee weapon when enchanted - that, by turns, means that for a melee to attempt enchanting a weapon up through the grades is an idiotic idea if it can be helped (it can, for example, not really be helped if it's for SA reasons, as with overenchanted Swords of Damascus [Focus] or Tsu*SLSs); in reverse it also means for a mage it would be idiotic to sacrifice a rare high end weapon when he or she could just be blowing up store buyable homonkulus swords, or as the case may be, DSs.
I know I'd do it if homonkulus swords weren't so horribly ugly and if I didn't have enough worries about carry capacity without lugging around a bunch of CBSpS for a 3 consumption weapon.
PS: I don't know whether to laugh or be flabberghasted at the assumption because you didn't know someone had this or that rare item it couldn't have existed.
I got a +8 aoba in a trade as part of a larger deal for a set of A grade armor.....I then took the chance when i decided to stop playing the character i had the aoba for...i got it to 10...it is possible...its scarey as hell...I also know the hurt of over enchanting i blew up a +6 aoba going to 7 and a +8 homu going to 9. lost a good amount of money there. Over Enchanting is risky and can pay off, however if you don't try u will never understand how people get +10 or higher weapons....Just because someone has a +10 or better does't mean they used an exploit...Luck is a big part of it and having a bank roll helps thoughs that can afford to try repeatedly.
I know the guy who you are talking about he is in my clan he made it a long time ago. Also wasnt no exploit we were all rooting him on or telling him nonono!! The only thing done was to roll dice a bunch. They have a routine they use with dice to decide whether to enchant or not but just like the church or equip unequip rumors its all just luck.
how is that an exploit (talking about OP) i mean i had a +13 sol and blew it going to +14, then had a +9 blew it going to +10 then yesterday i blew a +11 going to +12....
<-- has a +9 Dark Legion Edge. I also made another one to 8.. which blew goin to 9 also.. i've made like 4 +5's.. 1 +4.. and 1 blew goin to +4.. It's all about luck basically.. i've made +5 jewelry... majestic.. but blew up like 15 to get it. and now I can't get a single weapon past 4 or 5. Mainly C grade now though.. blew up like 5 or 6 homu's... Lifetime supply of panther summoning... and got another one to +9.. so yup.. all luck
This entire argument is ridiculous. I’ve been over-enchanting since I learned it was possible (I’ve been playing since beta). Anyone that played on Lionna during C1 probably remembers me as being one of the most frequent over-enchanters on the server (I had over 20 sets of Dual Katanas in the early days, 10 of which were over +8, and several of those were +10 before they popped; which at that time those kind of enchants were rare and infrequent) And I still do it, often.
There is no trick, there is no magical voodoo dance that increases or decreases your chances, on any weapon. I’ve enchanted mage weapons (I have several Homun, SoL, SoES under my belt), melee weapons; bows, of all grades; with SAs, without. There is no single weapon that is more or less difficult to enchant. The game’s code is not arbitrary toward one or the other, even suggesting the idea is like waving a flag above your head that says, “Hey, I’m an idiot!”
Conceive as many conspiracy theories as you want. The game’s engine is not infallible, by any means, and it is exploitable, but when it comes to a specific function of the game, that function does not change itself to facilitate better opportunities for one class over another. There are numerous reasons why you don’t frequently see a certain type of weapon, all of which can be explained without throwing around words like “hacker”, “exploiter”, or “cheater” or generally being a presumptuous ***. There are a large number of mages on each server and as such a larger demand for these types of weapons, hence when they hit the market and someone can afford them, they are frequently gobbled up. Also, the market for mage weapons is severely disproportionate to their individual class when compared to other classes in their same grade. It has always been like this; therefore, the chance taken with over-enchanting a mage weapon is higher, as there is more of an investment on the line. You also don’t have to enchant a mage weapon as high to achieve the strength of another higher-grade weapon. There are other things at play here as well; smaller issues that add to the larger picture-but typing them each out would be a waste of time, as I’m sure there will be witty rebuttals for every, last, one.
Over-enchanting is merely a mixture of balls, and intelligence. Don’t over-enchant unless you have a backup weapon, (intelligent) and have the nerve to click the button (the balls part). Don’t buy a slew of lower grade weapons and blow them first, doesn’t work (and for you naysayers, unless you can produce the same results, every single time, then it is too inconsistent to be considered valid and therefore a waste of your money. So, for god’s sake, stop doing it. The only thing it is doing is acting as a placebo for your nerves, tricking you into thinking it is more possible to succeed and giving you the false sense of security needed to click the button) Also, don’t listen to your friend who told you some guy got a +16 by talking to the Giran Church column, third from the left, north side, while doing an Irish jig and balancing a puppy on top of your head; and, for goodness sake, next time you pass by someone that has a higher enchanted weapon than you, don’t pm them asking how they did it. They clicked the button… that was all.
Hey think what you guys like. NCSOFT NA already found 1 OE bug and patched it before. Doesn't take a braniac to figure out that there might be other holes.
As a programmer, I can tell you that if you write millions of lines of code, you are going to introduce several "holes" into that programming, moreso when you have a team working on 1 project. Why do you think Microsoft Windows has so many security flaws? Less than Linux but hey thats another topic altogether.
Think what you like, but your conspiracy theory holds no merit without any real evidence. The reason I and many oppose your superfluous assumptions is to not draw unwarranted fuss over the issue. Fact is, if there were an exploit of massive proportions, we would see more evidence.
LOL what a crybaby. I happen to know of a guy on Bartz with a +10 SoM and i'm wondering if you are talking about the same guy. If so I don't think he would be the type to use exploits.
Personaly i think the OP is a moron, through my personal experiance the OE rate IS 2/3, and mage weapons are no harder to OE than anything else.
If you find the OE sucess rate is not 2/3 or that mage weapons are less of a chance, then you have not enchanted near enough to see the odds even themself out, i used to think the same thing and at one point would have agreed with the OP, but i find he is probly poor with a crappy weapon and just wants to complain