What can I say? Prices have double and tripled for everthing. Bss for 100a? Helms pushing 250m+? Could keep going but i won't. I sure hope NcSoft Korea has some type of plan to help coming along to help us here in NA.
Just another reason why we need a 24/4 dev team....yes 4 the other 3 are for downtime.
I see people sitting in HV and other towns other than Giran selling SSC for around 30a and SSB for around 100a every **** day for the last week on Lionna.
I also noticed the prices were hiking dramatically after comming back from an 8 month break. Bow of Peril went from 25 mil to 47. Luckily, on Sieghardt there aren't a whole lot of buyers for BSS, so that's still relatively cheap for me. ;)
Prices on most things seem to be dropping on bartz, the only thing that remains at ******ed prices is most B grade weapons. A armour of course is a problem but that is going to be fixed in C5, and just about everyone is trying to sell their A grade armour in anticipation of this.
I expect the C5 economy to vastly improve, at least on the A grade armour market. Also notice a sharp fall on the price of EWA scrolls. Good news ahead imo.
On Teon, prices are also decreasing....
A DC helmed usually cost like 200-225kk ... now its like 165-175kk.
DS/Homu+8 usually cost 65-70kk .... now 58-60kk.
not to talk about ENRIA :) ..... goindg down from 75-80k to 50-60k..... SOP from 9k to approx. 6k (actually SOP prices has always been kind a strange... not following the common marked rate).
.... and so on :)
ohhh .... One thing has increased B-Cry/BSS
Before B-cry was 11,5k now 15k !!!!
Before BSS was 64a now 75-80a !!
Economy is done for .................................................. ........
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ADENA BUYER
yea i know, it was easy :/
Ps: good luck to people who may start a char on L2
haven't you guys noticed that prices come down just before the release of the new chronicle and stay that way for around a month into it, then prices go back up. In the beginning of C4 I got an AOBA for 19m and they are what now? 40m
If your a dwarf you have a skill called Crystallize, which allows you to break down graded items into crystals. The other way is to buy crystals from people that attempt to Enchant weapons or armor but fail.
I wouldn't say it's done for, but i get a feeling that the market isn't replenishing its self on the low end of it all.
An example would be i just got my recipes for D grade spirt and soul shots, but does anyone need them anymore or had everyone moved onto C grade now. :confused:
If your a dwarf you have a skill called Crystallize, which allows you to break down graded items into crystals. The other way is to buy crystals from people that attempt to Enchant weapons or armor but fail.
haven't you guys noticed that prices come down just before the release of the new chronicle and stay that way for around a month into it, then prices go back up. In the beginning of C4 I got an AOBA for 19m and they are what now? 40m
Are you people kidding me. I hope most of you are either in school or stay in school. Lets figure this out togeather shall we. Lets see, The PTS Comes up about a month or so before a New cronical and Prices go down for about 2 months in total why is that? Can you say becuase most of the ADENA Buyers are now on the PTS, and the Farmers are starting to get hungry for you're money becuase players arn't buying as much during these months. Its the Toilet of adena buying backing up. When less people buy adena in game it takes money form the farmers in real life. How would you like your pay check to be cut in half. You wouldn't so they drop the items a couple mil here and there and you buy it up and sell it to someone who just has to have it, that goes out and buys adena becuase they cant take some time to learn how to do things on there own, like make simple ss. Kinda funny that this happens on every cronical change huh?
Are you people kidding me. I hope most of you are either in school or stay in school. Lets figure this out togeather shall we. Lets see, The PTS Comes up about a month or so before a New cronical and Prices go down for about 2 months in total why is that? Can you say becuase most of the ADENA Buyers are now on the PTS, and the Farmers are starting to get hungry for you're money becuase players arn't buying as much during these months. Its the Toilet of adena buying backing up. When less people buy adena in game it takes money form the farmers in real life. How would you like your pay check to be cut in half. You wouldn't so they drop the items a couple mil here and there and you buy it up and sell it to someone who just has to have it, that goes out and buys adena becuase they cant take some time to learn how to do things on there own, like make simple ss. Kinda funny that this happens on every cronical change huh?
Do you really think that these groups are stuck in Lineage? Bah, they are spread out on all games. You never, ever limit your income stream to one source. As we prepair to go to C5 here, WoW is stable, Star Wars is stable, hell, the number of OnLine games is large enough that I am sure Lin2 is just a drop in the total bucket. While you may have a valid point, as far as it goes, the truth may be closer to people waiting to see what they need in C5. It is just like when Microsoft issues a press bulletin on vapor ware. It **** near freezes everyone's buying of new stuff until they can determine what Microsoft will bring to the table.
haven't you guys noticed that prices come down just before the release of the new chronicle and stay that way for around a month into it, then prices go back up. In the beginning of C4 I got an AOBA for 19m and they are what now? 40m
Are you people kidding me. I hope most of you are either in school or stay in school. Lets figure this out togeather shall we. Lets see, The PTS Comes up about a month or so before a New cronical and Prices go down for about 2 months in total why is that? Can you say becuase most of the ADENA Buyers are now on the PTS, and the Farmers are starting to get hungry for you're money becuase players arn't buying as much during these months. Its the Toilet of adena buying backing up. When less people buy adena in game it takes money form the farmers in real life. How would you like your pay check to be cut in half. You wouldn't so they drop the items a couple mil here and there and you buy it up and sell it to someone who just has to have it, that goes out and buys adena becuase they cant take some time to learn how to do things on there own, like make simple ss. Kinda funny that this happens on every cronical change huh?
obviously you dont know how to read cause I said "JUST" before the chronicle comes out and then I said "A MONTH INTO IT" did these to valid points escape you?
Prices always fluctuates before a new chron. With regards to b grade being so high, I think it because a lot of people hit 75 so that whole quest to get a sub requires b grade weapon and crystals.
Adena prices that are set by farmers is what holds the key. Do some reseach, when adena prices are low..items prices go up and vice versa. I could almost bet my wife that the flux people talk about in pricing follows hand-in-hand with that.
On the seventh day NcSoft created the manor system. NcSoft said this was good, but so did the farmers.......
exactly. I have been crafting zubei leather armor for about 3 months now. 60% rec spoil where I am hunting and I can buy the key mats in aden for just above npc value. I use the manor for my mats at crush the zubei Even with the recs being 60% I still come out at 10k or less per crystal. Much less then market price. I then turn around and craft sould shot with Elmore Brand soul ore, and sell it to ppl to lazy to do just that at 78 adena each.
PPL then have the audacity to say I buy adena because I can afford S grade robes.
Plus until recently lvl 13 crystals was a great money maker, if your guild can kill ember.
Whoever said that low end market was deluded, it's cause farmers don't mess with low market, so it relies on na players, who for the most part hate to farm.
After L3 comes out; L2 will be a nice hardcore place to play, much like L1 is. If L1 wasn't so primitive, I'd play there, it's a purer comunity.
lvl 13 crystals went from 550M to 290M in 1 week time...ok it went down, but you must admit it's still way more expensive then it should be huh
Supposedly more mobs lvl the crystals.
But what is a "fair" price for S grade things? I think 1 B adena should get you into full S gear weapon jewels with enchants. That's not too far off these days. I will make 1 B adena when I need it as well. You will probably say that's way too much.
see myself I have come never ocme near hitting the limit for adena since most of my money is tied up in the market. One of the big ways to fund crafting for profit is the manor. WHile I have at time accumulated quite a bit of fruit do to being beat at the turn in, I usually will end up buying all the seeds I want one night and selling them back the next.
I dought I will ever ever hit the limit also. If you keep a close eye on the market and know how to work the manor right it is, atleast for me, the best way to make adena in the game.
hehe....I tend to buy up all the seeds I can every night of the type I plan to use. Share them with clan mates that want to use them, or stock the ones in my WH that I don't use (save them for a rainy day). For the most part I tend to get around 75% or more of my fruit turned in each day.
I would say that any class over lvl 20 can make on average between 2 and 8 mill per day if they work at it and use the manor system currectly. Oh and as long as the castle lord is smart enough to run a good manor system.
300m for crystal is not far off if you consider EWS at 45 mill and to SA duals you need to spend almost 200 mill, with 33% fail chance to lose 150 of it. Sounds about accurate actually.
Doom Helmet +0 ------------- 9m
Doom Plate Armor +4 ------- 30m
Demon Sword +3 with CD -- 80m
TSU*SLS + 7 ----------------- 140m
Dama*Dama ----------------- 290m
And my personal favourite... a Basalt Battlehammer +5 with SA for 1.5Bil
Usually by OE and it fails. happened to me a couple of times....
But usually i manage to buy the crystals i need from player shops..
A note here, i dont buy crytals to mass produce Shots n resell them, i only buy what i need to equip one of my toons.. or in some cases, a friends toon....
So i dont normally need exsessive amounts of crytals to create my shots.... If i do, its for my Sps and i might craft like 20k in one shot, but it will last me a couple weeks.... I HATE crafting shots... :p