how dose "Empower" SA works ???

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well am going to wear sword with SA....
but i dunno what should i chouse
"Magic Power" or "Empower" as SA

well i read that
"Magic Power" gives +153 MATAK
"Empower" gives +30 MATAK

and as i already tryed ..."Magic Power" gives +153 MATAK to the output matak ... so

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak) * Empower + 153 Matak(SA)

but what dose "Empower" do ??? the same ?? but lower matak couse dosent incrase cast cost or when it is equiped it gives matak to the weapons matak ?

so formula could be

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak + 30MAtak(SA) ) * Empower

so. dose anybodey know forsure how dose "empower" works ?
thanks for any help.
The matk from empower SA is added to the final matk, after all buffs. Like magic power SA. So - yes, it is not particularly good.

They really should give that SA a different name. I have met so many players who planned on putting that SA on their weapon, "because it will give me a permanent empower buff". And others thought, like you, that the number would be added to the weapon's matk (because the matk added is so small). But just think about it - that would be way too powerful, since it would transform a C grade weapon into a top B one, and an A grade weapon into a S grade one. It would be the equivalent of a quite highly enchanted weapon, just via putting on a SA.
omg....
so what is point of Empower? o.O
153 and 30 is difference in 5 TIMES...
and even if it dose transmit to the next lvl ...
it is Special Ability anyway
it should do some kind of PLUST to the weapon.
Magic power came with 15% more mana used when using skills. Empower is "clean" no drawbacks, only +to magic power.
Becouse the bonus from magic power and empower SAs is added after the buffs are applied, its not a very good ideea to use them after C grade.
lets take a little math

"Magic Power"

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak) * Empower + 153 Matak(SA)

"Empower" if it could add + to basic matak

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak + 30MAtak(SA) ) * Empower

and as Empower lvl 3 = ~x2.5

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak + 30MAtak(SA) ) * 2.5

Result MAtak = (Basic MAtak + Weapon MAtak) * 2.5 + 75matak

so....it is + 75 !!!!

and again difference between 157 and 75 is 2 times !!!
Well i duno about all the math... giving me a headhache.... :D

All i know is that if your a SpellSinger DO NOT use Magic power. Empower or acumen is good for Sps.
Sps tend to go thru their MP a lil more then other nukers :p
Adding that SA on for Sps just drains MP like mad, its crazy.. dont do it......

If your a SH, magic power can be used more successfully then a Sps. But i duno if they use that alot after C grade. The only SH i know lvl 70+ uses SOM with Acument i think, but not sure.

Cheers!!
Both magic power and empower are bad SA's, especially if you use bsps.

The matk is added after all buffs including shots so when you charge a bsps it is a 4x multiplier on your matk while the SA is not multiplied.

If you have a matk of 400 buffed it will be 430 with the empower SA (+7.5%) but with a bsps charged your effective matk would be 1630 (+~1.9%). The higher your buffed matk the less the SA helps. The 15% increase in mp used makes the magic power SA worse than nothing if you use any kind of shots.

There are very few times when a +1.9% change in matk would be useful; it is only a ~0.9% increase in damage.

after all buffs including shots



This is the first time I've heard of this, could you cite a source or provide a screenshot?
It was suggested that the Crit Damage SA worked like this in this thread.
Crit. Damage (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=640520&an=0&page=0#64052 0)

I was just assuming the empower and magic power SA work in the same way as the SA is added in the same place in the equation.
matk equation (http://l2p.bravehost.com/matk.html)

Oops, I noticed that site doesn't mention shot and there is no proof as to SS in the thread I linked (it might have just been the effect of DW). So much for assumptions. :o

Hmm, anyone else have some evidence either way? Is weapon mastery affected by shots?
Ive done same testing with necro lvl 54.
Sowd w/magic power gives a listed Matck 522
SOV w/acumen gives a listed Matck 502 :eek:
However when buffed this changes: with sowd I got 1000 matck, with Sov I got 1100 matck.
So magic power is good if u play solo without buffs. if u have a buffer, forget it, Use acumen.