Dropping equipped weapon change?

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If a train of TOI 9 mobs came down on me, can i drop my main equipped primary weapon?

I remember back in c2 i'd drop it now and then, and hear a bunch of stories from people dropping they primary weapon. I don't hear it much anymore. Did something change?
I dont think anything has changed, I think the chance of dropping rate has significantly decreased from what it used to be. But equipped Items are not always the ones which you'll drop. ^^
You CAN NOT drop an equiped wearpon when you are five or less PK or white.
ledaa, i hate to doubt you, but i'd really hate to get into a b grade weapon for 50 mill and just drop it from a train.

Do you have anything i could read about subject?

ledaa, i hate to doubt you, but i'd really hate to get into a b grade weapon for 50 mill and just drop it from a train.

Do you have anything i could read about subject?



Sarge has officially posted about it. Use the search button and trust your pals more.

But I'll correct the poster :

To drop your weapon you need to :

Be red
Have more than 5 PKS = 6 or more.



Sarge has officially posted about it. Use the search button and trust your pals more.

But I'll correct the poster :

To drop your weapon you need to :

Be red
Have more than 5 PKS = 6 or more.



I have faith in everyone here, i just like to hear it from more than 1 person lol.
SInce you've been kind I'll repost :



SargeNC:

This is going to be ugly, because this software doesn't do tables well, but here is the current status of player drops. (NOTE: This is the way it is right now - it was not always this way, and may not always be this way in the future. Please do not petition about previous drop issues)

Player Karma = White

Killed By: NPC PC Summon/Pet

Can Drop Weapon? N N N

Can Drop Items? Y N N

Player Karma = Purple/Red with < 6 PKs

Killed By: NPC PC Summon/Pet

Can Drop Weapon? N N N

Can Drop Items? Y N N

Player Karma = Red with 6 or more PKs

Killed By: NPC PC Summon/Pet

Can Drop Weapon? Y Y Y

Can Drop Items? Y Y Y



You CAN NOT drop an equiped wearpon when you are five or less PK or white.



I have droped my weapon after beeing killed by an mob. I had 0 PK and karma...I then e-mailed NCNA and they claimed that I draged my weapon on the ground and that it was my fault lol

I also droped my adena once, you all know that it is suposed to be imposible.


...this was in C4...


You CAN NOT drop an equiped wearpon when you are five or less PK or white.



I have droped my weapon after beeing killed by an mob. I had 0 PK and karma...I then e-mailed NCNA and they claimed that I draged my weapon on the ground and that it was my fault lol

I also droped my adena once, you all know that it is suposed to be imposible.


...this was in C4...



it IS impossible :/ they probebly seen the code... and if it says adena =!drop then.. thats that :p same goes for dropping your weapon. if its hard coded, and it really doesnt have to be alot of code, so hard to get a bug in that, it just wont happen

I have droped my weapon after beeing killed by an mob. I had 0 PK and karma...I then e-mailed NCNA and they claimed that I draged my weapon on the ground and that it was my fault lol

I also droped my adena once, you all know that it is suposed to be imposible.


...this was in C4...



clearly you have screenshots of this
I remember this discussion a bit differently. My impression was that NCsoft said you were not supposed to be able to drop your equipted weapon unless you were red with over 5 PKs. But they then added that you should petition if it happened.

To me, this says there is a freakish way for it to occur. If it does, TAKE SCREENSHOTS and then petition. A friend of mine had this happen, but without screenshots, he did not get his weapon back.

To me, this says there is a freakish way for it to occur. If it does, TAKE SCREENSHOTS and then petition. A friend of mine had this happen, but without screenshots, he did not get his weapon back.


only a moron programmer could mess up the code so bad that it could happen
Are you saying that L2 is programmed well?

Or that the programmers are morons?

:p
Since I see you have programming skills of say a million line program, I guess you could say that. But if, as it looks by your comment, you are still doing the "Hello World" in vbscript, I don't think you have any room to make such a rude statement.

Since I see you have programming skills of say a million line program, I guess you could say that. But if, as it looks by your comment, you are still doing the "Hello World" in vbscript, I don't think you have any room to make such a rude statement.



actually i have done some game codeing
fair enough its with a bastardised version of c++ with gamestudio and i suck at doing it, but honestly it only takes one single line of code to decide if something drops or not, not that hard to do right :P
I would seriously doubt it's a single line of code to decide that. The code has to go through a bunch of logic to determine if an item CAN be dropped (PK count, Karma, equipped weapon? quest item? adena? etc), and then if it can, it uses the RNG to decide if it WILL be dropped. It also has to determine how many items will drop. And since this is a very dynamic environment, parameters are in a constant state of change, so it's going to be problematic at times. Bugs do happen...any programmer (even the best ones) know that.

The code I work on currently consists of 11750 files and has more than 10 million lines of code. To believe a system like this is simple and decisions are made with a single line of code is just...ignorant.

I would seriously doubt it's a single line of code to decide that. The code has to go through a bunch of logic to determine if an item CAN be dropped (PK count, Karma, equipped weapon? quest item? adena? etc), and then if it can, it uses the RNG to decide if it WILL be dropped. It also has to determine how many items will drop. And since this is a very dynamic environment, parameters are in a constant state of change, so it's going to be problematic at times. Bugs do happen...any programmer (even the best ones) know that.


that is a good point
simple answer
not you cant drop your equipt weapon unless you have been naughty
if you do screenshot and petition
As SargeNC states then, server setting set to such state that primary equipped weapon can't be dropped at all if you ain't pk with 5+ pk count. Mizwisfist, quoted that reply.

And there was also one notice, like: "That wasn't always been so and it ain't guaranteed that it will be so later"

So if settings wasn't changed since then, you can depend on this drop table.
I dropped adena around 5 times while lvling in cruma marshlands in mid 30's and freezing due to lag and beeing ***** by 82738921 drones.

I managed to walk back from Dion 3 times to get the adena back.. but i lost like 100k total.
Now i never carry over 30k.

I dropped adena around 5 times while lvling in cruma marshlands in mid 30's and freezing due to lag and beeing ***** by 82738921 drones.

I managed to walk back from Dion 3 times to get the adena back.. but i lost like 100k total.
Now i never carry over 30k.


once again screenshots please
its weird that its happened to you 3 times but i can cdl my mage with a billion deaths and it hasnt happened once
I never took screenies.. was too desperate to respawn fast and walk back to get the adena.