Best buffer for Archer class

Which buffer should i make for an archer class. It will probably be a SR

anyone know.... i cant deside between PP and SE

Between those two, I'd say PP for holy weapon, zerk and possibly haste. Of course there's also recharges from the SE... but I think it'd be better to kill faster. :D

PP hands down. The only real use an SE is to an archer is recharges, but if you are fully buffed with PP buffs, you're almost gauranteed to NOT run out of MP, ever. Especially if you are equipped with a Cheap Shot bow.

I am startin on the new server and i am going to be poor like everyone else.... so i wont be usin pots or anything and i dont know if i will have cheepshot or not....so if thats changes anything

If you don't have potions, a prophet will be the best choice available, as everyone will want buffs from you period.

Prophet FTW!!! YAY :D

what is "PP" ??? (besides the childish idiom for urination)

ProPhet?
Player Prophet?
Played Prophet?

doesn't make any sense.

ProPhet.

If it doesn't make any sense, does WL?

Prophet is by far the best. I used to duo with an archer. He said my buffs were -_- amazing for a duo. Gues i will take his word on that.

Now that someone mentioned it, I think PPP should be used.
PPP = Played Prophet, So people can start shouting "!Lf PPP for duo"
That will be the day
But a PPP would be semi-useless for an archer cause he would kill the mobs way before the Prophet could get to it.

You could use a bo-- oh wait. Overpowered on you and had to be nerfed.

You can speed up the killspeed as a PP by pulling more mobs in while the archer is killing and rooting them - it takes some practice to get used to though, and who knows if you'll have the mana spare.

I disagree. SE for an archer so you can get recharges, guidance, focus, DW. You don't need haste since you get rapid shot. And if you get GSA pots you're even faster... provided you can get enough mp from the SE.
That will allow you to get a useful SA on your bow, a dmg one.
You won't need zerk if you solo as it only drows more heals = less mp for the recharges = downtime.
And an SA is way over a zerk buff.
And finally you can have a macro to root your target and don't care. The bishop has high sleep and low root. Slee breaks at each shot .. cool.

SE :
More mana
Better SA than Cheap Shot allowed on you bow = more dmg.
Root = you won't be stunned, nor need heals = more MP again
No haste but Greater swift attack + Rapid shot =no need for haste.
Also has Guidance, DW, focus.

PP:
Holy buffs if you feel like hunting only undeads lol
Cheap Shot mandatory. Ewww.
Haste : without recharges it's a one way road to downtime, een with Cheap Shot, but not if you don't use rapid shot.
BtS : increasing the mana pool is good the first time, not when you have to regen, see former point.

In the end you'll be happier with a Prophet.

Glad to see you know what makes me happy better than I do.

I've tried ToI on a grp with prophet just yesterday. THen we added an SE and everyone wsa Haaa cool, MP for our archers...
And everyone asked the prophet not to haste the archers.

In the end you'll level faster with an SE. Happyness is just a trick of the mind.

Any moron knows its a prophet.

SE is useless for archers.

Never does a archer level with a SE. I can go for 2 hours without regening on my PR and i dont have cheap shot on my bow. So please stop giving misinformation to people.

Prophet also have zerk btb bts magical barrier holy weapon all elements resists invigorate.

Also in c5 archers get B2M so no need for a se at all for an archer.

Any moron knows its a prophet.

SE is useless for archers.

Never does a archer level with a SE. I can go for 2 hours without regening on my PR and i dont have cheap shot on my bow. So please stop giving misinformation to people.

Prophet also have zerk btb bts magical barrier holy weapon all elements resists invigorate.

Also in c5 archers get B2M so no need for a se at all for an archer.

this post is just lol. if you can level for 2 hours w/o rest and w/o cheapshot... then you must be killing like 5 mobs per minute.

You don't need haste since you get rapid shot. And if you get GSA pots you're even faster...

Sorry?

Didn't you know Krissa? :) Anything that makes an archer actually dip their MP is bad. Because you know - shooting more per time reduces their DPS.

Whatever happened to back-up daggers?

Considering the OP said that he wanted to start on a new server and has no money for pots a Prophet is definately the best. With haste 2 and zerk most mobs will be dead before they reach you so there is only little need for heals. You will run out of mana eventually, but thats not really a big problem IMO. With Cheap Shot you can last long enough. Don't let people confuse you with SA's. CS is the best, the others don't come close.

I disagree. SE for an archer so you can get recharges, guidance, focus, DW. You don't need haste since you get rapid shot. And if you get GSA pots you're even faster... provided you can get enough mp from the SE.
That will allow you to get a useful SA on your bow, a dmg one.
You won't need zerk if you solo as it only drows more heals = less mp for the recharges = downtime.
And an SA is way over a zerk buff.
And finally you can have a macro to root your target and don't care. The bishop has high sleep and low root. Slee breaks at each shot .. cool.

SE :
More mana
Better SA than Cheap Shot allowed on you bow = more dmg.
Root = you won't be stunned, nor need heals = more MP again
No haste but Greater swift attack + Rapid shot =no need for haste.
Also has Guidance, DW, focus.

PP:
Holy buffs if you feel like hunting only undeads lol
Cheap Shot mandatory. Ewww.
Haste : without recharges it's a one way road to downtime, een with Cheap Shot, but not if you don't use rapid shot.
BtS : increasing the mana pool is good the first time, not when you have to regen, see former point.

Wow, there are so many things wrong in this post. Just ignore it, its for the best.

Any moron knows its a prophet.

SE is useless for archers.

Never does a archer level with a SE. I can go for 2 hours without regening on my PR and i dont have cheap shot on my bow. So please stop giving misinformation to people.

Prophet also have zerk btb bts magical barrier holy weapon all elements resists invigorate.

Also in c5 archers get B2M so no need for a se at all for an archer.

this post is just lol. if you can level for 2 hours w/o rest and w/o cheapshot... then you must be killing like 5 mobs per minute.


Why is that post just..? lol (besides the fact that no one has a right to call anyone a moron for stating there opinion)
I still say go PP, they get a lot of there godd, decent buffs early on, where most classes have to wait & get higher in levels. They sav you on acumen pots/haste pots/health pots (they can heal a bit to help out) & they are a diverse class that you can use to Buff/Heal/Tank.

Any moron knows its a prophet.

SE is useless for archers.

Never does a archer level with a SE. I can go for 2 hours without regening on my PR and i dont have cheap shot on my bow. So please stop giving misinformation to people.

Prophet also have zerk btb bts magical barrier holy weapon all elements resists invigorate.

Also in c5 archers get B2M so no need for a se at all for an archer.

this post is just lol. if you can level for 2 hours w/o rest and w/o cheapshot... then you must be killing like 5 mobs per minute.



i am 77 pr and its a total non sense to claim you can go for 2h without cheapshot SA, you can go 1 or 2 buff rounds the most, unless you kill very very very slow. then maybe you can go for 2h, with self buffs lol.

ther is no way you can go for 2h without rechagre or cheapshot else.

and i think prophet is best for archer duo, but i never mind duoing with SE, GSA pot ftw. and recharges are nice, even when PR/HE has BTM now.

I disagree. SE for an archer so you can get recharges, guidance, focus, DW. You don't need haste since you get rapid shot. And if you get GSA pots you're even faster... provided you can get enough mp from the SE.
That will allow you to get a useful SA on your bow, a dmg one.
You won't need zerk if you solo as it only drows more heals = less mp for the recharges = downtime.
And an SA is way over a zerk buff.
And finally you can have a macro to root your target and don't care. The bishop has high sleep and low root. Slee breaks at each shot .. cool.

SE :
More mana
Better SA than Cheap Shot allowed on you bow = more dmg.
Root = you won't be stunned, nor need heals = more MP again
No haste but Greater swift attack + Rapid shot =no need for haste.
Also has Guidance, DW, focus.

PP:
Holy buffs if you feel like hunting only undeads lol
Cheap Shot mandatory. Ewww.
Haste : without recharges it's a one way road to downtime, een with Cheap Shot, but not if you don't use rapid shot.
BtS : increasing the mana pool is good the first time, not when you have to regen, see former point.

Wow, there are so many things wrong in this post. Just ignore it, its for the best.



I completely Agree with ya Doc =)

Any moron knows its a prophet.

SE is useless for archers.

Never does a archer level with a SE. I can go for 2 hours without regening on my PR and i dont have cheap shot on my bow. So please stop giving misinformation to people.

Prophet also have zerk btb bts magical barrier holy weapon all elements resists invigorate.

Also in c5 archers get B2M so no need for a SE at all for an archer.

this post is just lol. if you can level for 2 hours w/o rest and w/o cheapshot... then you must be killing like 5 mobs per minute.



i am 77 pr and its a total non sense to claim you can go for 2h without cheapshot SA, you can go 1 or 2 buff rounds the most, unless you kill very very very slow. then maybe you can go for 2h, with self buffs lol.

there is no way you can go for 2h without recharge or cheapshot else.

and i think prophet is best for archer duo, but i never mind duoing with SE, GSA pot ftw. and recharges are nice, even when PR/HE has BTM now.



There are so many ways you can look at the question.

first you must know about the class he is playing.

He said a SR, SR doesn't get Pain of saggitarous.(don't fit to LE's)

SR crts the most of the archers yet has the lowest P atk.

now SR fires off faster shots then PR/HE does, so for a SR in PvE CS is highly recumended! cause they have no meens to regen mp.

I would say SE, cause of recharge only, but SE could pull with wind strike, and root...but if your duo boxing through that out the window. cause it's worhtless to ever try just a total waste of time (trust me).

as a duo box, I'd most deffently say PP!

PP is best IMO for SR.

Best DF buffs.

And all the best offencive ones. inclueding greatter might.. cause SR = lowest dmg out; not counting crt's! (which will bring up his cost a lil bit at later lvls but by then he'd have a ton of money)


SR gets raid shot, nice new skill for them...how ever, lowers range to 600...and makes you fire off alot of arrows.(more runing around)

SA's make a big difference based on your buffs and your location that your hunting at.

HW is a nice bonus cause it adds so much more dmg to his atks if he stays on undeads...which has spots all of the way up to 80+.

PP is good, if there is another player with SE in area trade buffs for a few recharges.

zerk adds good P atk and atk speed.


Take my for a HE for example: it's the same go with the PP. I have a SE...so I have to spam GSAP to keep my atk speed up..

yet I get BtM. and with my SE I can use a different SA from CS to up my dmg out put. (Q/R...btw) also pain of saggitarius: gives 49 mp for 366ish HP at max lvl.(lvl 74 I beleave)

But I lose out on saving adena from GSAP's, and SS useage cause my dmg should be a lil lower.

IMO OP: as a SR get a PP and trade buffs if you need a few recharges. also cause your going to be poor use a dagger for lvl 1-52. then get a BoP.... what server are you rerolling to, franz?