I have been told that the Raid Bosses have been changed in C5. What I mean is, that I was told that they have increased the number of HP on the RB's making it almost impossible for one RBG to take one RB alone. If this is true I wish someone would make it more public. I gained most of my level doing RBG's. I enjoy doing them. It makes the grind of leveling more enjoyable. But it is hard enough to put together one good RBG much less two, And to try to keep them both on target. So, is this the end of one group RBG? Please someone give me a straight answer. Thanks for atleast reading my post and any information you might can give. :confused:
2½ -3 full parties can drop RBs, they have about 3x the HP of C4 and minions respawn in 30sec-1minute or so. Melees now do much more dmg to the RBs than they used to and it seems that nuker dmg is a bit less than before.
As far as I can tell it IS the end of the one-group raidboss group.
Even for lvl 20 or 23 or 25 bosses.
I haven't been able to put together a strong enough group yet to take one with just 9 players.
Also as far as I can tell the exp and drops haven't improved much.
For low bosses it's a lot of fuss and time to not get much reward.
Good luck to you, OP.
problem with having more then 1 group, when it comes to random pickup raid bos groups is the drops wont be split evenly ammount group. they should have a /raidinvite or something so the loot gets randomised ammongst all or just to the raidboss leader
Well, thank you for your input. I have noticed the same when I have tried to do anything as well. I had the perfect group last night and did not even get 10% of the hp off the boss before we were all out of mp. This really sucks that they would mess up a good thing and not even make it more known and publicized. Well I wish you all good luck. Looks like I will be in the fields with the bots doing the old fashion grind. Thanks NC Soft for messing up my whole world :(
Yeah, but if the main tank is out of mana and can't hold boss, then everyone that is out of mana ( Healers can't heal without mana and Nukers can't Nuke) just die. That means the melees are dead close behind. I always have a main tank usually a DA,SK,or TK; an assist tank like a BD; a SE; a Bishop, possibly a WC, but the rest Nukers. All the mages are useless without mana. :( Very disappointing that RBG has gone to this. :(
i'm glad someone pointed out this serious matter.I came back from vacations yesterday only to find that the only thing that kept me in this game (Raid Bosses) has been ruined!!
I didn't even download the C5 in my 2nd pc and i'm seriously thinking of moving to another game.My main problem is that i don't see any obvious reason for ncsoft to make Bosses that hard,can anyone explain me?
get more tanks ? :P let the nukers and healers use their mana wisely. dont spam like crazy but try to devide your nukes over the bosses life. get a specialised healer for once :P it all should help a ton. and just get more then 1 party :p
They should of added Raid Bosses that were just for Clans, not make the RB's that were already in the game harder. This was a very important part of the game and now it is ruined for so many people. The whole idea of killing a RB with two or more groups in nice if you could put together and organize all the groups like you do during a siege, but you can't. They should of finished the thought. It is like they started the concept and then went to something else. We need RBG drop distribution, RBG chat channel, or wait I know let more than nine players join a RBG. That would of completed the thought. NC Soft lets finish what you started and get your act together. Make RBG's part of the game again and not just for "Clans" or is this Lineage II Clan Wars.
But seriously Please make if better, add something or make only clan RB's or make a few just for us die hard RBG's. I want my old RBG back. :(
Orka, thanks for your input. But I have RBGed for the past few months and gained over 20 lvls doing so. I have only died like 5 times the whole time doing so. The one thing I do know how to do in this game is RBG, that is until C5. I never run out of mana. And when my main Tank Screams everybody "SOE", I listen. I just wish the RB's would not have been messed with or they would have added clan RB's or something to make it more even. They just need to do more is all I am saying. Finish the thought. :(
i know alot of people lvl just on raidbosses, but, even when its fun, it was never ment to be like that... atleast i dont think it is :P its super xp and chance of nice drops all day long. it would nulify the need for lvling grounds if everyone would just be doing that.. and tbh they should if they wer e still that easy.
i already hated how mini bosses were changed to raidbosses in C4 was it ?? and now those raidbosses are nearly impossible to kill. its a shame. i loved soloing minibosses on a archer or nuker. oir atleast try, when they turned into raidbosses, soloing wasnt possible anymore. but alteast 1 party was enough to drop them. but i never saw them as a main way of lvling, just as a nice change of pace after a days grind
I don't think that RB's should be the only way someone lvl's, but it did break up the same old, same old. I think we all did enough of that getting to lvl 20. And when you can't put a good group together you have no choice but to hit the fields and kill like a bot. The RBG brought a little excitement into the game.... and shame on any of us for I dare say ...enjoy the game. Glad to hear that when I reach my 70's, Kayosoni, that I will be able to one group a RB again , but til then it is impossible. I tried with my lvl 20+ alts and my main lvl 56 SH, No luck. And others that do them say the same, but at least we have something to work for in the fields with all the bots......one day...one day.... we can do it again.....one day. I don't or didn't want to have to grind in the field like a little bot to get my lvl. I wanted to have some fun, excitement, and do something other than "The Grind". The grind gets old. That is why so many people have alts, they are tired of playing a character for hours and hours to only get 10%. They start an new char. and it is a lvl everytime they turn around. It brings back the excitement, the fun, the reason to play again. Well that is my opinion anyway. So here is to playing in the fields with bots, won't you join me. Oh, I forgot we have no choice now. :(
LOL. All the mobs combined that you killed going to lvl 20 wouldnt even compare to 0.1% of the total exp at higher lvls. RBs were way too easy in C4. It's great that they changed them back to resemble C3 RBs. RBs should be something that takes alot more than just 1 party to drop. They're huge, unique bosses and thus they are _hard_. And if you want to break the grind, PVP! PVP is the only reason people should even be grinding since in the end, when you're max lvl there is no more lvling to be done. There is no more equipment you really need since you prolly have gathered it already. The game is all about pvp, so go and fight some.
great! except for the fact that a few of the raid bosses are in instanced areas that are only accessible by one group at a time. where does it leave us as far as those are concerned?? they have a brand new area with a brand new boss and i for one dont want to spend all freaking day putting together the parts i need to go in there only to find it impossible for a 9-man party to defeat.
some of us fight plenty already between our hunts without having to fill up every remaining second with the garnering of pvp/pk points. it was a refeshing change to be able to rb hunt, and working to find the perfect combination of chars to take on each one was part of that enjoyment.
The problem I see is with the formation of raid boss parties, specially when peolpe are not from the same clan. It used to be hard hard enough to gather a full party before C5. Now gather 2 parties? It will take a long time to do that and many people leave during this waiting time.
Build relations and call on them again for raids. The reliable ones stick around.
Also, start planning before you intend to raid - start PMing people: "Are you free in an hour?" not "start sitting on your *** on standby, we're trying to do a raidboss here".
Thank you TigerLady. This is what I have been saying all along. And for some of us this game is not about getting to the max lvl then going on a PK killing spree. I enjoy meeting people from all over the world and actually doing something productive. I like the almost 60 friends I have made on the game because I don't PK. It seems stupid that there are people of higher lvl running around deleveling and making everyone elses life a living hell. I think we all had enough of that in School. Can we grow up sooner or later. The game has a PvP option. Does not mean that you have to show off that you are some high lvl god and someone 10 lvls lower than you can die with one hit. That is just insane. I like that the game has sieges and arenas for anyone to prove who's sword is longer anyday of the week, but I have to say that the PK part of the game just sucks. If it is PvP than it is mutual. But toomany want to just PK you and then dance on your body. But anyway that is just my opinion. Everyone do what your going to do and the rest will try to stay out of your way. Peace and watch your back cuz no one else will.
Yesterday my clan put together two groups, neither of them full. One was 2 healers, tank, and melee. The other was nukers. Our average level was in the low 30s (tank was 40 though), and we did 3 level 34-35 raid bosses.
And oh boy was it fun like back in the c3 days again. Respawning minions (very cool) for 2 of them, and a knock-down, drag out fight against a solo boss. Both of the bosses required more than just clicking attack and watching tv for a minute. Very good changes here. Personally I'm glad that the pickup groups will die out in favor of the organized groups. Nothing's quite as lousy as getting everyone to set aside time on a given day only to find nothing to hunt.
But while the fun was the same as c3, the drops were nowhere even remotely close to as good. Oh well, at least it was fun.