There seems to be several posts regarding the changes to RB's and the requirements. To make things easier if you have been on a raid since C5 began can you post here as to the outcome. Did you succeed, amounts in your party, drops etc. Only give as much info as you're happy with, don't want to make it easy for everyone to go kill your same RB if you now know how to :p
The bosses now vary quite a bit from one to another. Their weaknesses and strengths vary significantly, but include all the stuff you might guess: melee, magic, archery, holy, unholy.
Match up your strength vs the bosses weakness and things get much easier. ;)
With the amounts of orbs you need to make things with it is hugely disappointing in the frequency and amount they drop. They should make them drop more to actually make it a viable option for getting a-grade gear.
Yeah.. the orbs are a joke. As near as I can tell, sometime next year I'll be able to buy a nice B grade tunic... if the RB farmers get banned so that we can actually raid a couple nights per week.
Did a few mid 30s bosses this evening (no high level ones!). With between 23 and 16 people, totally mixed classes and only two real nukers (one summoner). They were a lot harder than in C4, but it's also a lot more fun. We had one total wipe, and a few deaths scattered here and there but we managed to kill 7 bosses.
It's great that raid bosses regen hp so much slower, and melee do a lot more damage. It means it's not just a case of bring as many nukers as you can anymore, everyone is helpful now.
Drops seem to be a lot better on these bosses than they were in C4.
Yeah.. the orbs are a joke. As near as I can tell, sometime next year I'll be able to buy a nice B grade tunic... if the RB farmers get banned so that we can actually raid a couple nights per week.
This is a personal pet peeve of mine. READ THE **** PATCH NOTES!!!!! The orbs are NOT used for making items. They have one use and one use only. They are to be used in conjunction with clan reputation points to purchase clan skills. Life crystals are what are used to make items and as far as I know life crystals have not been implemented yet if people are getting full drops from raid bosses. Raid bosses in the future will not drop ANY full items, only life crystals which can then be turned into items. Since they are still dropping full items, guess life crystals haven't been implemented yet and will be on a future update.
Tried Orfen yesterday with 59- people from ally or their alts. We were 2 full parties, that was what we managed to get together pretty quick. Healthy mixture of classes, had external buffs. After munching her health to like 19/20? (LoL) her minions spawned again, tanks ran OOM and she had gone berserk running around and killing everyone on sight. She is much stronger now than she used to be in C4.
So 2 parties is a no-no for Orfen. Maybe 4 could make some serious dent in her health.
And definitely need more people with purify, she paralyzes pretty often.
The bosses now vary quite a bit from one to another. Their weaknesses and strengths vary significantly, but include all the stuff you might guess: melee, magic, archery, holy, unholy.
Match up your strength vs the bosses weakness and things get much easier. ;)
Thanks for that Big but firstly I know how to check the bosses strenghts and weaknesses, always have, always will and secondly the post isn't for me, it's for others who have asked about the new way RB's need to be played :p
Yeah.. the orbs are a joke. As near as I can tell, sometime next year I'll be able to buy a nice B grade tunic... if the RB farmers get banned so that we can actually raid a couple nights per week.
This is a personal pet peeve of mine. READ THE **** PATCH NOTES!!!!! The orbs are NOT used for making items. They have one use and one use only. They are to be used in conjunction with clan reputation points to purchase clan skills. Life crystals are what are used to make items and as far as I know life crystals have not been implemented yet if people are getting full drops from raid bosses. Raid bosses in the future will not drop ANY full items, only life crystals which can then be turned into items. Since they are still dropping full items, guess life crystals haven't been implemented yet and will be on a future update.
Umm.. You are wrong.
Walk up to the adventurer guildsmen in any town. He will show you a list of items he can make, and the cost of those items. The cost is in Orbs, the exact same one's that we got while raiding the other day.
It just so happens that these same exact orbs are required to purchase clan skills.
In addition, the adventurer guildsman has several boxes that can be purchased for significantly less than the whole items. In the description, it says you have a chance of getting an item. Same thing - they cost ORBS.
Go LOOK IN THE **** GAME. The patch notes are poorly written, and as usual, are only about 90% accurate.
I like to hope that we're only half way to where they say we're going to be, and that they are going to totally remove all items from the RB drop lists, and make it strictly ORBS, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
It would be kind of odd for them to put something that we're going to get in a later patch into the C5 patch notes though.
The bosses now vary quite a bit from one to another. Their weaknesses and strengths vary significantly, but include all the stuff you might guess: melee, magic, archery, holy, unholy.
Match up your strength vs the bosses weakness and things get much easier. ;)
Thanks for that Big but firstly I know how to check the bosses strenghts and weaknesses, always have, always will and secondly the post isn't for me, it's for others who have asked about the new way RB's need to be played :p
lol.. then it's a tidbit for everyone else. ;)
Here's another:
Raid Bosses regen HP at a much much much lower rate than before. This means you don't have to bring a mage army to keep nuking them in order to stay ahead of thier HP regen. Essentially, they can be killed by a large squad of melees and archers, it will just take a while to do it.
If you have enough heal power and recharge power in your tank party, then you have the ability to grind away on the thing for a long period of time.
Also - because their HP regens slower, if you can do some damage to the thing before getting wiped, you might still be able to get everyone rezzed and rebuffed and finish the thing off on your second try. (This wasn't possible in C4, usually the RB would be regenned to full before you could rez and rebuff.)
As for drops...2 NM helms, Draconic Leather Gloves, lots of orbs, and keymats for armors and weapons from bosses ranging from level 65 to 78. Yes, this since c5 came out only.
Oh but you cant kill the RBS! You get wipz0red and what not. And killing them is not profitable, geez, only 55k exp from Lilith. Why you killing it?! (Dum di dum, some people are so fun to imitate :P )
Raidbosses can still be killed pretty easily, yeah, not as easily as in C4 the age of RB farming but still it doesnt take rocket science to take one out. And the rewards aint that bad either. I much rather take a chance at getting an A-grade helm than just go and grind and get more exp than I would from the boss. Or get those nifty lvl 11/12 soul crystals, but then again you dont need those if you just use your cc and get one handed to you by the chinese fast delivery.
Thumbs up NCSoft, you made RBs more fun especially for melees since now we actually do something to them other than just keep it stunned or keep it whacking at us so the nukers can toast it in 30 secs.
C5 RB > C3 RB > C4 RB "-farm me for eazy stuffz"
Did three bosses last night with my low level (22) alt and lowbies from my clans academy. Just 1 party was used for the first two and 3 extra for the 3rd. All RB's dead, no deaths in party. Amazing xp (I was 20% off 25 after those 3) decent drops. All in all really good fun. Time to try the next level :)
Did 3 raids as well. First no one thought that ikuran could be taken down,but wrong... he was dead in no time :) same for kurubos,and bifrons. All lowbie ppl ,i was 17 after the raids i was 19 :P