I have a few questions on these two quests and how they relate to the 3rd class transfer. I'm trying to get this done early since I need a change of pace for XP anyway.
I read a guide for the Spectral Dancer class transfer and it indicated either Alliance would work. Is this also true for the Storm Screamer?
It looks like you have to get the Alliance to level 2 then do another quest: the magical power of water. The way the guide was written (by L2girl) she chose to Ally with Ketra Orcs, got to level 2, then for the magical power of water had to go into the Ketra Orc outpost to talk to Seer Asefe. In the guide she mentioned that avoiding Ketra Orcs was important and tough since they were aggro. My question is: at alliance level 2 the Ketra Orcs should no longer aggro. What am I missing here?
If I Ally with either Ketra Orcs or Varka Silenos now and get the alliance level to 2 will this open up the Magical Power of Water immediately when I'm ready for the class transfer?
It looks like the Magical Power of Water quest is available at level 74. Can I just do this in advance to to get the quest item and hold onto it until level 76?
Is there any advantage / disadvantage associated with either Ketra Orc alliance or Varka Silenos alliance?
I have a few questions on these two quests and how they relate to the 3rd class transfer. I'm trying to get this done early since I need a change of pace for XP anyway.
I read a guide for the Spectral Dancer class transfer and it indicated either Alliance would work. Is this also true for the Storm Screamer?
It looks like you have to get the Alliance to level 2 then do another quest: the magical power of water. The way the guide was written (by L2girl) she chose to Ally with Ketra Orcs, got to level 2, then for the magical power of water had to go into the Ketra Orc outpost to talk to Seer Asefe. In the guide she mentioned that avoiding Ketra Orcs was important and tough since they were aggro. My question is: at alliance level 2 the Ketra Orcs should no longer aggro. What am I missing here?
If I Ally with either Ketra Orcs or Varka Silenos now and get the alliance level to 2 will this open up the Magical Power of Water immediately when I'm ready for the class transfer?
Is there any advantage / disadvantage associated with either Ketra Orc alliance or Varka Silenos alliance?
Glad you like the guide. :)
Either alliance will work. You do need to get Lvl2 in order to move forward. You can start the alliance, then if you don't like the side you're on, you can delete it and all the quest drops, then restart with the other side (again, needing to get up to lvl2 to move forward).
Ok, let me explain the "Power of Water" stuff:
I was allied with the Orcs. I had my clanmate with me and we boxed our buffers. THEY were not allied with the orcs, so THEY drew aggro. I couldn't help kill my allies, nor could I be in a party with them if they killed my orc buddies.
If I went alone, I wouldn't have any problems. BUT I could aggro the animals in the area (Ketra bandersnatch, buffalo, etc). I would need help to kill those, hence dragging clannies with me. :) I hope that cleared the confusion.
Once you get Alliance Level 2 with either side, go to the messenger again (orc or silenos). When you turn in your badges, you'll automatically be asked to continue to Lvl2 alliance (you don't need to do this for lvl76 quest).
Level 2 will unlock the Magical Power of Water/Magical Power of Fire quests. You select these from the messenger's quest list yourself. It does not automatically appear in your quest log.
I did my Spectral Dancer quest allied to the orcs (fighting Silenos). After i was an SD, I dropped it and started over as an ally to the Silenos. I did this because the Orc Shaman dropped spellbooks we needed. :)
While you can ally either side it's easier to do sneak into the orc camp versus the silenos camp to ninja the box. This is because there's a huge land bridge type thing running from the road outside Goddard almost to the orc town. From there the path is usually clear of orcs and sometimes animals as well. If you have an entourage then it doesn't matter which side you ally.
Call me dense but I always try to solo quests that don't benefit my friends or clan. So my plan was to try to solo (parts I will duo with my SE) the Alliance quest to get to Alliance level 2. Is this doable? It looks like to get to Alliance level 2 you have to kill group mobs that occur in a group of 3. Are the Silenos / Orcs 2X or 4X HP? I've never gone in there before but probably will next time I log in.
My plan was to choose Alliance with Ketra Orcs (so I will be hunting the Varka Silenos mobs).
For the level 1 Alliance I only need to kill the Varka mobs that are solo right? So this should go pretty easy.
For the level 2 Alliance I have to kill some group mobs. Here is the plan:
1> Sleep one of the group mobs.
2> Fear the other one
3> If 2X mob just blast away, if 4X have the SE root it
4> Repeat on the Feared mob
5> Repeat on the Slept mob
I also heard the mobs can petrify? So, I'm not sure but maybe I need to cast Silence on them? Which ones do Petrify? Or is it rare enough that I don't cast Silence and rely on my SE to Purify me if it happens?
It looks like I need to do this 100 times. Are the drops every mob for the Alliance quest?
After finishing the level 2 Alliance I plan to solo the next part since I no longer have aggro in the Ketra Orc Outpost so I was going to just run in and open the box.
You can go into the stronghold and find solo mobs that will give you captain badges to get to lvl 2. You can get all the way to the end of lvl 3 before you will need help with the raid boss to actually get lvl 4 alliance
As far as I know they only petrify if you are allied and give heals/buffs to the enemy but not be grouped with the enemy. For example my SE is allied with the orcs but my nuker is allied with the goats. I can safely bring my SE with me to kill orcs as long as she's not in party. If while taking aggro the SE heals or buffs she gets petrified. Note that the animals will still attack the SE.
For captains badges you can do the group mobs or go deeper in for solo mobs.
And i take that the ketra warhounds dont aggro if you are allied then? Only 1 more lvl till 74 so i need to start getting a clue. hehe well i think i understand most about the ally thing though, cant remember if i seen this though are the drop rate on the eh badges high or low?
So I allied the Ketra Orcs last night and went in solo (but with full SE buffs) to hunt the Varkas. It went pretty well. Sadly, though, the Canyon Antelopes are 2X HP and strong Mdef so really, really MP inefficient :( The Varkas were pretty good though - 4 shots to kill and about 16K to 22K XP. For a brief period of time I had a duo with a tank and it went a lot smoother with faster kill rate so XP was better.
Overall, this looks doable solo but is better in a duo or small group for XP.