eeeeh? dusk won?

Franz Started Last reply 23 posts
first time i have ever seen that happening. and two people i know that used to play on other servers than me have never seen that before either =/
Dawn only benefits castle owners. Unless you plan on tagging up with the NPCs it would've been a good idea to choose Dusk. To be perfectly honest - only the ignorant and the stupid chose Dawn. Hopefully the debuffs will encourage you to read into the seven signs event a little deeper.
/agree with badguy

dont do something just cause thats what your used too, new server means new strategy.
Come to Lionna.


Dusk wins one week. Dawn wins the next. Been going on like that for quite a while now... real nice.

I also suspect it will be like this a lot for the first few months Franz is around.

Come to Lionna.


Dusk wins one week. Dawn wins the next. Been going on like that for quite a while now... real nice.

I also suspect it will be like this a lot for the first few

months Franz is around.



Doesn't really happen like that on Lionna lol.
most servers are already established and have a castle hold clan/alliance that is dominate and can keep the seals the way the want them - welcome to Franz where no one owns a castle yet and when they do - we'll see what happens
will be intersting to see who get the first castles.
Yeah, on Lionna things are second to TrueLies (Leader of Invencible Clan Bot Owner´s Leader) dictate... no real fair chance to nobody in that server. You must to be stupid to keep playing in that server if you wanna to see your Clan doing something for good.

Thanks God for Franz and NO-HIGH-LVL-SUPPORT-BACKBONE server arrival. :cool:
You'll be happy to know that TrueLies has rerolled ot Franz then...LOL.

Yeah, on Lionna things are second to TrueLies (Leader of Invencible Clan Bot Owner´s Leader) dictate... no real fair chance to nobody in that server.


You don't really know much about the seal fight on Lionna. CHAOS dictates which way the server goes, Dusk or Dawn. Invincible may try to, but in reality only do so if Chaos doesn't challenge them. Chaos fields dedicated Festival groups at each level (ok, their 53- has no depth) ... all with uber glowy weapons, uber gear, uber scrolls, adena dripping from their fingers .... etc etc. Invincible can take unlimited, but they cannot consistently take any other level of Festival.

There isn't a primary clan in either alliance that owns a castle (Mirage doesn't count as Invincible) ... they belong to alt clans that don't care if they lose Rep points. The primary clans don't need the castles, they pass around heroes like a used hanky. They filter the money from the alt clans for the castles and shelter themselves from potential rep loss while keeping the income flowing.

You'll be happy to know that TrueLies has rerolled ot Franz then...LOL.



Humm... interesting... I was wondering why so many automatic one´s around already... :)


You'll be happy to know that TrueLies has rerolled ot Franz then...LOL.


Humm... interesting... I was wondering why so many automatic one´s around already... :)

Oddly enough ... none of them are his! :eek: although they do drop good stuff (from what I've heard).

You don't really know much about the seal fight on Lionna. CHAOS dictates which way the server goes, Dusk or Dawn. Invincible may try to, but in reality only do so if Chaos doesn't challenge them. Chaos fields dedicated Festival groups at each level (ok, their 53- has no depth) ... all with uber glowy weapons, uber gear, uber scrolls, adena dripping from their fingers .... etc etc. Invincible can take unlimited, but they cannot consistently take any other level of Festival.



Oh really? And you also believe in Santa? Dude, get real... this is not about who controls the Festival´s or not, this is all about ADENAS and REAL MONEY. I am not a big fan of Chaos myself, but if those guys really did something to OE their gears, good for them; but for sure not without some credit card at hand again.

Don´t tell me what I know or what I don´t know about Lionna. Everything that I know for sure is this: try to kill an automatic group of "players" inside of any Cata/Necro in Lionna server, and see what happens -> in a matter of SECONDS you and your LEGITIMATE companions will be zerged by a train of "Bot nanny´s", and guess what ally crest will you see?

I am LMAO here. Again, thanks God for a new server. It´s a refresh for awhile, but we know that the REAL problem is still here.

It´s a SHAME to have such kind of "players" in such full of fun game. And they have the guts to call themselves "good players"... imo it´s not their fault at the end of it all, but this endless bot/e-bayer´s situation. Greedy and Laziness are capital sins for a reason...
I'm not a member or a fan of either side ... nor am I a "Dude". I'm a rabid neutral on Lionna, also playing on Franz. Both Lionna major factions use methods not within the boundaries of this forum discussion to futher their ends. If you think that only one side is moving the money, you're the one who believes in Santa ... Let's stay away from personal insults OK?

All it takes is watching a Festival to see where the money is being made and paid for (both sides, one just glows brighter). They're things of beauty to see done well ... but the teams (on both sides) would be impossible for anyone to do without assistance. These are throwaway toons designed to play for 18 minutes every 2 weeks. I have 1 tweaked lvl 31 and 1 tweaked lvl 52 that play in festivals. But I'm an alt-crazed maniac who loves Festivals. Very few people will pull resources from their mains to tweak out a toon to play for 18 minutes every 2 weeks.

Looking at the bar charts will tell you nothing.

Adena and sealstones alone cannot win. You must control a certain number of festivals. BOTH sides pour stones into the pot when the competition heats up. Chaos can throw enough of the sealstones into the pot to keep it from being the deal breaker AND take the festivals at will. They have proven this over and over.

I've also killed strangely coordinated groups and within SECONDS have been PK'd by ... guess who ?!? ... BOTH SIDES! what an unusual coincidence! It just depends on which cat or necro you are in as to which side is the enforcer. If you aren't seeing both sides, you need to travel more and play with groups across Aden ... then check the ally tag.

Ask TL ... he will tell you flat out that Invincible cannot beat Chaos at the FoD's at this time (and then add in a ton of spin but thats another conversation) ... Chaos out monied the server to design select toons at select levels AND enough sealstones. Sealstones will not win it and they never have. Chaos can take 4 of the 5 Festivals ... which overcomes any sealstone imbalance. Look at the sealstone contributions during a competitive week and do the math ... you will see that you usually only need to win 2 of the top 3 levels of Festivals to win the whole thing. If Chaos is being cheap that week, they have to win 4 of the 5 ...

ERGO ...the side that can make it change, rules the Dusk/Dawn flip and that is Chaos. When Chaos wants it to be Dusk ... its Dusk on Lionna. When Chaos doesn't care ... its Dawn (because the castle owners will throw together enough teams to limp through the festivals). But this isn't the Lionna forum, its Franz.

Back to Franz discussion ... start a pool on how fast Franz becomes bi-polar.

I'm not a member or a fan of either side ... nor am I a "Dude". I'm a rabid neutral on Lionna, also playing on Franz. Both Lionna major factions use methods not within the boundaries of this forum discussion to futher their ends. If you think that only one side is moving the money, you're the one who believes in Santa ... Let's stay away from personal insults OK?



I am really sry if you felt insulted in any way Sr. That was never my intention, and for sure this is not the apropriated mood for this community.

I think that you´he losted me along the way in my post, or maybe had your vision blured by something else, but If you read me carefully you will see that IMO BOTH sides got their hands dirty on this matter.

Anyway, in one thing we both agree, this is more for Lionna threads and not for Franz. And for me and my Clannies Lionna was a terrible mystake that is now in the past, and is a lesson well to be learned about how bad this BOT/E-bayer´s problem can get. Makes me sick just to think about the time we had spent there, and the rerolling time for the hole Clan here at Franz.

Back to Franz, yes, I think it will be really interesting to see how the currents will shift here between Dusk and Dawn in a brand new server. It´s good to have this feeling back :cool:
I actually hope that Franz along with every other server has a lot more competition in the 7 signs. The lack of competition is the main reason we haven't had the 4 remaining seals added into the game yet. I'd like to see those some time soon to be perfectly honest.

As for money spent on seal stones, doubt either side ever bought adena in a planned way to win. there's so much other legitimate in game resource there ot avoid that. Although I don't doubt perhaps a few individuals when they knew that Dusk would win the first time, or that the winning Cabal was going to change "invested" in buying a large amount of seal stones or AA in the knowledge that the following few weeks, the AA/Seal Stone price would increase, and therefore they would profit from that. not me though, I got other stuff to waste my money on lol.

I dob't you'll see major competition until sides are formed and the first castles are taken on Franz. Hopefully it ends up less monotonous for you guys than on every other server in NA lol
Can someone explain to me the change occurred to the Seven Signs with the latest chronicle?

What exactly a player from the last competition winning side can't do anymore? I don't get it.

I read it should prevent things like those servers where one faction has 99% every week. Does it work?

Thanks God for Franz and NO-HIGH-LVL-SUPPORT-BACKBONE server arrival.



What you talking about? My 3 buffers are already 60ish and now I'm leveling the warsmith with 3 buffers OOP. When that hits 55 I'll level a nuker and will party the buffers when it gets to the right level.
i bet you have no life :) :p or well.... yea you know haha
Please ignore the rantings of stupid house mates that hijack your account while you're logged in. Looks like someone is going to get firecrackers in bed tonight. :D It's so much better than turning off the valve to the hot water or turning off the water altogether.
Looks like no one here have a single clue about this... but I still need to know about the changes occurred to the Seven Signs with the latest chronicle.

What exactly a player from the last competition winning side can't do anymore? I don't get it.

I read it should prevent things like those servers where one faction has 99% every week. Does it work?
When a player from the winning side of the previous period tries to join the same group through a priest, the previously-deposited Seal Stones are automatically settled as Ancient Adena. By doing this, even though the player from the winning side joins the same group in the next competition period, the previous Seal Stones score will not accumulate.

During the seal validation period, the defeated side and players who have not rejoined may now enter the Dimensional Rift through the Gate Keeper Ziggurat at the entrance of the Seven Signs common dungeons. An amount of Adena must be paid.

When attempting to join a group through a priest during a competition period and if the player’s inventory weight/quantity is at 80% and above, he/she cannot join.

thats what they changed in c5
That's what is written in the C5 patch notes, and I already read it.

Maybe because I am a noob, but I can't understand what that means exactly. Why should the Seal Stone score accumulate in the first place?
Where's the point of a competition if the sides don't start as equals?

Any by the way point of my question was to understand if you (all) consider this change enough to balance things, given the ridicolously exploited competition on some server where everyone use to join the winning side.