Archer questions

Difference between archers?
HE = more hps, more general damage, lowest crit rate etcslower to run/fire?
PR = low hps high crit rate and offensive abilites
SR = fast run/fire but low crit rate and defense abilites

when getting c grade does the +4str from PL set add to bow damage?

Cheers

Sorry for the questions there used to be loads of stuff on archers on various boards but most seem to have gone.

str increases your general damage output, so yes it would work with your bow. the pl set is great for archers; unfortunately with the boots costing 6m it is a bit out of range for many of the new up and comings, at least on bartz.

Its a good set for boosting your attack speed, but its expensive.

Your description of all archers seems accurate to me.

Your description of all archers seems accurate to me.

Your jokeing right?

HE = Highest attack speed, highest HP, good crit rate, strong crit damage, lowest run speed (appart from when Dash is activated), highest accuracy (with Hawkeye skill)

PR = highest Patk, highest crit damage, lowest crit rate, lowest hp, some self buffs

SR = highest crit rate, highest run speed, good accuracy, self buffs

Things to note tho, while the PR has the lowest crit rate of the 3 its not by much, and fully buffed a PR and HE won't notice much difference in their damage. HE also has snipe while prevents movement, but attack speed, patk, crit rate and dmg go up.

Don't forget the C5 skills.

SR get Rapid Fire that increase atk speed about 20%, +100ish (?) patk and lower range to 600, I've seen 1k atk speed on SR's with boss jewels.. oO;;

PR get Dead Eye increase patk about 200 (?) and Crit dmg but lower atk speed, some say it's the worst of the 3 skill boosts/adds for archers in C5, I dunno.

HE get increased accuracy, patk 199, critical and range with Snipe, but get rooted, a PvE and Siege skill.

They're all good archers, just slightly different style :)

Difference between archers?
HE = more hps, more general damage, lowest crit rate etcslower to run/fire?
PR = low hps high crit rate and offensive abilites
SR = fast run/fire but low crit rate and defense abilites

when getting c grade does the +4str from PL set add to bow damage?

Cheers

Sorry for the questions there used to be loads of stuff on archers on various boards but most seem to have gone.

LMAO at your discriptions.

SR: fastest atk speed, best crt rate, lowest dmg(out side of crts). has self buffs. no crt Power passives but 2 crt chance ones.

PR: slowest atk speed(skill effects this), highest dmg out put, Hex, M atks, debuffs, BtM.

HE: fast atk speed, good crt rate, crt dmg passives, has snipe which puts your range to 1200 and ups P atk/ acc/ crt rate...you can't move while in effect simi long cool down.(snipe last 2 minutes; cool down with blessing of sag. makes it about 1 minute later.)
gets BtM, bouth the SR and the PR's active skills(C5 new skill) and can carry alot more stuff. better stats to fool around with.

The HE can really boost his P atk to be just about as high as the PR. and gets stuned far less then the PR does.

Your description of all archers seems accurate to me.

Your jokeing right?

HE = Highest attack speed, highest HP, good crit rate, strong crit damage, lowest run speed (appart from when Dash is

activated), highest accuracy (with Hawkeye skill)

PR = highest Patk, highest crit damage, lowest crit rate, lowest hp, some self buffs

SR = highest crit rate, highest run speed, good accuracy, self buffs

Things to note tho, while the PR has the lowest crit rate of the 3 its not by much, and fully buffed a PR and HE won't notice much difference in their damage. HE also has snipe while prevents movement, but attack speed, patk, crit rate and dmg go up.



Use your own words against yourself.

Your joking right?
Stick with your SH your knowledge on archers are way out of wack.

Snipe increased attack speed? LOL news to me!

Hawk eye does not have the highest attack speed either bud. Check out SR's especially with there rapid fire that they have now.

Hmm, don't let sigs fool you, my SH was only made after I couldnt find a sub I liked on my Moonlight Sentinal. My descriptions was based mostly on C4, as I havnt played C5 on an archer... so am not familiar with the skills. I always thought HE had a slightly faster attack speed due to the boost attack speed passive.

And oops... one mistake on snipe, why didn’t you just say instead of trying to flame? HE is the archer I have least familiarity with, the other two I’ve played myself.

Oh and noones mentioned evasion, SR>PR>HE on that one.

Oh and noones mentioned evasion, SR>PR>HE on that one.

my HE has same eva at 56 as acc. cerrently 97 eva/acc. tho I can boost acc..I can't boost eva with out passives and agility.(+2 dex and doom LA)

Oh and noones mentioned evasion, SR>PR>HE on that one.

my HE has same eva at 56 as acc. cerrently 97 eva/acc. tho I can boost acc..I can't boost eva with out passives and agility.(+2 dex and doom LA)



You ahve to compare with same tatoos ;) SR and PR have better evasion than the HE, by 2-3 points.

Oh and noones mentioned evasion, SR>PR>HE on that one.

my HE has same eva at 56 as acc. cerrently 97 eva/acc. tho I can boost acc..I can't boost eva with out passives and agility.(+2 dex and doom LA)



You ahve to compare with same tatoos ;) SR and PR have better evasion than the HE, by 2-3 points.



I did what I did to my toon to get a specaific effect out of it.

mostly the stat chances with my tattoos and amor bonus. it's set for PvE with otu neirfing my CON all to hell.

with my bonus I get 35 dex, 43 str, and 37(?) CON. I use doom LA. and got a +5 BoP. base is 30 dex, 40 str, and 43 con. doom gives -1 str +3 dex -2 con.

My P atk is over 1200 with buffs. over 1300-1400 with GM. I have a lvl 75 SE and I'm going to be puting QR on my BoP.

With the herbs I hit close to 1400 P atk with out GM, and can solo none stop with out needing my SE all that much. (don't have pain yet)

My crts are very good and my eva is nice. I do get hit quite often but if I'm stuned I tend to evade quite often.

on the orcs in Cem I would 1 hit crt them with the herbs and zerk GM 1 sometimes GM 2.(depends what friend s on that I get PP buffs from)

I moved on I was duoing the ponghorns in FL but them guys hurt, and they stun. but I can usely kill them fairly easily if I crt, my crts to them does about 85% dmg so they still need another hit to finsh them off, I didn't have herb or PP buffs. when I did get herbs I still needed 1 more hit cause it would do about 98% dmg.


But the XP from them guys are awesome. The ponghorns. spoils are decent, but no SB drops.

my DMG is as good as a PR, and better then a SR.

Not sure what you're trying to say.. Oo;;;

Not sure what you're trying to say.. Oo;;;

a comparison to what my class.. or my toon is compared to that of the SR or PR class as a archer type player.

I'm simply stating what it is that I have done to aspartame a desired result; which various from what other players would tend to do with their own class.

So I'm saying that My HE has a different set up then what maybe 1/2 of the other typical HE class set theirs up VS. SR or PR.

I also wanted to clear up why my stats was 97/97.(until HE and acc are in effect)

SR: fastest atk speed, best crt rate, lowest dmg(out side of crts). has self buffs. no crt Power passives but 2 crt chance ones.

HE is fastest attack speed, because they get 1 level of boost attack speed passive.

SR: fastest atk speed, best crt rate, lowest dmg(out side of crts). has self buffs. no crt Power passives but 2 crt chance ones.

HE is fastest attack speed, because they get 1 level of boost attack speed passive.



your wrong SR is fastest cause of:

base dex 35, add +5 dex and doom light, that 35 is now 43.

add to that, QR SA.

rapid fire self buff: lowers range to 600 ups atk speed, and something else; crt chance I think.

then give them clan skills, and haste, zerk buffs. and BD furry.

SR is the fastest puller, how ever: if he has draco set hes going to have slightly faster atk speed then if in mejestic light.

no way that a HE can hit the speed boosted as much as the SR could get...even with the passive "boost atk speed".

rapid fire gives a rather moderate decrease in range, while snipe gives a nice increase though. that also counts for somethiong (neither are that useful in open pvp)

With same tats and NO rapid fire, HE does have neglibly higher attack speed, even with 5 dex less than SR, it's like only a 3 points difference :p Doesn't even matter. What does matter is slow or very slow bows when you use skills.