I just started playing 2 orcs - a mystic and a fighter. I'm rather at a loss as to what to do with them though.
Fighter - Destroyer or Tyrant? Which is the better DD. It looks like the Destroyer, but the Tyrant looks like it'd be a nice DD (even if you only get Light armor). I'm mostly looking for something that is a decent DD since I'll be soloing (with the mystic) anytime my frinds arn't around.
Mystic - OL or WC. That's a tough choice. Both get similar buffs, but OL buffs the entire clan....WC only does party buffs. Hrm...so my question with this one is...if you have an OL...will it buff everyone in the *party* as well as the clan, or does it only buff the clan...period?
Please give some guidance all you orc lovers out there. I know there are lots of you!
I just started playing 2 orcs - a mystic and a fighter. I'm rather at a loss as to what to do with them though.
Fighter - Destroyer or Tyrant? Which is the better DD. It looks like the Destroyer, but the Tyrant looks like it'd be a nice DD (even if you only get Light armor). I'm mostly looking for something that is a decent DD since I'll be soloing (with the mystic) anytime my frinds arn't around.
Mystic - OL or WC. That's a tough choice. Both get similar buffs, but OL buffs the entire clan....WC only does party buffs. Hrm...so my question with this one is...if you have an OL...will it buff everyone in the *party* as well as the clan, or does it only buff the clan...period?
Please give some guidance all you orc lovers out there. I know there are lots of you!
thanks,
Fox
OL is for clan/ally buffing and CP heals later lvls, HP heals the whole ally, and gets debuffs. AoE type.
WC is ment for parties, but they don't get alot of their buffs maxed out till later lvls. whilest specaillied classes like PP and SE get their's maxed at 56, cept for a few new or specail buffs.
I like tryants cause they are cool, and only class that get fist.
Warcryer's are always fun to have around because they are good for faster buffing instead of waiting for a PP or SE or EE to buff each person individually. With a WC you can find party's pretty easily because u can double as a DD if equiped properly.
For OL you would need to find a good clan that will make use of your skills otherwise they will just float out to sea and do nothing.
The Destroyer is a tank type. Very robust,but not a true DD. The Tyrant is a DD.
I like to classify the Destroyer as a dd in a way. They are very good for pole party's because of the huge dmg they do with the polearms and if they have VR ^^^.. Well your flying then.
Destroyer not a DD? Tell that to the mobs.... Espcially when he is low on hp.... Destroyers can do insane damage and have tremendous staying power. IMO a very good solo/duo class. Arm them with a twohanded weapon and Rock and Roll.
But the destroyer fails into the tank role because they get more HP and heavy armor. While the tyrant fails into the role of DD because they get light armor and evasion skills.
Destroyer isnt a tank. It's more like that mashine that flatens asfalt on the streets. Yes, it's big and heavy but it's also more about spreading into a thin layer what ever comes into it's way then about being strudy and durable.
The destroyer is the closest thing to a tank for the orc race.
The best part of the Orcen race is that they do not have 'normal' classes. It is not the Orcish clone of a healer/dagger/tank. No the classes are unique and that is great.
Do not say the Destroyer is a tank. He is not. He lacks things like UD, Hate, shield masteries and the like. But he does when you compare him to a real tank, loads of damage.
Then WC and OL are tanks also? Oh, and OL can have way more pdef then a destro.
Splater, for higher lvls hate is as important as the pdef. And the "real tanks" got more pdef then destro does. And they also got shield block skills which increase their pdef even more.
Destroyer wonderful....tyrant is great and fun toon to play as well. as far as "tank" like or "not tank like" yes i would say the destroyer is more tank like but on the efforts of tankish compared to real tank classes no sir.....destroyers make way better DD's than tanks in reference to "real tanks". i dont really know of a tank with a p-atk of 2k+....OL's and WC are not really my specialty...they sure are neat though :O) uber ally buffs
Im an orc lover. So i have a lvl 60+ WC and now im doing a Tyrant. OLs are clan/ally buffers and AoE mages. WCs are party buffers and can be nice DDs if equiped properly (mine has a Dark Crystal Light set and one Bloody Orchid) but this is only for PVE. ;)
Destroyers are warrior type fighters, not real tanks, not real DDs just Destroyers. :D
Tyrants are my kind of class, pure DDs so forget the tank crap with them. Uber attack speed and speed considering he's an Orc. Both Destroyers and Tyrants need quite some skill to play. Not like archers (/target -> stun -> shoot -> shoot) nor like daggers (F1->F2->F3 spam skills). :p
Well this is all i know but im sure everyone has its own personal opinion. :p
I think maybe you're all forgetting what "tank" means....
Standing in front of mobs, slugging away at them, as opposed to taking things out at a range, or hitting them moving away and hitting again (kite).
Any class that slugs it out toe-to-toe is a tank...... which is better ? ..... that's the question.
Where did this definition of tank come from? Basically everyone who fights in melee range and doesn't kite is a tank? No we call those 'melee'. Tanks are famous for their armor, not their ability to 'slug it out'. In fact in most MMOs the tank could use a wet noodle as a weapon and a lot of groups wouldn't really care, as long as the tank maintains agro, in other words makes use of his/her superior armor for the group's benefit.
Dont give up on the destroyer yet. I play a destroyer and have a OL alt for fun.
About the Overlord. You can solo with it believe it or not. It is great for pole parties with their seal spells. If you have a good ally or clan you will be utilized a lot. You can buff around 40 clan/ally mates just with being in range and heal them and their cp as well. If you want to do small parties and dont think you will join a big clan then WC is the way to go. My destroyer and my buddy who is a wc duo all the time.
As for the destroyer. The classification of tank in this game means having hate. We dont have it however it doesnt mean you cant tank for your party. The uber hp and pdef makes destroyers superb dd's and party "tanks". You will be very hard to kill and can often save your party if things go bad. You have the option to do regular parties with either a two handed sword (best way) or to use a blunt. Or you can do pole parties that absolutely rock. In a pole party if mobs start to attack others just hit rage and whirlwind and waala the mobs come running back to you. If you hp gets low you can use guts which is like ultimate defense making your pdef jump almost 3X the number. Or you can use frenzy and mow down the mobs. Have to be careful in your selection though. The best is being able to use frenzy then hit battleroar and gaining 2k hp. Saved me many times. With c5 zealot came out. Zealot is awesome for catching people when your hp gets low. Pop a ww2 pot and activate it and you run **** fast. Also destroyers got a new pole skill and a anti stun skill. All and all we are a very rounded class for pve. As for pvp that skill you will have to develop to get good at.
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