GMs, PROGRAMERS...: GLADIATOR: THE GREAT FORGOTEN

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First, sorry for my English. Gladiator one of the pjs more forgoten in all chronicles (including C5 his best chronicle), less charges?? No problem the tanks can root, more stun, more life, more p.def, ultimate defense…. SK anchor , hex, freezing strike….. pfffffffffff DA panther…pfffffff

Mages?? Lol m def of gladiator? Loooooolll………. Llllllloooooooooollllllllll!!!!

Rogues? No problem specials can quit 2000, 3000, 5000 hp, instant kill cp=1 hp=1 ultimate evasion, dash , run many more, critical pasives…..

Gladis can stun is true but only with blunt not duals, not practice, the tyrant can stunt with fist, run more , more atk. Speed., totems …….

Triple sonic? Is a good hit but with my glad lvl 75 hit over 900, 1200 hp for hit critical damage? Less chance and over 1900 hp or 1500 hp to a tank delay 15s +/- and 163mp cost, remember tresures hunters and his posibles damages?? And without charges

Speed of gladiator? Lool 130 with windwalk 164 with a tattoo +4 dex, mmm bye bye archers, rogues, and mages? perhaps. Life? 4100hp lvl 75 without weapon with health, duelist 1minute pffff, warcry 1 minute pffff what a selfbuff!! Revival? Oh but revival it’s a skill of warlord it’s true xDD.

And many things. Oh! important with the chrono maracas and duals sls for example make = damage with triple sonic +/- without soulshots, the p.atak is not important for the skill no? ok ok(ironic). And many more things. I try to be objective.


One of more estetics pjs, and make this, one of two pjs can use dual swords and make this. I hope this change.

Thank you for your attention, and sorry for my english again.
get level 78. then you will be awesome.
Hi gladiator, I'm a warlord.
I can't use skills when I'm red. I lose.
lol warlord is probably the only class that cannot beat a single other class in olympiad.

glad is BEST class for olympiad btw. (at 78)
I don't say the glad is the worse pj, i simply say it's 1 of more forgotten, at lvl 78 are many goods pjs ok, this game is for mages archers and daggers basicly, but in less lvl r best pj in comparation with glad. My idea is only to be objective, no more.Someone is withme others no. It's only a opinion.

lol warlord is probably the only class that cannot beat a single other class in olympiad.

glad is BEST class for olympiad btw. (at 78)



they are good, and fairly hard to beat in olympiad, but they are NOT the best.
1) Don't use capitals in titles, it just irritates people and makes them want to pk you

2) Gladiators have tons of skills to play with and are a fun class all in all. For sieges you aren't the best, but in arena/ganking you can hold your own. You have 2 choices: Sub another class and never return to your gladiator or get to 78 and pawn people.
Didn't glads get the most skills last chronicle?
Actually Paladins did. Glads mostly got improvements to their existing skills. Before C5, I would agree that Glads needed more - after C5 i think theyre ok.
Ever since C5 launched, the way I used Triple Slash had to be adjusted. MP cost is not as valuble as DSS,but the plus side to it is that it doesnt use stones or charges like the other skills, I wont go into details on how to use it effectivly but it is useful.
at 75 you hit on a triple sonic for 900?...im lvl 74 and I hit for over 2k, not criting, hell I one-shot a lvl 76 EE the other day (7k dmg) since c5 came out, ive been able to kill daggers before they got within range of me, yesterday I 2-shot an HE, and survived getting attacked by 3 others. I guess its all in how you play your char.

I will admit Gladiators have been getting the short end of the stick, along with dwarves, and warlords for 4 chronicles, but with the changes in C5 we at least have a chance in pvp, not much vs. a mage who crits you, but its a start. with my setup, I have 2k+ patk and 172 run speed now the run speed is as fast as mages, and you can stay within range of archers to kill them.

as for tattoos, and the old con vs. patk argument? With the changes in C5 all setups can work, play what you feel comfortable.
You know after re-reading his post I sure hope he meant Triple Slash and not TSS. To TSS for 900 at 75+ you'd have to be using NG duals :P

You know after re-reading his post I sure hope he meant Triple Slash and not TSS. To TSS for 900 at 75+ you'd have to be using NG duals :P



I agree, but even triple slash should be more than that

lol warlord is probably the only class that cannot beat a single other class in olympiad.



I remember the first olympiad game on Devianne, a warcrier or OL lost to a Warlord - because they were unprepared and ran OOM self-buffing. I still snicker at this. xD
I think Tripple Slash is the worst skill of a Gladi. The MP usage is basicly the same as sonic storm. Sonic storm does hell alot more damage, has 500 range, can crit, doesnt use charges but 3 stones.
Be happy glads are slightly forgotten, lol, not directly and indirectly nerfed through all chronicles like us dorfs lol, but yeah gladdies have gotten one of the shorter ends of the sticks is true

lol warlord is probably the only class that cannot beat a single other class in olympiad.

glad is BEST class for olympiad btw. (at 78)



Can a SE or Bishop beat a Warlord? How about a Bounty Hunter?

Can a SE or Bishop beat a Warlord? How about a Bounty Hunter?



I think the most common misconception is that warlords get better patk with polearms than other classes do with their weapons.

A Bounty hunter has faster attack speed (Polearm=Normal, Blunt=Fast), better accuracy, same patk, uses less mp to stun, has a shield, and has all the polearm attacks a warlord does except thunderstorm. Blunt stuns are better than thunderstorm for single targets.

I do get a few more doohickeys to play with, but the mana consumption on thunderstorm is so great that it's not a good idea to use toggles.

So yes, the odds are usually against me if I'm fighting a BH.

But then again I don't set out to 1v1. I'm not a 1v1 class. My biggest buzz comes from just thunderstorming 4 archers and 2 nukers in pvp while my archers and nukers do the rest of the work.

I've had SE's and bishops attack me but I've never killed any. I might have won but they bsoe'd or returned on me.
I have no mdef passives (or actives, for that matter), so I'm very susceptable to root and slow, even with lionheart on.

Hi gladiator, I'm a warlord.
I can't use skills when I'm red. I lose.



Sad but true. :(

Be happy glads are slightly forgotten, lol, not directly and indirectly nerfed through all chronicles like us dorfs lol, but yeah gladdies have gotten one of the shorter ends of the sticks is true



Actually when they sought to nerf daggers in C2, they nerfed glads also, and since we were never as good as daggers, we got it worse.

When every class in C3 got new skills and glads didn't, that was a nerf to us too.

When every class in C4 got new skills and glads didn't, that was a nerf to us too.

And whoever said we got the most skills in C5, we only got one, and so far as i can tell it does more harm to our mp than it helps.

The changes to the charge system only solved one count 'em 1 of the multitude of issues with our class. . . like why can a C5 destroyer run circles around us while 2 shotting us with crits?

Neways, This guy is right, this game is for mages and archers (focus SA on an S grade bow??. . .fo real!!??), the rest of us are just here for their target practice, and every once in a while they dont see us coming and we get a lucky drop.

I think Tripple Slash is the worst skill of a Gladi. The MP usage is basicly the same as sonic storm. Sonic storm does hell alot more damage, has 500 range, can crit, doesnt use charges but 3 stones.



umm triple slash dosent use charges, and can crit also, if you use your skills correctly in a pvp fight you would only have to charge up 9 times (once fully, then 2 charges after using sonic blaster to get back to full) then you wouldnt have to charge again, cause you would either be dead, or they would be dead.

And whoever said we got the most skills in C5, we only got one, and so far as i can tell it does more harm to our mp than it helps.



lol yeah we get a skill that gives us a resistance to sleep, in the same chronicle they severely nerf sleep and make it useless...well that was a waste of sp to learn

umm triple slash dosent use charges, and can crit also, if you use your skills correctly in a pvp fight you would only have to charge up 9 times (once fully, then 2 charges after using sonic blaster to get back to full) then you wouldnt have to charge again, cause you would either be dead, or they would be dead.


This is copied from the skills database

Inflicts 3 quick slashes on opponent. An equipped dual-sword weapon is required to use this skill. Shield defense is ignored. Over-hit is possible. Power 2131.


Note the part where it lacks the words "A critical hit is possible"?

I tend to open with Sonic storm and folow it by blaster. Its a fast 3k damage on robe users and even more if they crit (which they do alot). TS is a waiste of MP IMO. If I were in melee range I would spamm buster since it has a faster recharge and doesnt consume charges either.


lol yeah we get a skill that gives us a resistance to sleep, in the same chronicle they severely nerf sleep and make it useless...well that was a waste of sp to learn



I believe the skill also gives resistance to Trance.

It's really only nuker sleep that was nerfed; the EE and Bishop, who also got sleep, get trance instead.