I'm interested in making a tank and was wondering which is better when it comes to tanking, PvP, and PvE...Shillien Knight or the Dark Avenger?
I appreciate the input for i have a 15 dark fighter and a 15 human fighter and wanted to get some more info to help me decide which one to keep playing hehe :p
Shillien Knight is actually more of a hybrid between summoning cubics, tanking abilities and use of attack magic. It's a really fun class, hits hard, but is relatively vulnerable to stun and has the lowest HP of all tanks. If I'm not mistaken even a TK has more base CON then an SK.
A DA is a pure tank and has less skills to choose from when playing, they have more HP then the SK and their panther is a nice trick in PvP when he doesn't die instantly. You can see it as a buffer really.
An SK will have paralyze and freezing strike attacks in PvP, while the DA has not.
I'd pick an SK over a DA in C5 if it came to trying to recruit, or any party really.
I prefer SKs playing style also. More fun and more evil :p But tanking.. dont know, I've played high lvl SK and I did good, but didnt have others to compare. In pvp.. SK can surprise ;)
I agree with the posts above. I really like my SK, low lvl tanking is doable in the cata/necro, but high lvl, you're mainly a secondary tank. Agree with the low con, shock/stun issues, but overall a really fun class to play, many varieties and options to choose from.
As oEliinao mentions, a well played SK can really surprise many in PvP.
A Dark Avenger is a Safe choice when picking a Tank, Balanced stats for their purpose, having good STR & CON. Their Summon is used more in PvP due to the XP sharing, but a nice addition to have. When I think of a DA in the group, I think of someone who is going to keep everyone safe with relative ease. (Lets hope the guy controlling its good too lol) A few Magic attacks as well as status altering is known, but they are mainly for PvP. A DA is great for when things go wrong, being able to take alot of dmg.
The SK is best described as the Magic Tank, having a vast array of Skills & Spells that can alter stats as well as do dmg, or dmg & retun HP. Its worth noting that the best thing about the SK is their high STR, meaning they can contribute a pretty good amount dmg wise. (Remember we're all about killing fast for best xp per hour) And with nearly every group having either a WC/SE (Real or Boxed) to give VR, this Tank isnt one to die fast. The only difference with an SK is that you have to pay attention to your HP, and get healed a little bit more then usual if a 3+ mob group is pulled by accident. And i still havent mentioned Cubics ^^.
All togeather, the DA is not superior to the SK, and vice versa, they can do most of the same things, both being Defensive Type Fighters, and having their indivitual perks. The only thing that will put a DA over an SK is the Stun Resist, with the growing number of EE's, thats shouldnt be a huge problem anymore.
The DA & SK arent better then each other, just Different.
I can't tell you which you'll like better--I can tell you which you'll level faster!
There is no comparison between the speed to level 1-30 (at least) between a DE fighter and a human fighter.
The DE, with significantly higher strength, kills faster. The human knight (though I love him as a tank) is PONDEROUS to level solo.
Now that C5 has nerfed the raidbosses I don't know how long it would take a human fighter to solo to 40.
If you can get reliable duos/groups from a clan that would make all the difference.
If you're playing alone, though I think DA is twice the tank that an SK is, the DE will level so much faster it's not even funny.
Human fighters should get a bazooka at level 10 from their weapon quest just to make things fair!
Maline--actually I have two elven scouts over 20. 1 on lionna and 1 on Devianne.
Lmao--I even think THEY leveled faster than the human fighter!
Maybe it's just that now I know what I'm doing and the poor little knight was my first misguided toon--idk.
Maybe it's elfland that's better for low toons. The elven fighters (granted I could put both in bronze with a falchion at lvl 4) seemed to go pretty quick for me.
They have great hunting grounds in the elven forest that can serve them pretty well up to 19.
The only comparable area on TI is the north shore spiders--where a human fighter has to hit like 130 times to kill one.
Even the dwarves level faster for me than the human.
If it wasn't for the fact they get hate and aggression for low raidbosses, human tanks would would worthless through 40.
I can only comment on lower experience since I don't have many toons at C-grade yet (and only 1 at B). I've got a dozen past first class change on 2 servers and I STILL can't face leveling another human fighter.
Lol--the orc mage leveled faster than the human knight!!!! What the heck is up with THAT?
Having levelled all three to 30+....
(without "newbie" benefits, or a 2nd-box buffer, or higher level aid)
None of them are "hard" or remotely close.
Indeed all of them are easy and quite quick.
Every single one of them was about as fast as my Dark Wizard.
40+ this may change, but it is pure bull that an elven knight or human knight is difficult to level to 30ish...
C5 makes this even easier.
As for which is better... SK is more hybrid Damage dealer and less tank... this is not to say he cannot tank, its just that he is less meaty than the DA. I'd say both are equally as good, just different playstyle.
If you want to be a "tank", DA is the way to go. SK is an awesome class on paper, but not really a tank or dd. Lots of magic attacks you can sling around, but is that what you are looking for when playing a tank? A DA's panther is not just for PvP. In C4 they lowered the exp consumption to 15%, and with petshots, your panther is like duoing with a DD your level but lets you keep all the drops and only takes 15% of the exp.
If you want to be a "tank", DA is the way to go. SK is an awesome class on paper, but not really a tank or dd. Lots of magic attacks you can sling around, but is that what you are looking for when playing a tank? A DA's panther is not just for PvP. In C4 they lowered the exp consumption to 15%, and with petshots, your panther is like duoing with a DD your level but lets you keep all the drops and only takes 15% of the exp.
Having not player either class, but was wondering the same thing which was a more efficient leveling class? Can solo? Wanted more in Groups/Clans? etc..
I've heard that a DA is an awesome class to play, but a lot of people have been afraid to play/use hem in PVP, because Healers/Buffers now have a skill called Erase (Erases your servitor = Panther)
I feel more & more SK's will be coming out because of the new improved skills that C5 has given to that class.
If your now sure & have the time, try leveling both classes to 20 & then decide if you can, which one you enjoyed using more, at that point. (Hard because you don't get those new, exciting skills till level 40+) :(
Good luck & let me know how it works out :)
even without the panther, I think DA>Sk. Only thing a SK has on DA is lightining strike, which personally has never landed on me, and seldom lands on anyone I know. I see SK's running around with SoM's for the m.atk, well how much damage you doing in melee now? Dont get me wrong, SK is a great class, but if you want to be a "tank", go DA.