Average lvl on franz

What do you think the average lvl is on franz
im lvl 48 but i dont ever see any1 where i lvl except Mafia..lol.

If you only count peoples mains id say between 25-35.

and if u count the russians, there lvls r like 50 +

And if u count the people that DONT use 3rd party programs...

25 - 35. Lol

no, im in the US army and work mon to fri im lvl 48 SH never used 3rd party program no buff pet i just solo every day non stop when im off work every1 who knows me will say the same.

Do many people in the US army lost their lives for L2?

Heh...I've got 2 toons, a WS and a PR, that are both at 42, given the gear and the xp constraints playing legit to 48 with only one would be very possible.

I'd guess that most of the server is still about 35-40 except for the new blood still moving in.

Even if you're a WAY casual gamer to only be 25 in a month means you spent too much time trying to talk to the bot trains in the starter towns.

aka he has no life.

Monday thru friday must be nice hours for you though. 12 on 12 off 3 n 1 doesnt allow for much destress time.

I would have to agree that the average lvl is 25 - 35. Although I have spent WAY too much time lvling alts. 4 lvl 21's lol.

Average lvl 25-35? If so then i play too much.. I just hit lvl46, pretty good at the highest char i had before was 35 lol (not on franz)

avarage lvl must be less then 20 i have 6 alts lvl 1 :)

hehe avg lvl i say is higher than previously stated. Im lvl 43 and i see alot of 30+ so maybe 30-40 ish.

I have 2 lvl 4x and 1 lvl 2x. Legit.

I made a few min. ago 24 alt level 1, so the average is going to be [censored] :).
Now shut up with this average level thing, I'm still 26 and I feel gimped with all your thoughts :P :P

I made a few min. ago 24 alt level 1, so the average is going to be F+u*d up :).
Now shut up with this average level thing, I'm still 26 and I feel gimped with all your thoughts :P :P

Average deffo 35-40..

I'm closing in on 32 and that's with dying a lot (some things never change :p)

Average lvl 25-35? If so then i play too much.. I just hit lvl46, pretty good at the highest char i had before was 35 lol (not on franz)

Hihi dark ^^ Good to see you here :D

You know just playing for a few hours and then go "afk" hunting still doesnt make u a legit player even if ur able to have a conversation while running an ig 3rd party program for all u lvl 40+ guys out there.
P.S. IGE/Ebaying doesnt make u a legit player either.....

You know just playing for a few hours and then go "afk" hunting still doesnt make u a legit player even if ur able to have a conversation while running an ig 3rd party program for all u lvl 40+ guys out there.
P.S. IGE/Ebaying doesnt make u a legit player either.....

I rather resent that...just because you haven't figured out how to lvl past 7 (my advise is to stop killing elpys and move on with your life) doesn't mean that the rest of us aren't perfectly capable of leveling to 40 without cheating.

The reason I have more than one char at 40 is very simply because I couldn't afford C grade weapon with only one, and I have a hard time leveling past 46 without a C grade weapon.

The server has been up for over a month. On Lionna I could push a toon to 40 in well under a week.

Maybe I play too much...my fiance says that frequently...but maybe that's my business. If you're not to 40 yet, it's not the end of the world...this is a marathon not a sprint...but don't cop a "hey everyone but me must cheat" attitude because you're not doing as well as they are.

If he says 4x people are botters let him think that. He is obviously a noob who should be ignored... spending a month in the server and still being 2x.... a level most of us got in our first day.

yeah sure. 2 lvl 4x chars in less than 1 month since server started are both legit chars. Lost you life somewhere?

Not all of us here are 9 y.o. kids...

RE: Hasitaka and spal

Jealusy is an ugly thing.

RE: Hasitaka and spal

Jealusy is an ugly thing.

Yes it is...and yep I was 9 once...had a blast that year as I recall...

So you understand how this works:

I have 5 computers at the house...my 2 desktops; both dual display...my fiance's desktop and a laptop for each of us.

I don't need them all...I just like to have them.

Machine one and two sit right next to one another...2 keyboards, 2 mice, and much more importantly a gamepad that serves as the F1-F12 keys, with a thumb button that functions as SHIFT and another to function as CTRL.

When I leveled the PR I leveled him with a little prophet running next to him...I can use her to root/sleep heal whatever...no she's not a bot. I had more than one idiot that decided to flag on her to find out, which is why I'm to 47/3 for PvP/PK count on the PR already...root is my friend...and bots don't do that....they can't actually if you believe what farmers tell you....

The WS ran similarly with an SE...always swinging next to him...was like SS without needing to buy anything.

So actually I have 4 characters to 40+ Oh Noes!!

Day 1 & 2: 9 hours each...leveled PR/Proph to 15/14 seperately....it's faster that way.

Day 3 & 4: 4 hours on day 3...7-8 on day 4...got both to 20 and did individual class changes.

Day 5-15: averaged about 5 hours a day....ran both to 40 started but didn't finish either class change.

Day 16 or 17?: Started the WS and the SE....used the GK token and had the dwarf leech off the SE while I nuked to 15...took about 13 hours....it wasn't even a weekend...don't you wish you were self employed?

Day 17 or 18?: Finished hitting 20 with both dwarf and SE...another 8 hours. Spent 2 hours on class changes.

Then - Present: Pushed the dwarf/SE about 4-6 hours a day to 46/44 (hopefully 45 today)...and at some point played with the PR and got him to 43...he hasn't finished his class change...so I guess he's still an assassin, nor has the proph/cleric.

The WS has...I needed craft lvl 5, and the SE hasn't...so again technically SO....I dont' have the books to give him new buffs, I don't have the money for any gear besides what I'm using already anyway, and I can't get Greater Heal yet regardless. So I haven't bothered.

A lot of people spent 2-3 days finishing class changes as soon as they hit 40. I don't have a problem with that...and if I had I'd not be where I am now in terms of level probably...it's less important to me atm.

I play a lot...no doubt about it...but I don't play an insane amount...I still spend 8-12 hours at the office most days and still go to the gym for a couple hours a day...I sleep an average of 7 hours a night and I dont' have to clean my house or mow my lawn or do my laundry...so spending 4 hours doing something I enjoy isn't difficult nor does cut into my "RL"...when I have extra time to play I do, and if I don't feel the need to go to bed I don't...cool huh?

I'll take a 2-3 week break where I don't play at all here shortly since it'll be travel time in a month or so....maybe you two can catch up some then eh?

It's maybe more than you can play....that's too bad...but it's not the fault of the rest of us that you don't have friends that play enough to help you level in the cats...it's not our fault that you don't know the ideal places to lvl from point "a" to "b" based on your level and class and gear outside the cats...it's not our fault that you don't have enough time to keep up.

There's nothing wrong with being lvl 20 if you're having fun when you log on.

There is also nothing wrong with being lvl 40+ or even 48+ at this point in the game if you enjoyed playing.

Maybe you both missed the posts about the screenshot taken by a bot 4(?) days into the server's life...he was at 42.

You'll notice that Zariche has dropped repeatedly in places like the Ancient Battlegrounds and the Blazing Swamps, and DVC...sorry bud...bots aren't lvl 45...they're WAY beyond that...check out the dwarves in Giran with the top B grade for sale...if you want to point fingers at them then go for it...I don't see a viable way to get that high that fast and be legit.

Doesn't mean it's impossible..I just don't know how to do it...but you can't hit 40+?

Cry more bud.

i got through half of the post before me.... its too long and i really dont care.....
Secondly, i didnt say EVERY lvl 40 char didnt bot/****/cheat/(IGE/EBAY) or used any malicious intent to achieve lvl 40+ im just say more times than not they did.... and why would i be jealous of someone whos social life is 8+ hours at a computer playing a MMO? i mean obviousily im trying to enjoy my life. oh and i did make a new char which is a lvl 24 warrior named Kyoshi but i can put it in my signature...
also try starting a char without using dual box without having help and starting with nothing and see how u feel when ppl have c grade and -_- while u still trying to get somewhat ok d grade.

TS4DKIEL ur not an average player so your testimony doesnt count... i did the math.... and you did almost 140 hours in the matter of 18 days.... which is around 8 hours a day.... u need to get a "life" not a pixelated char on a computer screen.... go outside your house and play basketball or something...

i got through half of the post before me.... its too long and i really dont care.....
Secondly, i didnt say EVERY lvl 40 char didnt bot/****/cheat/(IGE/EBAY) or used any malicious intent to achieve lvl 40+ im just say more times than not they did.... and why would i be jealous of someone whos social life is 8+ hours at a computer playing a MMO? i mean obviousily im trying to enjoy my life. oh and i did make a new char which is a lvl 24 warrior named Kyoshi but i can put it in my signature...
also try starting a char without using dual box without having help and starting with nothing and see how u feel when ppl have c grade and -_- while u still trying to get somewhat ok d grade.

You didn't say every...you're right...see below:

You know just playing for a few hours and then go "afk" hunting still doesnt make u a legit player even if ur able to have a conversation while running an ig 3rd party program for all u lvl 40+ guys out there.
P.S. IGE/Ebaying doesnt make u a legit player either.....

The thing you'll see here is "ALL YOU 40+"

Again...you didn't say "every" you said "all"

I think we both know that's those are synonyms however...oh yea.

I never claimed to be average, and I don't like basketball...no self respecting human being would spend time dancing around bouncing a ball past age 4.

And your math stinks...101 hours give or take in 18 days.

That's 5.6 hours a day on average...which, surprisingly enough, is what I said.

yeah sure. 2 lvl 4x chars in less than 1 month since server started are both legit chars. Lost you life somewhere?

Not all of us here are 9 y.o. kids...

SO
1-20 = day 1
20-26 = day 2
26-30 = day 3

DW being powerleveled by SO

1-25 = day 4
25-30 day 5

Goal achieved. Duo set.. time to relax and play the game. No more ZOMG MUST LEVEEEEEEEEEEL. 30-40 at 1-2 lvls per day if I grinded. I pvped, farmed adena, did quests, merchanted, and you know... PLAYED THE GAME. At the moment I make 35% an hour on both characters on the duo. What does this tell you?

Keep in mind that the duo bonus gives +30% exp, and that my over hit nuke adds a 30% exp bonus on top of that. The exp per kill may be split in half between the two characters, but there is still +about 65% exp given per mob.... and that's a lot to be considered. In the time it would take you to make 1 lvl on one character, I would have earned about 1.65 levels worth of exp split between two characters... killing the exact same mobs the same amount of times within the exact same time frame. Well... maybe not the same time frame. I 1-2 shotted all the way... 3 shotting double hp mobs. The fact that I am in a duo with myself means I have unlimited buffs, hp, and mp... at the cost of playing two clients at once and spending an extra $15 a month.

I go to college and have a part time job as a concept artist ( where I make more than you in full time ). I play for a few hours a day... something anyone can do if they are willing to play at all. I admit.. I lost sleep during the first week or too.. but not so much now. I could barely afford the ports on the class quests so I walked. Took over a week to do both of them. Don't dump the fact that you are terrible at this game on me noob.

And pulling the life bomb is a lame excuse as to why you suck. Don't play a competitive game if you are going to make generic excuses. Your life is what you make of it... and I do exactly what I want to be doing... on all accounts.

its not 101 ts4dkiel its has to be more cause 5-15 u said average but most likely u spent like 9-10 hours a day then spent 1 hour for the next 2 days and anyways it doesnt matter when i said for all u lvl 40+ guys out there it meant like a warning not claiming or saying they were so u completly took my words out of context! and anyways theres no way u could possibly have dark screamer and theca in your 40s on a new server. unless...... well ebaying or someone gave u it who did ebay.

or having a bot train running around too!

lol,my life is lineage2 i admit it but this is a hardcore game this isnt a game u get on every week and lvl this is a game where u wanna play everyday to be good if you dont like the ppl who play everyday and you think its cheap just go play WoW or city of heros r something.....Scrub.

why hasnt anyone passed 50? did everyone quit the server?

We have a few that are 5x... and our enemies/ neutrals ( lol? ) do too. Those guys don't post in forums. This should tell you something.

I believe the highest is Batman ( aka Hellbat ). He has no life... and he is **** proud of it. More power to him. lvl 65 TH.

TS4DKIEL ur not an average player so your testimony doesnt count... i did the math.... and you did almost 140 hours in the matter of 18 days.... which is around 8 hours a day.... u need to get a "life" not a pixelated char on a computer screen.... go outside your house and play basketball or something...

I think you should focus more on yourself, rather than telling others how to live their lives.

its not 101 ts4dkiel its has to be more cause 5-15 u said average but most likely u spent like 9-10 hours a day then spent 1 hour for the next 2 days and anyways it doesnt matter when i said for all u lvl 40+ guys out there it meant like a warning not claiming or saying they were so u completly took my words out of context! and anyways theres no way u could possibly have dark screamer and theca in your 40s on a new server. unless...... well ebaying or someone gave u it who did ebay.

Really? You couldn't, for instance have a friend (or in my case a brother) with a BH to spoil key mats for elven jewelry..which is ridiculously cheap to make and breaks for over 100 crystals per piece?

And conveniently enough in the same area where one might find a LOT of elven jewelry key mats one might also find SoR and Mainguache blades....mightn't one craft said items and make C grade duals to break also?

I can craft a mainguache or a SoR for about 1 mil...assuming I buy a lot of the mats at sell shop price as opposed to buying them at buy shop price, if I do that it's closer to 750k. The average C grade crystal sells for 2900...I can sell mine at 2800 and make a large profit while beating the market by a fair margin...or I can sit on them overnight and sell them at 2900 which is what I usually do.

Regardless having the crystals and the cash for lux shop C by 42-43 is far from impossible....if you're sporting an emi bow and all 4 pieces of PL, with a DS for an alt weapon by 40 on a brand new server it STILL DOESN'T MEAN YOU CHEATED.

It might. It might also mean you got couple good RB drops, or it might mean that you spend a LOT of the day playing the market and not as much of the day hunting.

My issue with your remarks H. is not that there aren't people that use a 3rd party program or their deeper pockets to give them an unfair advantage over other players....there are those people.

My problem is that you assume that EVERYONE is. I'm not taking it out of context...you used an absolute. If you don't want to be quoted as using an absolute then don't to begin with.

My problem is that a growing number of people don't say, "Hello =)" anymore when they run by another player.

They say, "Bot?"

Reporting bot use has gotten to be ridiculous. I killed a party of 5 the other day, and got PM after PM about how they were all going to report me as a bot to get me banned, and continued to call me such.

Bot is fast becoming a term that's synonymous with noob, or lamer, or any of a host of internet insults. The problem is that this leads to people like you assuming that they are the only one that's playing fair, so you develop a "poor poor pitiful me" complex, and it means that if people really are reporting everyone that hinders them as a bot that the GM's will stop doing anything at all about the reports.

It's like the boy that cried wolf.

First you claim that you can't hit 40.

Now you claim that you can't have C grade gear.

You're wrong on both counts.

And as far as my game time...I don't know you...and I don't care if you think I play 18 hours a day. I also don't have any reason to lie about it because of that lack of care. When I said 4-6 hours on average what I meant was 4-6 hours. I could give you a detailed table of average kill speed and XP per mob, and the required amount of xp per level but that would mean I told you where my good hunting spots were, and it would take up too much of my day regardless.

Suffice to say that you need to be happy with YOUR play time, and YOUR enjoyment of the game. If you don't enjoy it because you level too slow then play another game...not because we want you gone, but because spending $15 a month on something that makes you angry isn't very healthy...and moreover really defeats the purpose of playing to begin with.

why hasnt anyone passed 50? did everyone quit the server?

There are several that are 50+ The problem is gear for those lvl ranges is pretty scarce still so a lot of people are creating alts or de-lvling to build their bank a little.

ooooooo chillin

TS4DKIEL why is it that you flame so much about your not a bot, if you arent you wouldent have to say that you aint, cuz then GMs wouldent have anything to proove.. so lets say you aint botting, why do you flame so much? the gms cant ban you for doing nothing illegal.. why do you flame so much then? :S:S

stop writing novel size posts and i agree with zaproom if ur "not" a bot then y do u flame? i mean its obvious y i flame cause its not the fact ur lvl 40+ but ur lvl 40+ with quality armour and goods and some times even with top equip c so only logical way is for u to have a bot running around.

i didnt say it was cheap joe3649 and the -_- i like every1 that plays this game. do u like every1 that plays the game? if so i know a person on hindemith named queenofmoms and ziggyster who might want u as thier friend noob scrub....

This is turning into a very funny thread. I know ALOT of legit players 50+ including myself and a few clannies. YES we have LIVES we only get to play at night from roughly 10-6 A.M. Now Im sick and tired of people complaining and pointing god **** fingers at other people why don't you people who this is concerning, get your nose out of other peoples business. For those of you who say its not possible to have TOP c at exactly 40, Your retarted and stop playing L2 because you obviously don't know what your talking about. Top c weps is called cata and AA system. By obtaining top grade try using your brain and farming the best drop for whatever you need it for. DO NOT try to tell me im wrong ive probably been playing for longer than 70% of you. Im done, people should grow up =) or get pked for talking [censored] =) k thanks bye.

TS4DKIEL why is it that you flame so much about your not a bot, if you arent you wouldent have to say that you aint, cuz then GMs wouldent have anything to proove.. so lets say you aint botting, why do you flame so much? the gms cant ban you for doing nothing illegal.. why do you flame so much then? :S:S

Can i be the first to lol at this?

"Your not defending yourself, so you must be a bot!"

"Your defending yourself too much, your deffinatly a bot!"

Plus I didnt see a flame anywhere in there...

We did reply to his stupidity... but the "flames" where deleted by mods <3

why hasnt anyone passed 50? did everyone quit the server?

There are several that are 50+ The problem is gear for those lvl ranges is pretty scarce still so a lot of people are creating alts or de-lvling to build their bank a little.



I'm nearly 50... And planning to hit 52 with a WS that can make me enough money for somewhat decent B grade items, i also plan to farm as much AA as i can so i'm able to upgrade my B wep.

I've Hit 48 today had a break from this char to go play an Human Mysic that i hit 30 with and of course my 24 dwarf lol :) making lots and lots of Dss.. its quite good money once you got a higher char saving mats and finding D drops to crystalise.

Well I said he was silly...not stupid ;)

Although I'm starting to have my doubts.

My posts seem to be intact for the most part...

I'm going to try to keep this short for those of you with a limited attention span....I'll try caps...maybe that will help.

I'M NOT FLAMING YOU PERSONALLY. I DON'T KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH TO BOTHER.

IF YOU'RE ENJOYING THE WAY THAT YOU PLAY THEN KEEP PLAYING.

IF THE GAME IS MORE FRUSTERATING THAN FUN THEN QUIT.

MY CONCERN IS WITH THE GENERAL CONCEPT THAT EVERYONE THAT IS DOING BETTER THAN YOU IS CHEATING. YOU SAID IT....I DIDN'T. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO CHEAT AND THAT'S REALLY TOO BAD, HOWEVER MAYBE INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW AND ARE DOING EVERYTHING PERFECT, YOU SHOULD LEARN TO BE A LITTLE MORE HUMBLE AND HAVE THE SENSE TO ASK SOMEONE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN YOU.

AT THIS POINT A LVL 67 MIGHT HAVE BEEN BOTTED. I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THAT HIGH THIS QUICK. BUT A LVL 40 IS ALMOST CASUAL "WEEKEND WARIOR" PLAY, 50 PUTS YOU AT CONSISTENT DAILY PLAY.

I DON'T HAVE TOP C. I HAVE SOME LUX SHOP C AND A LOT OF D GRADE STILL; ON ALL MY TOONS. I COULD AFFORD TOP C FOR 1 OF THEM FOR SURE, MAYBE TWO. BUT I DON'T PLAY THAT WAY....I LIKE EVERYONE TO BE AT MORE OR LESS THE SAME SPOT ON MY ACOUNTS.

Alright...I think that should do. Repetitive posts irritate me from an aesthetic point of view, but I have come to understand it's the only way to pound it in sometimes.

If you would like information on how to play the game in an intelligent and productive fashion feel free to PM me and I will try to be patient with you. I'm not by any means the best player, or the most experienced...but I have been here for a LONG time...and that's worth something.

As an update. WS was pulled out of retirement early to get PL parts so....

WS = 50 / SE = 49
PR = 41 / PP = 42 --- sieges weren't good to me

(all class changes done).

I'm nearly 50... And planning to hit 52 with a WS that can make me enough money for somewhat decent B grade items, i also plan to farm as much AA as i can so i'm able to upgrade my B wep.

I've Hit 48 today had a break from this char to go play an Human Mysic that i hit 30 with and of course my 24 dwarf lol :) making lots and lots of Dss.. its quite good money once you got a higher char saving mats and finding D drops to crystalise.

Congrats Arty =)

I'm nearly 50... And planning to hit 52 with a WS that can make me enough money for somewhat decent B grade items, i also plan to farm as much AA as i can so i'm able to upgrade my B wep.

I've Hit 48 today had a break from this char to go play an Human Mysic that i hit 30 with and of course my 24 dwarf lol :) making lots and lots of Dss.. its quite good money once you got a higher char saving mats and finding D drops to crystalise.

Congrats Arty =)



Why Thankyou very much.